Rethinking God with Tacos Podcast
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Rethinking God with Tacos is Jason Clark, a fella who really likes tacos discovering, with friends, that God is like Jesus; that God is love and His love is better than our greatest thoughts, better than our wildest imaginings, and even better than our best biblical understanding. Just a guy talking with amazing guests, rethinking.
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Jan 30, 2023
Robin Smit / It Is Finished
“…You are absolutely perfect in the Father's eyes! You can't become more perfect than you already are. His heart is captivated by you!” Grace, resurrection, life, the finished work of the cross, and the impact on sin, death, and sickness, this conversation is an invitation to realize and awaken to the fact that we are co-seated with Christ. Robin speaks to the love of our Father, His affection – “He has always loved us we take His breath away!” We are loved in the same way our Father loved Jesus!
This conversation also included Robin's passion for writing and her new publishing venture, The Writers Society www.thewriterssociety.online
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Jan 17, 2023
Felicia Murrell / Empathy; The Treasure of the Incarnation
“The Spirit said to me, ‘I want you to hand to me everything that you believe to be true about God and let me hand back to you everything that is true.’”
Racism, deconstruction, shame, guilt, certainty, empathy, infinite mercy, grace, healing, and other-centered, self-giving love, in this amazing conversation, Felecia and Jason visit fear and prejudice while leaning into the AND of God's always present, empathetic, reconciling love.
We don’t get to healing without Truth…(we) don’t get to healing in denial – so (we) have to own both the wound and (our) responsibility and completeness….”
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Dec 21, 2022
The Polar Express with Jason Clark
“It’s Christmas Eve, and instead of dreaming of the best day of the year, the boy is in his bedroom agonizing over the universal question: Does God…sorry, I mean Santa Claus, really exist?”
In this final podcast of 2022 and season three, Jason shares a story from his first book about the Polar Express, and faith. Whether you're tired or wide awake, full or empty, lost or found, sick or whole, you are loved by Triune God who walks beside you, will never leave you, and invites you to awaken to His affection and love. “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth, peace, and goodwill toward men!”
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
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Dec 14, 2022
Sheila & Keith Gregoire / The Good Guys & Girls Guide to Great Sex
“Biblically, sex is something that is mutual, intimate, and pleasurable for both…But in the church, we have made sex into a male entitlement, and a female obligation. And it’s really hurt us.” Sheila Gregoire.
In this conversation, the guys talked with Sheila and Keith about intimacy, sex, and God’s design for our marriages. Based on groundbreaking surveys of more than twenty-five thousand people, the Gregoires shared how our theology impacts our intimacy, the nature of our sex drives, porn addiction, and freedom, all for the purpose of helping husbands and wives discover intimacy and experience great sex! This is both an insightful and fun conversation.
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Nov 30, 2022
Jason Grimsley / Cross Stitched
“Whether I’m high or low, in heaven or hell, nothing can ever separate me from God’s love.” Jason dives into a memoir he helped his friend, baseball legend, Jason Grimsley, write. They guys talk about Jason’s wild and unbelievable life. This conversation is part storytelling, part revelation, and all testimony of the love of God.
Jason shares about several hardships he’s faced, including a botched suicide attempt and the near destruction of his marriage. The guys shared insights and wisdom for the highs and lows of life. And all along the way, they highlighted the message of the book. Cross Stitched displays the very real and present love of God and the abundant life He offers us when we surrender to Him.
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Nov 22, 2022
An Emmaus Road Deconstruction with Matthew Hester
The Kingdom within, relational intimacy, a triune God reconciling the world to Himself, faith like Abraham, hermeneutics, and an Emmaus Road Deconstruction, in this podcast, Jason talks with his friend Matthew Hester about his new book, Leaving and Finding Jesus. “Repenting is a de and reconstruction all in one,” and in this conversation, the fellas talk about an Emmaus Road walk with Jesus where He gently and definitively reveals the Cornerstone of faith, God in Christ, reconciling the world to Himself.
This was recorded for Matthews; The Kingdom Is For Everyone PODCAST. You can find more episodes from Matthew at:
Anchorfm/Thekingdom4everyone.com
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Nov 12, 2022
Brian Zahnd / When Everything's On Fire
“I felt like the Jesus I knew deserved a better Christianity than the Christianity I knew.” In this podcast, Zahnd shares about the Christian faith in alignment with Jesus and the journey he’s taken in discovering this good news! De- and reconstruction, a non-violent, non-retributive God who is reconciling the world to Himself, hermeneutics, hell, and the wonder of church deep and wide, in this conversation, the guys discuss a much richer, wider faith. The guys dive into Brian’s book, "When Everything’s on Fire,” a conversation that invites us to move beyond the crisis of faith toward the journey of reconstruction.
QUOTES
“I was having a crisis of faith but not regarding Christ… I felt like the Jesus I knew deserved a better Christianity than the Christianity I knew.”
“Christians should never say that Christianity is the absolute truth, they should say Jesus is the Truth.”
“Jesus is the only perfect theology.”
“The Bible by itself cannot sustain the pressure that is put upon it… Often, in any fundamentalist form of Protestantism, the bible become Christianity… the Bible by itself cannot sustain the pressure that is put upon it…”
“What the Bible does perfectly, and inerrantly, is point us to Jesus.”
“All scripture finds its fulfillment in Christ.”
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Sep 15, 2022
There Is No "Us or Them" at the Cross with Jason Clark
This podcast highlights Jason’s book, Leaving and finding Jesus, where he writes about his deconstructing faith journey. The book is Jason’s Emmaus Road discovery of a love that is reconciling all creation; a journey where he’s awakening to a burning heart while leaving every Jesus who won’t lay His life down for His friends.
This podcast features a message Jason gave at an icuTalks where he addresses trauma within the church. He confronts the myth of separation with the truth that absolutely nothing, not life or death, powers or authorities, not present or future, not our understandings, beliefs, systems, or actions, nothing separates us from the reconciling love of God.
