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NOT REAL ART is a creative culture talk show hosted by L.A. artists Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power.
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Sep 7, 2021
Carmen Mardonez: 2021 NOT REAL ART Grant Winner
Today, we welcome another one of our six 2021 NOT REAL ART Grant for Artists winners, the one and only Carmen Mardónez, hailing from Chile. Carmen is a fiber artist living in Los Angeles, California, whose work explores an imagery of rebellion and freedom through natural landscapes saturated with lights and colors. She employs a characteristically wild freestyle embroidery method combined with other traditional knitting techniques to create sculptural works using materials ranging from canvas to discarded objects and surfaces, such as lemon bags, old t-shirts, and more recently, castoff bed sheets and pillows. In this episode, you’ll learn about the work that Carmen has done with incarcerated women in Chile and how she was impacted by those experiences. She also shares what she loves about her home country, what it was like growing up in an ‘artsy’ family in Santiago, and her decision to be a stay-at-home mom while also pursuing a career as a professional artist. We also touch on Carmen’s approach to self-care, why she has chosen to reject her Catholic roots, and what her plans are for the future. Tune in today to learn more about 2021 NOT REAL ART Grant winner, Carmen Mardónez! Key Points From This Episode: Learn about the social justice work Carmen has done with incarcerated women in Chile. How this work changed Carmen’s perspective on the political and socioeconomic conditions in her home country. Why she feels grateful that she had the opportunity to have these eye-opening experiences. What Carmen loves about Chile, including how it is changing for the better. Hear about her upbringing in the urban center of Santiago with her eight siblings. Find out why Carmen says that she comes from a very ‘artsy’ family. How becoming a mother fueled Carmen’s rebellion against conservative laws regarding women’s reproductive health. Her decision to be a stay-at-home mom while also pursuing a career as a professional artist. The importance of prioritizing your mental health as an artist and a mother. Carmen describes her practice, particularly how she seeks to address textile waste. The tactility that comes with beginning to work in a more sculptural manner. Carmen reflects on being a prolific artist, describing her embroidery technique in more detail. Her approach to self-care; keep working, have lots of plants, and spend time on the beach. Find out why Carmen has chosen to reject her Catholic roots. Learn about the recent group show that Carmen was included in at Art Share L.A. Carmen shares some of her plans for the future and how they have been affected by COVID. For more info, visit:
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Aug 31, 2021
Inspiring Leaders to Create Legendary Brands with Gair Maxwell
Have you ever wondered how certain people and companies achieve larger-than-life status? Well, today’s guest has some theories about what legends are made of, with empirical evidence to back them up! Gair Maxwell has worked with some of the world’s most dynamic organizations, including Apple, Caterpillar, NAPA, and Virginia Tech. He has also shared conference stages with some of the world’s biggest business icons, such as Richard Branson and Gene Simmons, delivering 80 to 90 presentations every year with global representation from speaker bureaus in Canada and Mexico. A former broadcaster, Gair racked up over 10,000 interviews and more than 30,000 broadcasts in an award-winning radio and television career in his native country of Canada. Today, he is a global authority for helping organizations create iconic brands that attract legions of customers and top talent. In this episode, Gair and Sourdough bond over their mural love for Van Halen, and Gair shares some stories about the people, companies, and communities that he has encountered who were determined to change the rules and compete on their terms. You’ll learn how they are creating raving fans, attracting top talent, enjoying substantial growth, and establishing themselves as what Gair defines as a Category of One. Fundamentally, Gair believes that you can’t create a legend without a story. Deep down, you have to come to grips with your own story and truly live it! Tune in today for some poignant advice on how to do just that. Key Points From This Episode: Gair emphasizes the power of virtual technology like Zoom, LinkedIn, and YouTube. When Gair’s love for Van Halen started and why he calls them the “soundtrack of his life.” The importance of communicating through feeling in a data-driven, KPI-obsessed society. How to live up to your potential by understanding that everyone has a story to tell. Gair reflects on his career journey and his lifelong fascination with all things ‘legendary’. Why he believes that a story either happens to you or you have to make one happen. The origin of legends and how to decode their enduring appeal to create great brands. Find out how Gair got into TV and radio broadcasting in Canada in the first place. His transition from broadcasting to business; creating a story grounded in emotional truth. Why your story has to be about more than “making a buck” if you want to build a legacy. Gair highlights the value of embracing the wisdom of uncertainty. Scott explains to Gair where his pseudonym, Sourdough, comes from. Setting yourself apart as an essential component of success; the enduring value of curiosity. Why the human qualities and characteristics of someone legendary are so subjective. The importance of embracing a growth mindset; be unafraid to experiment! How Gair believes mortality intersects with legacy; how do you want to be remembered? The role that golf has played in Gair’s life and what it taught him, beyond the obvious. Learn about Gair’s upcoming book, Big Little Legends, being released in November 2021. How the COVID-19 pandemic has only increased consumers’ appetites for authenticity. Gair’s advice for big businesses struggling with authenticity: ask yourself, who are you beyond your goods and services? How Nike and Starbucks stood the test of time by being more than sneakers and coffee. Why Gair believes it isn’t metrics and logic that makes a business a success; it’s art. The importance and opportunity of “putting a human face in the digital space.” Gair reiterates the value of curiosity; how are legends created, why does it matter, and what does it mean to you? For more info, visit:
