Rethinking God with Tacos Podcast
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Rethinking God with Tacos is Derek Turner and Jason Clark, two guys who really like tacos discovering that God is like Jesus; that God is love and His love is better than our greatest thoughts, better than our wildest imaginings, and even better than our best biblical understanding; just two guys and some amazing guests, rethinking.
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Jan 11, 2021
Thomas Jay Oord / God Can't
Thomas Jay Oord's book, God Can’t, rethinks God’s power as a means of explaining evil.
"Given that we start with God's power…we end up giving God the kind of capabilities that make God culpable, in other words, morally responsible for not only causing but allowing bad things…I think there are good biblical reasons to object to that standard view of Gods power."
In this podcast, we talk about how God's power, his sovereignty, is best understood through the uncontrolling love of God.
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Dec 15, 2020
The Cross with Derek Turner and Jason Clark
Separation theology has been woven into nearly every teaching we have in the church. It's in how we approach scripture, personal devotion, how to approach relationship, leadership, pastoring, prophecy, evangelism… on and on the heresy of separation is the "leaven in the dough" of our faith. The delusion that God abandons his creation is a foundational lie that must be dug up.
In this first episode of season two, Jason and new host Derek Turner dive into the wonder of what Jesus revealed about our Father and humanity through the cross and resurrection.
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Sep 9, 2020
Randall Worley / Questioning My Answers
“If you can define it, you automatically have confined it as well.”
Randall Worley talks about having a “beginner’s mind,” faith while embracing mystery, pioneering and the nature of heresy, the limits of language, approaching scripture through love, and the importance of remaining curious while understanding that God is not insecure or defensive when we raise hard questions.
“If we are afraid of the answers we will never ask the hard questions.”
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Sep 3, 2020
Michael McElyea / You Love Me But You Don't Know Who I Am
You love me, but you don’t know who I am. Those are the words God spoke to Michael several years ago and it led him on a journey into measureless love, grace, and union with an always good, never leaving, no distance or separation, Triune God. With grace and joy the conversation dove into the two greatest lies on the planet, Penal Substitution and Eternal Conscious Torment.
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Aug 26, 2020
Katie Skurja / Discovering Our Humanity
In this podcast, Katie Skurja talks about discovering our humanity in the image of God, shame and behavior, grace and identity, paradox and spiritual and emotional maturity, freedom, and intrinsic authority.
Katie runs a private practice in North Plains, Oregon, has a Masters in Marriage and Family Therapy as well as a Masters of Spiritual Direction. She speaks with grace and great authority, we absolutely loved this conversation!
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Aug 19, 2020
Eric Johnson / In the Image of God
Eric Johnson, the senior pastor of Bethel Church in Redding CA, shares generously, humbly and with great insight on the goodness of God, navigating culture, Jesus and American politics, spiritual maturity, emotional health, and what it means to be alive.
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Aug 10, 2020
Amy Simmons and Krispin Mayfield / Attachment Theory and a Healthy Spirituality
Therapists Amy Simmons and Krispin Mayfield discuss attachment theory and how it intersects with our spirituality and plays out in our church culture.
The parent-child relationship and our formative years greatly influence how we navigate everything, including our spirituality and faith. Often our theological deconstructions are the fruit of discovering a God with whom we feel loved, secure, and safe; where we move from insecure to secure attachment.
Amy Simmons and Krispin Mayfield host the Attached To The Invisible PODCAST
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Aug 2, 2020
Mark and Julie Appleyard / Rethinking Church
Risk, trust, pioneering and a church built upon encounters with the transformative love of God, this podcast is an invitation to rethinking church.
From the traditional to a micro church model, Mark and Julie share their journey of pastoring.
Today, through Anothen Micro Church, they empower believers around the world to become influential spiritual leaders in their homes and communities.
For more on Anothen go to www.anothen.co
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Aug 1, 2020
Relationship Is Way Better Than Rules with Jarred Teague
This is a laughter-filled conversation about a kind God and a transformative faith.
We all have friends who walk with us and encourage and challenge us. Those people who we call when we get a revelation or breakthrough, Jarred Teague is that guy for Thomas.
Jarred grew up Baptist with loving parents. But much of his thoughts about his faith were filtered through a retributive God lens. So Jarred was faced with the intellectual disparity of a good God who would send people to hell to prove His love.
But years ago, Jarred walked away from that fractured faith and discovered the simple gospel, God is like Jesus. This has led to great freedom, transformation, and the realization that when the gospel is the love of God we can change the world.