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Sep 1, 2022
5Q - The Fivefold with Brandon Kelly
Derek and Jason dive into the fivefold (APEST) typology of ministry as articulated in Ephesians 4:1-1 with Brandon Kelly, the co-director at 5Qcollective. APEST stands for the Apostolic, Prophetic, Evangelistic, Shepherding, and Teaching intelligence that Jesus gifted to his body.
The guys discussed the fivefold in connection with the nature of God as non-hierarchal and inclusive, laced throughout creation and culture, reconstituted and perfectly exemplified in the life and ministry of Jesus, embedded into the very foundations of the Church, and subsequently expressed through the lives of the countless saints that make it up.
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Aug 16, 2022
Wm Paul Young / Eternal Life, The Ever Present Now
“Eternal life is not on a timeline, it is the ever-present now" Wm Paul Young, author of The Shack, talks with Lloyd and Jason Clark about eternal life, an authentic friendship with our Father where we are free to live in the ever-present now. Union, peace, grace, expectancy, trust, facing our fear, the incarnation, death, writing for the one, and stories about Pauls's friends on death row and the Shack movie, this is an authentic and vulnerable conversation.
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Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly
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Jul 30, 2022
Winn Collier / We Belong To One Another
“The natural habitat is to be enveloped in the love of God.”
The thread through all Winn Collier's work is delight in the God who exists as the blazing center of everything that is good, beautiful, and true; and you feel that in this conversation. In this podcast, Winn and Jason talk about God's hope and heart for all creation to know we belong to one another. The guys dive into wholeness, cruciform love, and what it means to be fully human.
Then Winn talks about his friendship with Eugene Peterson, writer of The Message Translation. Winn shares about the biography he recently released on Eugene's incredible life, A Burning In My Bones, and on their shared heart for pastors and the church!
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Jul 20, 2022
Faithfully Connected with Derek Turner & Jason Clark
“Faith is a seed that is to be planted firmly in the love of God." Atheism, politics, nationalism, identity, punishment, hell, evangelism, and the church, in this conversation Derek and Jason, dive into a faith that is not transactional and always relational. The guys talk about how it’s the power of kindness to change the world. This is a generous conversation between two friends who are becoming sure that God is like Jesus and always has been; two fellas rethinking what it means to be a friend of God.
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Jul 5, 2022
Leif Hetland / The Love Awakening
Leif Hetland’s profound and powerful personal testimonies bring to light what it means to be transformed by God’s love. Leif has been recognized as an ambassador of the Father’s love—an everyday person who has received divine opportunities to bring God’s light into some of the darkest places on earth.
In this conversation Leif, Mark Appleyard 7 Jason dive into Leif’s new book, The Love Awakening. Through personal stories, the guys discuss the powerful, supernatural Baptism of Love that breaks off shame, affirms identity, and reveals the unconditional love of the Father. This is a life-giving conversation around union, evangelism, and the miraculous.
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Jun 22, 2022
John Eldredge / Resilient: Restoring Your Weary Soul
The human soul has a built-in yearning for joy and beauty and all good things. But that craving for life has taken a real beating in recent years. Between false promises of ease and comfort on one side and the sheer trauma of global disease and disasters on the other, people today are facing a shortage of peace, happiness, and strength.
In this conversation, John and Jason dive into John's new book, Resilient. The guys talk about life and faith during and since the pandemic. They dive into the evidence of trauma, how to discover peace in the midst of disappointment, the dark night of the soul, de- and reconstruction, and ultimately union. This conversation reveals a path toward genuine recovery and resilience provided by Jesus himself.
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Jun 5, 2022
Justin Stumvoll / Love Is The Key
Justin Stumvoll is a speaker, teacher, and life consultant who knows the kindness of God and loves to create space for individuals to find healing so they can be their most authentic selves Just dives into Love being the key to helping folks walk through the gritty, vulnerable and real approach to transformation. This was a fast-paced conversation where the guy’s traded stories about the reconciling nature of God; they talked about punishment, self-judgment, reconciliation, justice, sin, grace, freedom from addiction, and more. This podcast is bursting with the kindness of God that transforms the world.
QUOTES
“The thing that is completely different with Jesus (as opposed to) any other religious system is that there is no hierarchy.”
“We are tormented by our disconnection to love that causes us to believe that “I am abandoned.”
“You are more than the amalgamation of the messes you’ve made.”
“People are terrified of forgiveness because it strips them of control…
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May 25, 2022
John Crowder / Trinitarian Theology
John Crowder pulls from the different streams of the church to talk about Christilogical Trinitarian theology, grace, union, contemplative practice, intimacy, and mystical Christianity. John and Jason dive into the Cross, Western atonement theories, and the religious industry built upon separation; how Jesus is healing the human race. John describes a relationship with a person, Christ. He invites us to embrace mystery so we might discover that God looks like Jesus.
QUOTES
“People are grabbing the Trinitarian Father, this gospel message…”
“I saw the connection between the church mystics and post-Azusa Street Pentecostalism, it was the presence orientation that connected these streams.”
“We’ve pulled from a lot of different streams; I could see baby Jesus in the bathwater.”
“I think there is a merger happening that we got to get a hold of, a Christological, Trinitarian theology that is contemplative in its experience and employment.”
“The biggest problem in t…
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May 12, 2022
He Calls Us Friends with Brent Lokker & Jason Clark
This conversation with Jason Clark was hosted by Brent Lokker on his youtube channel Vibrant Life. This podcast begins with two dads sharing stories about helping their children encounter God as a loving Father. The guys dive into obedience in the context of union and friendship, learning to trust the unchanging nature of our Father, not as retributive, punishing, or abandoning, but as the tenderhearted one who accepts us, loves us, and is always good!