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Aug 24, 2021
Antonio + Isaac Pelayo: The Apple Doesn’t Fall Far from the Tree
When we hear the term, “it runs in the family,” it usually means some negative behavior trait, a genetic disease, or a vice but, in the Pelayo family, the main trait that runs through this family is artistic talent. If you’ve ever heard the idiom, “The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree,” today’s guests are the perfect case study for that! We are blessed today to welcome father and son, Antonio and Isaac Pelayo to the show. Antonio has witnessed Isaac growing into a successful and dynamic artist that is following in his father’s footsteps, and that is part of the story that they share in today’s episode. Antonio is an established artist, illustrator, and event producer who focuses on the Latino community of Southern California. He is also one of the last true inkers at the Walt Disney Animation Studios Ink and Paint Department. Acquiring over 100k followers on social media in the last few years, Isaac is a rising star illuminating his own path as a fine artist, creative musician, fashion visionary, and well sought after tattoo artist. In today’s conversation, Antonio and Isaac talk about their artistic legacy and how Isaac’s father inspired him as an artist by exposing him to art from an early age. We also touch on the power of social media for self-promotion, the economics of art, and how younger artists can benefit from hearing the success stories of artists who have paved the way, as well as the value of being both artist and art dealer, taking agency and advocating for yourself as an artist, and the power of learning to say ‘no’. Tune in today! Key Points From This Episode: What it’s like for Antonio to see his son earning notoriety as an artist at such a young age. Isaac shares how his father inspired him as an artist by exposing him to art from an early age. Why Isaac says that getting an early start fueled his hunger to become an artist. How Antonio set an example for Isaac rather than putting pressure on him. Find out how Antonio first got exposed to art and developed a love for drawing as a child. During his time at Walt Disney Animation Studios, Antonio shares how he discovered fine art and started building his portfolio. How social media has made it easier than ever for artists to promote their work. Some of the lessons Isaac’s dad taught him about the economics of art and making money. The pride Antonio feels about Isaac being a property owner at 24-years-old. How younger artists can benefit from hearing Antonio and Isaac’s success stories. While being conscious of your finances is hard, Isaac believes being an artist is harder. Why artists need to learn about the value of prioritizing their finances. What Rich Dad Poor Dad taught Isaac about mindset and working for himself. Isaac shares his primary source of revenue and how he is both artist and his own art dealer. What Antonio taught Isaac about not giving away his work for free; how it devalues the work. The importance of taking agency and advocating for yourself as an artist. Isaac highlights the power of learning to say ‘no’; respect your energy. How Isaac tries to steer away from desperation and losing sight of his own value. Work as a form of meditation, as well as the power of taking care of your body. Isaac tells his father what he loves about his art: the extraordinary level of detail. Antonio shares something he loves about Isaac’s art: the work that comes from the heart. Isaac emphasizes the incredible relationship he has had with both his parents. For more info, visit:
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Aug 17, 2021
John Chang: 2021 NOT REAL ART Grant for Winners
Today’s guest on the Not Real Art Podcast is John Chang, one of our six 2021 Not Real Art Grant winners. John is a Chinese-American multidisciplinary artist from Shanghai who considers himself a spiritual escapist. His work is rich and deep, layering language and image to construct and reconstruct meaning, memory, and intention. In this episode, John shares his process of searching for new meanings in a new world, one where it has become increasingly important for artists to embrace digital mediums and utilize the power of art to facilitate empathy. In the wake of COVID-19 and waves of racially motivated violence against Black and Asian people of color in the US, John emphasizes the importance of communication and creating work that is open to interpretation, as well as how he reconstructs memory and meaning through collage using found materials such as newspapers. He also speaks candidly about the challenges he has faced since emigrating to the US, from cultural and physical homelessness to xenophobia, and he shares the core message he hopes viewers take away from his work: his story and how it relates to their own. To learn more about John Chang, how he makes and unmakes meaning, experience, and history, and his attempts to communicate the newfound perceptions he gains through his creative process, tune in today! Key Points From This Episode: An introduction to John Chang and his practice, including his commercial career. Why John believes that it is important for artists to embrace digital tools like Photoshop. Why formally trained or “traditional” artists are sometimes resistant to digital mediums. The learning curve that comes with embracing digital tools and committing to the craft. How much time John spends creating work on his computer versus in his studio. Find out how his practice has been affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. Hear about the work John created to address racially motivated violence