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Jul 29, 2020
Fr. Kenneth Tanner / A Body Of Which I Am A Member
Approaching scripture, prayer, and our participation in the divine life, Father Kenneth Tanner explores a faith that beautiful in its simplicity; God really loves humanity.
Kenneth talks about a wonderfully multifaceted church. He address how to approach scripture through community with both the contemporary and historic church. “It’s an experiential relationship with the church that reveals the whole picture of Jesus and how we should read scripture,” Kenneth speaks to prayer, once again approaching the subject through community, and finally, he speaks to our divinity in Christ.
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Jul 22, 2020
A Working Theology with Sarah Floyd
With grace, Sarah Floyd shares about her working theology, the enneagram, power of story, and how rethinking God in light of his goodness has led to peace, less anxiety, and religious works. This was such a refreshing, honest, and insightful conversation highlighting how we are all on a faith journey of transformation and discovery.
Sarah Floyd is a Speech-Pathologist by trade but recognizes that she is a working theologian (just like the rest of us). She discusses how she started rethinking God, her anxiety tied to spirituality, and her working theology.
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Jul 15, 2020
Steve McVey / Beyond An Angry God
Scandalous multifaceted fathomless grace, restorative justice, redeemed identity, our union with Abba Father, and intimacy with a Triune God barely scratches the surface of this 40-minute power-packed interview with Dr. Steve McVey.
For more on Dr. Steve McVey go to www.gracewalk.org
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Jul 8, 2020
Mark Karris / Religious Refugees
Mark speaks on the disorienting faith shift so many are currently experiencing regarding their thoughts about God, the church, and ourselves.
With grace and insight, Mark addresses the PTSD symptoms of those who have been de-churched; “…those who wanted community and got judgment, who wanted to affect the life of the church and got bureaucracy, who wanted conversation and got doctrine, who wanted meaningful engagement with the world and got moral prescription. ”
This Podcast encourages those who have experienced some form of a shift in their theology and then have either felt a sense of not belonging in their home church or have even been rejected.
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Jul 1, 2020
John MacMurray / If You Look At It As A Relationship...
“This is eternal life… “ That is how John 17 starts. It is the only place in all of scripture where you’ll even get close to a direct definition of what eternal life is. And Jesus defines eternal as a relationship. My entire education had defined eternal life as believing the right ideology… All I knew was, God was better than I thought he was and there was no way I’m going back…”
In this Podcast, John MacMurray shares with humor, ease, and insight into the nature of our Triune God’s love and faithful pursuit of humanity.
Quotes”
“If God is doing his best for man all the time it just changes the landscape of how I look at life and humanity, it changes everything.”
“The Father, Son, and Spirit say, ‘well, he won’t get his nose out of John so maybe we should meet him there. The way God loves us is, if you won’t get our nose out of playboy, then He’ll meet you here…’”
“When does punishment reconcile anything? It literally has no power to reco…
Jun 24, 2020
Questions and Responses / Faith, Prayer and Leaving a Punitive God
A month ago we invited you to ask questions, you did. This podcast was our response to a handful of those questions…
In this episode, Thomas and Jason discussed their faith journeys while responding to questions regarding Judas and hell, how to navigate push back from those who think differently, how to pray without ceasing and without desperation, and finally, what core thoughts about God have we changed in the last ten years.
Both highlighted how they have moved from a punishment focused faith to a restorative focused faith. Both noted how a restorative God changes the way they interact with those who disagree and how it has affected their prayer lives. They discussed a faith in God's goodness that empowers us to navigate disappointment and highlighted the difference between empathy and compassion.
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Jun 17, 2020
Danny Silk / Unpunishable
Parenting, leadership, freedom through self-control, spiritual maturity, emotional health, the nature of our Father, and heaven and hell, Danny’s thoughts and gracious communication are empowering and transformative. It was an honor to discuss the unpunishing nature of God with Danny!
For more on Danny Silk
www.lovingonpurpose.com
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Jun 10, 2020
Brent Lokker / Experiencing God's Affection
Brent Lokker talks about a personal God, a Father who wants a relationship above all of us. Identity, how to approach scripture to encounter God, how to discover freedom from sin, brain science, and early childhood trauma, this podcast is an invitation into wholeness.
“Wholeness isn’t loving God with all our hearts, its loving God with a whole heart. That’s the great command. To be whole and love in wholeness."
Brent Lokker is the pastor of Blazing Fire Church and author of Always Loved.