They discussed what it looks like to live as God's friend, not as a servant. Why Jesus cried out on the cross, "My God, my God, why have your forsaken me?" Knowing and trusting the Father who was in Christ reconciling the world to himself. Dreaming with a good Father. The positive side of the deconstruction movement. Reconstructing our lives on the cornerstone of the real Jesus.
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Apr 27, 2022
Karen Swallow Prior / Life, Literature, & God
Karen Swallow Prior is a Reader, Writer, and Professor in that order, which was discussed in this conversation along with the power of language, the Word becoming flesh, the connection of imagination with logic and reason, empathy, trauma, the theodicy of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, and love being the center of our conversations. Karen also shares about getting hit by a literal bus and how she grew in her understanding that her life is in God’s hands.
QUOTES
“We express our sense of ourselves and our experience through language and even before we express it, we understand it that way.”
“Language helps us interpret our experiences…what stories we tell ourselves or what we tell other people about what happened to us. It's an interpretive frame for the rest of our lives.”
Regarding the Word became flesh: “To think about words as symbols and even that idea is also a metaphor but also literal… I can’t even understand it on a literal level but the possibilities and the…
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Apr 12, 2022
Scott Crowder / Learning To Be Present
Scott Crowder is a pastor, singer-songwriter, and one of Jason’s closest friends. The guys dive into their love for the church, about learning how to be present with God, ourselves, each other, and our community. Scott talks about creating church cultures that practice the fruits of the Spirit, learning to lead ourselves and others in seasons of joy and sorrow, that “success” isn’t about numbers, cool fads, or being 'front runners,' it’s discovered in community.
QUOTES
“'Success,’ in a word is, ‘presence.’ I don’t mean that in the school of ‘the glory cloud came.’ I mean, I can be present to you, as you are present to me, as we are present to this moment, as we can be present to where we live, and we are not stuck in a dream of an ideal community that we never can become.”
“When you’re present, you’re present to pain. When you’re present as a servant, as a leader, you’re present when you can do nothing for that person or they can do nothing for yo…
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Mar 30, 2022
Thomas Jay Oord / Open & Relational Theology
Thomas Jay Oord shares about open relational theology; how it connects with the way we live and matches our deepest intuitions. The guys talked about a relational God who is genuinely loving, looks like Jesus, and walks through each day with us, impacting and impacted by our friendship.
Thomas describes an uncontrolling, loving God, that harmonizes with scripture. In this podcast, he dives into the subjects of hell, prayer, and evangelism all through the lens of open relational theology.
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Mar 16, 2022
Daniel Grothe / The Power of Place
Daniel Grothe and the guys discuss his new book, The Power of Place, which speaks to the sense of loneliness that many feel in today's age of hypermobility and noncommittal wandering, reminding us of the ancient vow of stability and teaching us how we can lead a richer life of friendship, community, and purpose.
They also touch on the deconstruction movement within the church, how authoritarian leadership has wounded and undermined trust, and how healing and connection are available only where we practice the long game of family.
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Mar 2, 2022
Peter Hiett / What About Hell?
The goodness of God but hell, atonement but hell, reformation but hell, scripture but hell, Calvinism but hell; in this podcast Peter Hiett describes hell as “Satan's big but.”
In this conversation Peter walks us through the story of our own creation, the goodness of God’s reconciling love, the relational kindness of a God who encounters, sets free and transforms.
Peter describes a God who delights in His creation, a God destroys what is evil, creates what is good, and invites us to observe our own creation in Christ Jesus.
QUOTES
Regarding relentless love and hell “At that point I was simply saying I want to hope this is true. And they said, “you can hope it, but you can’t believe it’s possible.”
“Knowledge of evil is believing I have to justify myself.”
“It's really not very complicated at all. If you take out the middle point of (Calvinism’s) limited atonement, you're left with a beautiful picture of this God who is raising his children and creating t…
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Feb 16, 2022
Jamie & Donna Winship / Our True Identity
How to experience God, confession, faith, fear, freedom, our true identity, and cruciform, others-focused, self-emptying, unconditional love barely scratches the surface of this packed conversation on the goodness of God. Jamie and Donna Winship share how we can discover our true identity through a relationship with God and each other.
QUOTES
“So, we lose the great commandment and pick up the great commission, we’re exchanging love for conflict.” Jamie
“Most people aren’t even aware that they are living separate from who they really are.” Donna
“Your true identity is the essence of who you are at your core and it’s something to be discovered through your lifetime and worked out in relationship. You cannot set apart your identity from relationship with God and relationship with other people.” Donna
“I think it’s important to note that your identity is not your gender, not your sexual preference, not your job, not your political party, not your religion…” D…
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Jan 31, 2022
Rod Williams / Union With Distinction
Union, a Triune God, mutual indwelling others-centered love (perichoresis) approaching scripture to discover Jesus, and communion are some of the themes Rod Williams dives into. What if “all” means "all" and God isn’t distant? There is no distance, no separation in God and this conversation is a beautiful invitation to awaken to that discovery and our union with Him.
QUOTES
"To build the kingdom of God you need a clear picture of Jesus that you communicate in love."
"If you’re believing in a little stick figure Jesus that you walk on to get to the real God, you're not believing in the real Jesus, you're believing in something we manufactured to build our empires."
"Still, today you'll hear people say ‘Well God is love but God is fear,’ which comes from our Greek dualism… the reality is God is not two conflicting things. We invented conflict, God is not in conflict.”
"No one comes to the Father but by me. We make that an exclusive statement but it's not, He’s sayi…
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Jan 14, 2022
Scot McKnight / A Church Called TOV
Co-Author of A Church Called TOV, Scot McKnight talks about his new book written in response to the abuses of power, sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse within the leadership of Willow Creek, Harvest, and sadly churches of all shapes and sizes.
We talked about TOV (which means goodness) and how when we practice empathy, compassion, extending grace, putting people first, telling the truth, promoting justice, and serving others, TOV emerges in the culture and we all become more Christlike.
