Megan Devine | It's Still Okay to Not Be Okay
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There’s something big happening that few people are really talking about in a meaningful and constructive way. A sense of loss, on so many levels, even if there’s also hope and excitement. We hate talking about this stuff, but it’s so important.

Whenever I’m grappling with any kind of loss or grief, whether around a person or even just a broader sense of freedom, connection, humanity, or possibility, my go-to person is my dear friend, Megan Devine, who also happens to be today’s guest. Megan is a psychotherapist and grief advocate. She's the author of the best-selling book, It's OK that You're Not OK, and the new guided journal for grief, How to Carry What Can't Be Fixed.

Megan was on the show back in 2016, but I asked her to come back after a conversation we had about how so many of us are carrying an unacknowledged sense of loss and grief right now. I wanted to explore what that does to us, what it means for us, and how to work with it in a way that owns the reality, and also allows us to be changed, and move forward from a place of greater understanding, and maybe even lightness and grace. And, that’s what we dive into in today’s conversation.

You can find Megan at: Website | Instagram

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