You can learn more about him at www.brentlokkerministries.com
Jun 8, 2020
Brian Zahnd / Jesus Is The Interpretation
The Bible cannot be the foundation we build upon, the foundation is Jesus. Brian Zahnd talks on how to approach scripture, American Nationalism, Trump's Bible photo Op during the George Floyd protests, equality, and contemplative prayer in this brilliant and transformative Podcast.
For more on Brian Zahnd
www.brianzahnd.com
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Jun 3, 2020
C. Baxter Kruger (part 2) / Jesus Is Where God and Humanity Meet
In part 2 Baxter continues to reveal how there is no separation in the Triune God and there is no separation between us.
“The good Shepherd is good and He doesn’t do abonnement because His Father doesn’t do abandonment and neither does Holy Spirit."
Jesus has stepped into our darkness or delusion to reveal Himself. And Baxter unpacks several scriptures in John around our inclusion. Jesus prayed that we would know our union just as He knew and revealed.
Baxter also breaks down two thoughts expressed by George MacDonald’s writings
“Good souls many will one day be horrified at the things they think of God.” “God is not bound to punish sin, God is bound to destroy it.”
And of course we discuss tacos.
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Jun 3, 2020
C. Baxter Kruger (part 1) / So. The Word Became Flesh
Baxter talks about the “growing despair of good people,” a church that’s been raised on separation awakening to our union, Christ in us, the hope of glory.
“Jesus has pitched His tent in our flesh… If I didn’t believe that Jesus, Father and Holy Spirit is inside every person on the whole earth, I would not open my mouth… But we are bearing witness to something that is real.”
Jesus has stepped into our delusions, into our darkness, and that the discovery of Christ in us is the hope of glory, life, wholeness, and freedom.
In part one Baxter talks on Christ as our Creator and also shares about the willingness to approach pain so we might know God more intimately.
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May 20, 2020
John Mark McMillan / A Worship Record For Atheists
John Mark talks enneagram, songwriting, his latest record, Peopled with Dreams, and shares about a vulnerable joy he has discovered as he enters his 40’s. “Gratitude is the practice of seeing the world correctly” and John Mark shares how He rediscovered Jesus in the last several years and in so doing rediscovered his faith. He referred to this new record as a “walk back into faith” and it applies to himself but also is an invitation for all who listen to rediscover faith.
Regarding the new record, John Mark said, “I am building bridges between my friends who are atheists, my friends who are fundamentalists, my friends who consider themselves progressive or any end of the spectrum. Because gratitude is the one place we all come together.”
“You can’t be in gratitude and have a long term poor disposition towards the people who bear the image of the thing you are having this gratitude for.”
May 13, 2020
Chris Green / The Text Knows What It's Doing
Hermeneutics, pain and suffering, the sovereignty of God, brain science, Terrence Malick films, and tacos. Chris Green hits all the beats in this thought-provoking podcast.
Chris has authored several books, including most recently Surprised by God and The End is Music, both published by Cascade Press.
He and his wife, Julie, live in Lakeland with their three children.
May 6, 2020
Bill Vanderbush (part 2) / Reckless Grace
Bill talks about how COVID19 may play a role in realigning our understanding of what the church is and how the gospel has been reduced down to its purest most basic form, Jesus. Evangelism has been relegated to getting people to come to church. But it’s way better than that.
Bill spoke about this pandemic and how believers can powerfully navigate fear.
Apr 25, 2020
Bill Vanderbush (part 1) / And I Am In You...
Bill Vanderbush is a writer and brilliant communicator. In this podcast, Bill gives incredible insight into what the New Covenant looks like, our inclusion in the family through both being adopted and reborn, reckless grace, and how to navigate conflict online. (part 1)
Apr 24, 2020
Francois du Toit / Jesus Is What God Believes About You
Francois is an author most known for his current work, The Mirror Bible. In this interview, Francois talks about our Father's great affection, inclusion, grace, intimacy, ministry, and the unveiled revelation of love! He also shares some of his story and how he came to write The Mirror Bible.
The entire cosmos is the object of God’s affection! And he is not about to abandon his creation – the gift of his son is for humanity to realize their origin in him who mirrors their authentic birth – begotten not of flesh but of the Father! In this persuasion, the life of the ages echoes within the individual and announces that the days of regret and sense of lost-ness are over!
Apr 20, 2020
Derek & Sarah Turner / Jesus Is Perfect Theology
Derek and Sarah Turner, pastors of River Church Charlotte, share generously and candidly on the goodness of God, Jesus as perfect theology, reading scripture with a hermeneutic of Love, soul care, inclusion, rethinking our understanding of vengeance and wrath and the patient trusting journey into transformation.