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Dec 28, 2021
Sexy Deconstruction? with Derek Turner & Jason Clark
Matt Chandler, pastor, and writer, recently used the phrase “a sexy fad” when describing the deconstruction movement. Derek and Jason highlight his statement to dive into the nature of their own de/ and reconstruction. They have become even more convinced that God is in the restoration business.
This podcast dives into sin, grace, reconciliation, and God's love for all His kids, the church deep and wide. Ultimately, the guys kick off season three embracing Rom 8:38-29 “For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
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Jul 22, 2021
Leaving (& Finding) Jesus with Derek Turner & Jason Clark
God’s sovereignty revealed by Jesus through cruciform, self-giving love, the nature of trust, intimacy, and union, and the transforming truth that there is no shadow of turning with God, in this podcast the guys explore Jason’s upcoming book, Leaving (& finding) Jesus.
This conversation juxtaposes an inclusive, reconciling, self-giving, unconditional view of God's love against an excluding, hierarchal, punishment-focused, conditional view of God's love.
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Jun 29, 2021
Naeem Fazal / Reimagining God
Naeem Fazal, founding pastor of Mosaic Church, and author of Ex-Muslim, talks about deconstruction or reimaging God. Naeem talks about the importance of being able to recognize God outside of our personal context, how to view sin, how to approach scripture, and a beautiful gospel that’s not just about a Jesus who saves but about a Jesus who is restoring humanity and all creation.
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Jun 22, 2021
Dale Howie / Unspoken Sermons on The Good News of Inclusion
Paraphrasing the sermons of George MacDonald, Dale Howie shares his sometimes painful, often beautiful, journey of awakening to the irreducible truth of life discovered in relationship. He speaks to grace, our common Fatherhood, our inclusion in Christ’s life, death and resurrection, our union, and the wonder of our humanity. A humble storyteller and relational theologian, Dale speaks as a father on behalf of Our Father, who loves all His children with a reconciling love.
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Jun 12, 2021
Sheila Gregoire / The Great Sex Rescue
Intimacy within marriage, the connection between intimacy and mutuality, the nature of trust, the definition of sex, addressing transactional vs relational thinking, dismantling obligation, addressing objectification and broken ideologies developed from Eph 5:22, “Wives submit to your husbands…” Sheila Gregoire practically rethinks sex so husbands and wives can experience intimacy, joy, and deeper connection.
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Jun 8, 2021
Brian McLaren / Faith After Doubt
“Christian faith, for me, is no longer a static location but a great spiritual journey…what matters most…is not where we are but where we’re going." This podcast is a gentle invitation to discover a way of faith defined by love.
Brian and Jason discuss navigating rejection, stepping away from literalism, and inerrancy in our approach to scripture and faith, and their personal journey of trusting that God is better than our best thoughts about Him.
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May 29, 2021
Awakening! with Derek Turner & Jason Clark
An infinite love, the nature of revelation, a kindness that changes our minds, the joy of our salvation discovered as we awaken to the resurrection, the risen Christ within us, in this podcast Derek and Jason discuss how all creation is awakening to the transforming certainty of sacrificial love and resurrection life.
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May 23, 2021
Kristen Du Mez / Jesus and John Wayne
Patriarchy, authoritarian rule, the nature of power and privilege in America and the Church, the deconstruction movement, Christians in politics; in this podcast, Professor and Historian Kristin Du Mez, examines the impact of perhaps the most influential subculture in this country, white evangelicalism. This conversation explores how evangelicals have stepped away from the Jesus of the Gospels, from sacrificial love. “But what was once done, can be undone.”
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May 16, 2021
Brian Simmons / The Passion Translation & the Fiery Love of God
“The bible, minus love, equals false teaching, false living, and fosters an anger in the soul of man.” Brian Simmons, author of The Passion Translation, talks about approaching scripture with a love theology, the oppressive impact of hyper literalism, women in ministry, equality, union, Jesus’ humanity inside the Trinity, the finished work of the cross, and the passionate, powerful, transforming love of God.
QUOTES
“Pauline theology will get perverted if you don’t start at the song of songs. I’m convinced that Paul got most of his doctrinal teachings from encounters with the Lord and from an open bible with Song of Songs.”
“It’s just error to hyper literalize the song of songs, it’s a beautiful symphony of love… it’s a book that literally starts with a kiss”
“We have forgotten that Jesus Christ is a human being, that inside the Trinity is a man…and this human nature of Jesus is mingled with the divine…”
“A human being can be moved with feelings…
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May 11, 2021
David Tensen / You Are Not Alone
Trauma, pain, empathy like Jesus, and healing for the oppressed, misunderstood, lost, or broken; in this podcast David Tensen shares how we are loved and not alone. Addressing how shame and condemnation are compounded by religion, the guys talked specifically about abortion and the LGBTQ community with an invitation to love like Jesus, through our union with God and reconciliation.
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May 5, 2021
Carlos Padilla / Walking In God's Power
Healing, miracles, the power of God, evangelism through the gospel of inclusion, faith, and reframing repentance, Carlos shares about his journey of discovering that the miraculous, or a transformed life, is simply about discovering God’s love and our origin and union in Him. This conversation parallels and features the content from Carlos’ first book, Roar, Walking in God’s Power without Apology.
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Apr 25, 2021
Randall Worley / Brushstrokes of Grace
“The two greatest myths that we, as humans, believe, are the myth of separation and the myth of scarcity.”
Grace, empathy, spiritual maturity, identity, destiny, purpose, and a sense of our eternal significance and worth; in this podcast, Randall Worley dives headlong into the measureless transforming and reconciling mystery of the love of God.
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Apr 19, 2021
The De/Reconstructing Parent with Sarah Turner & Karen Clark
Sarah Turner and Karen Clark take the hosting reins to share their de/reconstructing faith journey and how, primarily through parenting, they began to rethink who God is and their approach to scripture, church, and ministry.
