OB160: Departing VFR vs. IFR
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Episode 160 Show Notes


Topic of the show: Your two favorite air traffic controllers discuss the difference between departing a non-towered airport VFR in VMC looking to pick up your IFR clearance in the air versus an IFR departure with a clearance issued on the ground.  Do you know the difference in procedures? 


Timely Feedback:

  1. 1. PATRON Sierra Bravo shares his thoughts on our ODP episode.
  2. 2. PATRON Bravo Hotel shared a link to some helpful, big picture MVA maps (not for navigation).



  1. Delta Sierra asks about climbing VFR on an IFR flight plan.
  2. PATRON Juliet Papa shares audio about circling and low weather.
  3. Sierra Bravo shares two video links to highlight runway directional lights and beacons:



  1. Foxtrot Charlie shares another reason to use the LOC for departure.
  2. PATRON Mike Echo Hotel shares her flight following story with a busy controller.
  3. Mike Zulu shares thoughts on the show and offers some advice to RH.
  4. PATRON Alpha Bravo Mike shared a circling in low weather video. See link below.
  5. Kilo Whiskey compliments our superior pronunciation skills.


Mentioned on today’s show:  MVA Maps: https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/mva_mia/mva/


Plane Tales about Israel flight: http://airlinepilotguy.com/operation-yonatan/


PATRON ABM missed on a circling approach video: https://youtu.be/df1esUDkvQA 


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