“It’s not about the quantity of faith but the placement of faith. In John 17 Jesus prayed that we would believe that our Father loved us as much as our Father loved Him. If we put our faith in anything, let’s put it in Jesus’ prayer being answered.”
Apr 14, 2020
Fear, COVID-19 and the Enneagram
We had Karen Clark on and talked about how to navigate fear in the midst of Covid19. We discussed the three triads of the Enneagram and how knowing our Enneagram number can help us healthily navigate fear.
Karen shared that ultimately knowing the goodness of God is the foundation of navigating fear healthily; perfect love casts out fear.
Thomas, Jason, and Karen talk about some of the fear-mongering theologies that are running rampant online. When we understand who God is we understand that God didn’t send Covid19. God is not the instigator of death, He came to give us life and life more abundantly.
Finally, they discussed how God is a good Father who is available to us now in the midst of our fear. A Father who weeps with us while also lifting us up so we can see our circumstances the way He does and live in peace.
Apr 3, 2020
Mako Nagasawa / A Restorative God
Early Church Fathers, the formation of the New Testament, how to approach scripture, Starwars, Puff Daddy, The Police, and the vast difference between retributive justice and restorative justice. Mako Nagasawa’s thoughts and generous communication were insightful, hopeful and transformative.
For more on Mako Nagasawa go to Anastasiscenter.org
Apr 3, 2020
Mike Popovich / Prayer & Quantum Physics
Mike is a brilliant communicator and pastors Freedom Ministries. In this podcast we talk about prayer and oneness with God and Mike teaches us quantum physics! Mike reveals how scripture and quantum physics are not in conflict with each other. Mike then shares how to pray with confidence, especially in the scary days of the Coronavirus. He teaches us how to freely receive what we already have been given by our Father; "Everything He has is already ours!"
Quotes:
"He is a more than enough God, not just enough. He came to give us life and life more abundantly."
"The New Covenant is our Union."
Books Mike mentioned as resources.
Becoming Supernatural by Joe Dispenza
The Rise of Superman: Decoding the Science of Ultimate Human Performance by Steven Kotler
The Divine Matrix: Bridging Time, Space, Miracles and Belief by Gregg Braden
The Power of the Subconscious Mind by Joseph Murphy
You can learn more about Mike at Freedom Ministries. www.freedomministries.org
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Apr 2, 2020
Brad Jersak / High Christology
Brad discusses high Christology, the greater your focus on Christ (a theology of Christ) the wider you see Abba’s love to be.
Brad gives insight into how our early church fathers thought about God and read or interpreted scripture. He also discussed what the wrath of God means in scripture.
For more information on Brad Jersak go to:
https://bradjersak.com
Mar 25, 2020
Wm. Paul Young (part 2) / Jesus Is What God Is Like
In part 2, Paul dove into scripture and how to read it for an encounter. He highlighted that Jesus is what God is like. He also discussed how God gives us grace for today and how to live in this moment.
Some of the people Paul is reading now:
Martin Schleske: www.schleske.de
Baxter Kruger: www.perichoresis.org
Richard Rohr: www.cac.org
David Tensen: www.davidtensen.com
For more information on Wm. Paul Young go to www.wmpaulyoung.com
Mar 25, 2020
Wm. Paul Young (part 1) / Trust Is My Throughline
In part 1, Paul tells a story about the making of the Shack, his friendship with Brad Jersak and how God used their first meeting, and the filming of the shack to heal a couple who had experienced great loss.
Paul dives into the goodness of God and trust.
“Trust is my through-line”
“In religion, you don’t actually have to trust God”
Paul discussed the conference The Grand Embrace with Wm. Paul Young, Dr. Brad Jersak, Cathy AJ Hardy & Lorie Martin
For more information on Wm. Paul Young go to
Wm. Paul Young http://wmpaulyoung.com
Mar 25, 2020
Sovereign Love
What if control is a flawed word to describe God’s sovereignty? What if there is an infinitely better word, a greater revelation, love!
Jason and Thomas discuss the sovereignty of God and focus on Jason's book, God Is Not In Control. God's love is what defines His sovereignty. And God's love is revealed through the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.
The idea's that God is in control and God is good are often two opposing thoughts.
When we realize that God’s supreme power and authority are love…everything changes for the better.
Mar 25, 2020
Rethinking God, with Tacos / Brief Introduction
Rethinking God with Tacos is two guys who really like tacos discovering that God is love and His love is better than our ability to understand, better than our greatest thoughts, better than our wildest imaginings, and even better than our best biblical interpretation; just two guys and some occasional amazing guests rethinking.
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