From Harry Potter and the college years to church life - the good, the bad, and the ugly, they talk about how parenting for connection and living an honest relationship with a loving God, is the most transformative thing we can do in our lives, our kids lives, and in ministry.
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Apr 13, 2021
Addison Bevere / Saints, Becoming More Than Christians
The Bible uses the word, Christian, to describe followers of Jesus a grand total of three times. But there's another identifier that fills the pages of the New Testament--a word we've mistakenly reserved for the halo-wearing elite, losing something profound in the process. Saints.
Identity, union, searching scripture through the lens of Jesus, and holiness discovered through community, Addison brilliantly reveals that we are beloved saints.
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Apr 2, 2021
When Love Comes to Town with Derek Turner
He came and he walked beside us, He said, “I will never leave you, I will never forsake you; you are not alone, you belong.” When we discover this love, we are transformed and we begin to love as He does.
On Palm Sunday Derek speaks about the cross and how we are invited to live surrendered and sure in love. He talks about laying down our lives, loving our enemies, and seeing the kingdom come.
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Mar 28, 2021
God Is Not In Control / Sovereign Love with Jason Clark
What if control is a flawed word to describe God’s sovereignty? What if there is an infinitely better word, a greater revelation, LOVE! Through a fresh look at God’s sovereignty, Jason invites you into a transforming encounter with the love and goodness of our heavenly Father.
This is part 2 of Sovereign Love, a six-session teaching series by Jason Clark based on his book, God Is (Not) In Control. Book and teaching series are available at www.afamilystory.org
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Mar 24, 2021
Doug Crew / What Does Love Look Like Right Now?
Navigating through loss with a good God, experiencing the presence of God as a loving Father, loving our neighbor, democrat and republican, and love answering every question that aches in the heart of humanity, Doug Crew shares on these subjects and more with insight and grace. Doug is the executive leader of Shiloh Place Ministries and a good friend of the podcast.
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Mar 16, 2021
Matthew Hester / God Was Pleased To Reveal His Son IN Me
Mystery, faith, salvation and awaking to Christ’s likeness within us, adoption and sonship, being in the family, discovering the Word in scripture, and living from union, we discuss this and more with Matthew Hester in a passionate conversation around the love of God. Matthew is an author, pastor of Dominion Church (Greer SC), and founder of Hester Ministries and Present Truth Academy.
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Mar 7, 2021
Harold & Linda Eberle / The New Apostolic Reformation
Harold and Linda Eberle share about the catalytic love of God that is transforming our western understanding of the church. They speak on victorious mindsets, kingdom thinking, the myth of separation, reconciliation through the death of Jesus, and salvation through his life; plus old elephants! This is a power-packed interview full of profound insight.
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Mar 4, 2021
Dr. Caroline Leaf / Cleaning Up Your Mental Mess
Brilliant, compassionate, and empowering, world-renowned neuroscientist and best-selling author, Dr. Caroline Leaf, talks about her new book, Cleaning Up Your Mental Mess. She addresses what happens when we don’t use our minds properly. Why mind-management is the solution to cleaning up our mental mess and how the science can help us transition from being aware of toxic thoughts to catching and managing them. In other words, she teaches us how to renew our minds.
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Feb 15, 2021
Kathryn Lynn Cieniewicz / Love Is The Long Game
Salvation, justice, equality, the bible, and the unconditional transformative always good Love of God; in this insightful interview, Kathryn talks about her spiritual deconstruction and the journey of rethinking God. She brilliantly addresses the sin of certainty, newfound feminism, and a Love that casts out all fear.
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Feb 8, 2021
Christ In You with Derek Turner & Jason Clark
What if God’s love, perfectly revealed through the cross, restores all things? What if the world is already reconciled in Christ and we are simply awakening to that gospel? What if Christ is our message and we preach to awaken hearts?
Derek and Jason dive into our union in Christ and how that impacts everything from knowing our identity to loving our “enemies,” to evangelism, to navigating cross moments in our lives.
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Feb 7, 2021
Kim Honeycutt / Shame And What To Do With It
Shame is a belief that ‘I’m not good enough.’ You can’t manufacture it on your own – someone else has to give it to you. In this podcast, Physiotherapist Kim Honeycutt addresses, shame, blame the trauma of rejection. She brilliantly highlights our intrinsic worth, our identity in Christ, and the journey from rejection to acceptance.
“So much of our surrender to the Lord is (about) unlearning what key people in our lives taught us."
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Jan 31, 2021
Don Keathley / The Gospel
"The gospel is not an invitation to accept Jesus into our hearts, it’s a proclamation that Jesus has already accepted us into His heart." As a kind father, Don Keathley generously talks on the goodness of God, Jesus as perfect theology, our union, grace, our identity, how to approach scripture, and the lie of eternal conscious torment.
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Jan 23, 2021
Allen Arnold / Chaos Can't
God creates order from disorder and we have been invited to co-create with Him. In the midst of chaos, “we associate peace with answers. God associates peace with Union.” In this conversation with Allen Arnold, author of Chaos Can’t, we discuss how we create around us from what is in us; that creating with God brings order and trueness to our lives, systems, and cultures that have become untrue and disordered.
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Jan 20, 2021
Lloyd Clark / I Am Enough
In this podcast, Lloyd Clark, Jason’s dad, talks about his faith journey from behavior-focused religious striving into grace and the love of our Father; about waking up every morning in the revelation of being enough. With humor and authenticity, Lloyd talks about the finished work of the Cross, how Jesus fixed the problem of separation, and our invitation to awaken to our union.
“The whole sin conscious mindset has you waking up every morning ‘not enough.”’
“The call of God is, “Receive my Son” Derek Turner
“Everything we did and everything we built was out of insecurity because we didn’t know we were enough.”
“God never came to me with shame”
“When you’re not enough, everything you do is tainted with insecurity.”
“I know exactly what you’re going through, I know the pain. I have felt that betrayal.”
“If a kid can’t get it, it’s not the gospel.”
“Jesus fixed the problem of separation.”
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Jan 11, 2021
Thomas Jay Oord / God Can't
Thomas Jay Oord's book, God Can’t, rethinks God’s power as a means of explaining evil.
"Given that we start with God's power…we end up giving God the kind of capabilities that make God culpable, in other words, morally responsible for not only causing but allowing bad things…I think there are good biblical reasons to object to that standard view of Gods power."
In this podcast, we talk about how God's power, his sovereignty, is best understood through the uncontrolling love of God.
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Dec 15, 2020
The Cross with Derek Turner & Jason Clark
Separation theology has been woven into nearly every teaching we have in the church. It's in how we approach scripture, personal devotion, how to approach relationship, leadership, pastoring, prophecy, evangelism… on and on the heresy of separation is the "leaven in the dough" of our faith. The delusion that God abandons his creation is a foundational lie that must be dug up.
In this first episode of season two, Jason and new host Derek Turner dive into the wonder of what Jesus revealed about our Father and humanity through the cross and resurrection.
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Sep 9, 2020
Randall Worley / Questioning My Answers
“If you can define it, you automatically have confined it as well.”
Randall Worley talks about having a “beginner’s mind,” faith while embracing mystery, pioneering and the nature of heresy, the limits of language, approaching scripture through love, and the importance of remaining curious while understanding that God is not insecure or defensive when we raise hard questions.
“If we are afraid of the answers we will never ask the hard questions.”
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Sep 3, 2020
Michael McElyea / You Love Me But You Don't Know Who I Am
You love me, but you don’t know who I am. Those are the words God spoke to Michael several years ago and it led him on a journey into measureless love, grace, and union with an always good, never leaving, no distance or separation, Triune God. With grace and joy the conversation dove into the two greatest lies on the planet, Penal Substitution and Eternal Conscious Torment.
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Aug 26, 2020
Katie Skurja / Discovering Our Humanity
In this podcast, Katie Skurja talks about discovering our humanity in the image of God, shame and behavior, grace and identity, paradox and spiritual and emotional maturity, freedom, and intrinsic authority.
Katie runs a private practice in North Plains, Oregon, has a Masters in Marriage and Family Therapy as well as a Masters of Spiritual Direction. She speaks with grace and great authority, we absolutely loved this conversation!
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Aug 19, 2020
Eric Johnson / In the Image of God
Eric Johnson, the senior pastor of Bethel Church in Redding CA, shares generously, humbly and with great insight on the goodness of God, navigating culture, Jesus and American politics, spiritual maturity, emotional health, and what it means to be alive.
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Aug 10, 2020
Amy Simmons and Krispin Mayfield / Attachment Theory and a Healthy Spirituality
Therapists Amy Simmons and Krispin Mayfield discuss attachment theory and how it intersects with our spirituality and plays out in our church culture.
The parent-child relationship and our formative years greatly influence how we navigate everything, including our spirituality and faith. Often our theological deconstructions are the fruit of discovering a God with whom we feel loved, secure, and safe; where we move from insecure to secure attachment.
Amy Simmons and Krispin Mayfield host the Attached To The Invisible PODCAST
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Aug 2, 2020
Mark and Julie Appleyard / Rethinking Church
Risk, trust, pioneering and a church built upon encounters with the transformative love of God, this podcast is an invitation to rethinking church.
From the traditional to a micro church model, Mark and Julie share their journey of pastoring.
Today, through Anothen Micro Church, they empower believers around the world to become influential spiritual leaders in their homes and communities.
For more on Anothen go to www.anothen.co
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Aug 1, 2020
Relationship Is Way Better Than Rules with Jarred Teague
This is a laughter-filled conversation about a kind God and a transformative faith.
We all have friends who walk with us and encourage and challenge us. Those people who we call when we get a revelation or breakthrough, Jarred Teague is that guy for Thomas.
Jarred grew up Baptist with loving parents. But much of his thoughts about his faith were filtered through a retributive God lens. So Jarred was faced with the intellectual disparity of a good God who would send people to hell to prove His love.
But years ago, Jarred walked away from that fractured faith and discovered the simple gospel, God is like Jesus. This has led to great freedom, transformation, and the realization that when the gospel is the love of God we can change the world.
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Jul 29, 2020
Fr. Kenneth Tanner / A Body Of Which I Am A Member
Approaching scripture, prayer, and our participation in the divine life, Father Kenneth Tanner explores a faith that is beautiful in its simplicity; God really loves humanity.
Kenneth talks about a wonderfully multifaceted church. He address how to approach scripture through community with both the contemporary and historic church. “It’s an experiential relationship with the church that reveals the whole picture of Jesus and how we should read scripture.” Kenneth speaks to prayer, again approaching the subject through community, and finally, he speaks to our divinity in Christ.
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Jul 15, 2020
Steve McVey / Beyond An Angry God
Scandalous multifaceted fathomless grace, restorative justice, redeemed identity, our union with Abba Father, and intimacy with a Triune God barely scratches the surface of this 40-minute power-packed interview with Dr. Steve McVey.
For more on Dr. Steve McVey go to www.gracewalk.org
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Jul 8, 2020
Mark Karris / Religious Refugees
Mark speaks on the disorienting faith shift so many are currently experiencing regarding their thoughts about God, the church, and ourselves.
With grace and insight, Mark addresses the PTSD symptoms of those who have been de-churched; “…those who wanted community and got judgment, who wanted to affect the life of the church and got bureaucracy, who wanted conversation and got doctrine, who wanted meaningful engagement with the world and got moral prescription. ”
This Podcast encourages those who have experienced some form of a shift in their theology and then have either felt a sense of not belonging in their home church or have even been rejected.
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Jul 1, 2020
John MacMurray / If You Look At It As A Relationship...
“This is eternal life… “ That is how John 17 starts. It is the only place in all of scripture where you’ll even get close to a direct definition of what eternal life is. And Jesus defines eternal as a relationship. My entire education had defined eternal life as believing the right ideology… All I knew was, God was better than I thought he was and there was no way I’m going back…”
In this Podcast, John MacMurray shares with humor, ease, and insight into the nature of our Triune God’s love and faithful pursuit of humanity.
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“If God is doing his best for man all the time it just changes the landscape of how I look at life and humanity, it changes everything.”
“The Father, Son, and Spirit say, ‘well, he won’t get his nose out of John so maybe we should meet him there. The way God loves us is, if you won’t get our nose out of playboy, then He’ll meet you here…’”
“When does punishment reconcile anything? It literally has no power to reco…
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Jun 24, 2020
Questions and Responses / Faith, Prayer and Leaving a Punitive God
A month ago we invited you to ask questions, you did. This podcast was our response to a handful of those questions…
In this episode, Thomas and Jason discussed their faith journeys while responding to questions regarding Judas and hell, how to navigate push back from those who think differently, how to pray without ceasing and without desperation, and finally, what core thoughts about God have we changed in the last ten years.
Both highlighted how they have moved from a punishment focused faith to a restorative focused faith. Both noted how a restorative God changes the way they interact with those who disagree and how it has affected their prayer lives. They discussed a faith in God's goodness that empowers us to navigate disappointment and highlighted the difference between empathy and compassion.
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Jun 17, 2020
Danny Silk / Unpunishable
Parenting, leadership, freedom through self-control, spiritual maturity, emotional health, the nature of our Father, and heaven and hell, Danny’s thoughts and gracious communication are empowering and transformative. It was an honor to discuss the unpunishing nature of God with Danny!
For more on Danny Silk
www.lovingonpurpose.com
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Jun 10, 2020
Brent Lokker / Experiencing God's Affection
Brent Lokker talks about a personal God, a Father who wants a relationship above all of us. Identity, how to approach scripture to encounter God, how to discover freedom from sin, brain science, and early childhood trauma, this podcast is an invitation into wholeness.
“Wholeness isn’t loving God with all our hearts, its loving God with a whole heart. That’s the great command. To be whole and love in wholeness."
Brent Lokker is the pastor of Blazing Fire Church and author of Always Loved.
You can learn more about him at www.brentlokkerministries.com
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Jun 8, 2020
Brian Zahnd / Jesus Is The Interpretation
The Bible cannot be the foundation we build upon, the foundation is Jesus. Brian Zahnd talks on how to approach scripture, American Nationalism, Trump's Bible photo Op during the George Floyd protests, equality, and contemplative prayer in this brilliant and transformative Podcast.
For more on Brian Zahnd
www.brianzahnd.com
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Jun 3, 2020
C. Baxter Kruger (part 2) / Jesus Is Where God and Humanity Meet
In part 2 Baxter continues to reveal how there is no separation in the Triune God and there is no separation between us.
“The good Shepherd is good and He doesn’t do abonnement because His Father doesn’t do abandonment and neither does Holy Spirit."
Jesus has stepped into our darkness or delusion to reveal Himself. And Baxter unpacks several scriptures in John around our inclusion. Jesus prayed that we would know our union just as He knew and revealed.
Baxter also breaks down two thoughts expressed by George MacDonald’s writings
“Good souls many will one day be horrified at the things they think of God.” “God is not bound to punish sin, God is bound to destroy it.”
And of course we discuss tacos.
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Jun 3, 2020
C. Baxter Kruger (part 1) / So. The Word Became Flesh
Baxter talks about the “growing despair of good people,” a church that’s been raised on separation awakening to our union, Christ in us, the hope of glory.
“Jesus has pitched His tent in our flesh… If I didn’t believe that Jesus, Father and Holy Spirit is inside every person on the whole earth, I would not open my mouth… But we are bearing witness to something that is real.”
Jesus has stepped into our delusions, into our darkness, and that the discovery of Christ in us is the hope of glory, life, wholeness, and freedom.
In part one Baxter talks on Christ as our Creator and also shares about the willingness to approach pain so we might know God more intimately.
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May 20, 2020
John Mark McMillan / A Worship Record For Atheists
John Mark talks enneagram, songwriting, his latest record, Peopled with Dreams, and shares about a vulnerable joy he has discovered as he enters his 40’s. “Gratitude is the practice of seeing the world correctly” and John Mark shares how He rediscovered Jesus in the last several years and in so doing rediscovered his faith. He referred to this new record as a “walk back into faith” and it applies to himself but also is an invitation for all who listen to rediscover faith.
Regarding the new record, John Mark said, “I am building bridges between my friends who are atheists, my friends who are fundamentalists, my friends who consider themselves progressive or any end of the spectrum. Because gratitude is the one place we all come together.”
“You can’t be in gratitude and have a long term poor disposition towards the people who bear the image of the thing you are having this gratitude for.”
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May 13, 2020
Chris Green / The Text Knows What It's Doing
Hermeneutics, pain and suffering, the sovereignty of God, brain science, Terrence Malick films, and tacos. Chris Green hits all the beats in this thought-provoking podcast.
Chris has authored several books, including most recently Surprised by God and The End is Music, both published by Cascade Press.
He and his wife, Julie, live in Lakeland with their three children.
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May 6, 2020
Bill Vanderbush (part 2) / Reckless Grace
Bill talks about how COVID19 may play a role in realigning our understanding of what the church is and how the gospel has been reduced down to its purest most basic form, Jesus. Evangelism has been relegated to getting people to come to church. But it’s way better than that.
Bill spoke about this pandemic and how believers can powerfully navigate fear.
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Apr 25, 2020
Bill Vanderbush (part 1) / And I Am In You...
Bill Vanderbush is a writer and brilliant communicator. In this podcast, Bill gives incredible insight into what the New Covenant looks like, our inclusion in the family through both being adopted and reborn, reckless grace, and how to navigate conflict online. (part 1)
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Apr 24, 2020
Francois du Toit / Jesus Is What God Believes About You
Francois is an author most known for his current work, The Mirror Bible. In this interview, Francois talks about our Father's great affection, inclusion, grace, intimacy, ministry, and the unveiled revelation of love! He also shares some of his story and how he came to write The Mirror Bible.
The entire cosmos is the object of God’s affection! And he is not about to abandon his creation – the gift of his son is for humanity to realize their origin in him who mirrors their authentic birth – begotten not of flesh but of the Father! In this persuasion, the life of the ages echoes within the individual and announces that the days of regret and sense of lost-ness are over!
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Apr 20, 2020
Derek & Sarah Turner / Jesus Is Perfect Theology
Derek and Sarah Turner, pastors of River Church Charlotte, share generously and candidly on the goodness of God, Jesus as perfect theology, reading scripture with a hermeneutic of Love, soul care, inclusion, rethinking our understanding of vengeance and wrath and the patient trusting journey into transformation.
“It’s not about the quantity of faith but the placement of faith. In John 17 Jesus prayed that we would believe that our Father loved us as much as our Father loved Him. If we put our faith in anything, let’s put it in Jesus’ prayer being answered.”
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Apr 14, 2020
Fear, COVID-19 and the Enneagram
We had Karen Clark on and talked about how to navigate fear in the midst of Covid19. We discussed the three triads of the Enneagram and how knowing our Enneagram number can help us healthily navigate fear.
Karen shared that ultimately knowing the goodness of God is the foundation of navigating fear healthily; perfect love casts out fear.
Thomas, Jason, and Karen talk about some of the fear-mongering theologies that are running rampant online. When we understand who God is we understand that God didn’t send Covid19. God is not the instigator of death, He came to give us life and life more abundantly.
Finally, they discussed how God is a good Father who is available to us now in the midst of our fear. A Father who weeps with us while also lifting us up so we can see our circumstances the way He does and live in peace.
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Apr 3, 2020
Mako Nagasawa / A Restorative God
Early Church Fathers, the formation of the New Testament, how to approach scripture, Starwars, Puff Daddy, The Police, and the vast difference between retributive justice and restorative justice. Mako Nagasawa’s thoughts and generous communication were insightful, hopeful and transformative.
For more on Mako Nagasawa go to Anastasiscenter.org
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Apr 3, 2020
Mike Popovich / Prayer & Quantum Physics
Mike is a brilliant communicator and pastors Freedom Ministries. In this podcast we talk about prayer and oneness with God and Mike teaches us quantum physics! Mike reveals how scripture and quantum physics are not in conflict with each other. Mike then shares how to pray with confidence, especially in the scary days of the Coronavirus. He teaches us how to freely receive what we already have been given by our Father; "Everything He has is already ours!"
Quotes:
"He is a more than enough God, not just enough. He came to give us life and life more abundantly."
"The New Covenant is our Union."
Books Mike mentioned as resources.
Becoming Supernatural by Joe Dispenza
The Rise of Superman: Decoding the Science of Ultimate Human Performance by Steven Kotler
The Divine Matrix: Bridging Time, Space, Miracles and Belief by Gregg Braden
The Power of the Subconscious Mind by Joseph Murphy
You can learn more about Mike at Freedom Ministries. www.freedomministries.org
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Apr 2, 2020
Brad Jersak / High Christology
Brad discusses high Christology, the greater your focus on Christ (a theology of Christ) the wider you see Abba’s love to be.
Brad gives insight into how our early church fathers thought about God and read or interpreted scripture. He also discussed what the wrath of God means in scripture.
For more information on Brad Jersak go to:
https://bradjersak.com
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Mar 25, 2020
Wm. Paul Young (part 2) / Jesus Is What God Is Like
In part 2, Paul dove into scripture and how to read it for an encounter. He highlighted that Jesus is what God is like. He also discussed how God gives us grace for today and how to live in this moment.
Some of the people Paul is reading now:
Martin Schleske: www.schleske.de
Baxter Kruger: www.perichoresis.org
Richard Rohr: www.cac.org
David Tensen: www.davidtensen.com
For more information on Wm. Paul Young go to www.wmpaulyoung.com
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Mar 25, 2020
Wm. Paul Young (part 1) / Trust Is My Throughline
In part 1, Paul tells a story about the making of the Shack, his friendship with Brad Jersak and how God used their first meeting, and the filming of the shack to heal a couple who had experienced great loss.
Paul dives into the goodness of God and trust.
“Trust is my through-line”
“In religion, you don’t actually have to trust God”
Paul discussed the conference The Grand Embrace with Wm. Paul Young, Dr. Brad Jersak, Cathy AJ Hardy & Lorie Martin
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Wm. Paul Young http://wmpaulyoung.com
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Mar 25, 2020
Sovereign Love
What if control is a flawed word to describe God’s sovereignty? What if there is an infinitely better word, a greater revelation, love!
Jason and Thomas discuss the sovereignty of God and focus on Jason's book, God Is Not In Control. God's love is what defines His sovereignty. And God's love is revealed through the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.
The idea's that God is in control and God is good are often two opposing thoughts.
When we realize that God’s supreme power and authority are love…everything changes for the better.
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Mar 25, 2020
Rethinking God, with Tacos / Brief Introduction
Rethinking God with Tacos is two guys who really like tacos discovering that God is love and His love is better than our ability to understand, better than our greatest thoughts, better than our wildest imaginings, and even better than our best biblical interpretation; just two guys and some occasional amazing guests rethinking.
Join us.
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