in the US. John emphasizes the power of art for communication, expression, and understanding. The value of allowing viewers to create their own interpretations of your work. John shares his process of constructing and reconstructing meaning through collage. Learn about John’s background, how he discovered art as a child, and the difficulty he encountered when he emigrated to the US. What he means when he describes himself as “culturally homeless” or a “spiritual escapist.” How learning and memorizing Chinese characters has informed his work. John shares his experience of returning to China as a contemporary artist and the recent explosion of contemporary art galleries there. Sourdough and John discuss the current political situation in Hong Kong. Hear how John’s creative output has been impacted by the pandemic. His experience of xenophobia in the US, both during and after Trump’s time in office. One core message John hopes viewers take from his current body of work: his story. Learn more about his artistic process and how his artworks reveal themselves to him. How technology both positively and negatively impacts human connection. For more information, visit: https://notrealart.com/john-chang
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Aug 10, 2021
Natalia Villanueva Linares: Winner of the 2021 NOT REAL ART Grant for Artists
Today’s guest is the amazing Natalia Villanueva Linares, one of our 2021 NRA grant winners! Natalia hails from Peru and France and is now residing in Chicago. She is an installation and performance artist specializing in space understanding. Our conversation begins with Natalia describing a decade long-project she has been working on involving revamping a church in Illinois and making it a cultural center hosting community artworks and an international residency program. From there we hear more about Natalia’s work and what her concerns with space understanding mean, where she talks about how she tries to connect people, spaces, culture, and history through her multimedia artworks. We also hear about another of Natalia’s powerful and sublime works today, a traveling participatory performance piece called Soulutions, where she collaboratively creates healing potions with audiences around the world. In this conversation, we also get into Natalia’s self-care practices involving her love of colorful foods, the different energies her parents bring into her process, and her thoughts on the inclusivity and transparency of the NRA family. Be sure to catch this one! Key Points From This Episode: Natalia’s gratitude for winning the NRA grant and her experiences applying for past grants. The community art project Natalia curated centering around a church she bought in Chicago. Challenges of funding and sustaining the project leading to the church exchanging hands. Nadia talks about how her work deals with ‘space understanding’; connecting people and space. Perspectives on the unseen aspects of artworks being what makes them powerful. The meaning of the relationship between effort and simplicity in a work’s effect on people for Natalia. Natalia’s perspectives on mass production in art and the role of art more generally. Making potions to heal ‘the uncurable’: Natalia weighs in on her Soulutions project. Natalia’s extremely productive nature and how the pandemic has shifted her into a more focused mode. Natalia’s methods for taking care of herself and love for eating colorful, nutritious food. The early experiences Nadia had of her artistic voice and when she found it fully later in life. How Natalia’s parents met and the role each of them plays in her creative process. Sourdough’s experiences in Peru while he was traveling as a 25-year-old. Natalia’s experiences in the NRA selection process and Sourdough’s intentions for the project. For more information, visit: https://notrealart.com/natalia-villanueva-linares
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Aug 3, 2021
Nadyia Duff: Winner of the 2021 NOT REAL ART Grant for Artists
In today’s episode, we feature one of our six 2021 NRA grant-winners, Nadyia Duff! Nadyia is a Jamaican-American artist who hails from Miami Beach, Florida. Nadyia's portraiture work, like her personality, exudes passion, energy, love, joy, and style. In our conversation with Nadyia, we talk to her about her portraiture style depicting detailed subjects against simplified, cartoonish backgrounds and how it evolved. She gets into the bright colors she uses and the way they connect to her Jamaican heritage. Nadyia has also had her fair share of struggles and we hear about health scares she had as a child and how they influenced her course of studies. On top of being a brilliant artist, Nadyia is also an art educator, and we speak to her about the current state of art education and what she is witnessing while hanging out with the younger generations in a creative context. Wrapping up, Nadyia speaks to the experience of being an artist, sharing the things that she truly values about the process and the lessons she has learned that she would share with her younger self. Here’s to a world filled with more of Nadyia's incredible portraits! Key Points From This Episode: The focus of Nadyia’s podcast; creatively lamenting inventions like time and money. Slowing time down through meditation and how Nadyia meditates with tinnitus. Nadyia’s creative routine and how she balances art-making with being an art teacher. The subjects of Nadyia’s paintings and where she finds the models that she draws. How Nadyia got into painting and how her style has evolved into its current form. Nadyia’s path of education which began with medicine but transitioned into art education. How Nadyia’s Jamaican heritage plays into the art she makes through the colors she uses. The current state of art education; state support and conversations in the classroom. What makes Nadyia excited about the younger generations she is teaching. The issue of there being no pacing guides that regulate the teaching of art in stages. Obsessions with realism and how the artist in kids is being squeezed out of them. Advice from Nadyia about how to be an artist and what to value about the process. Why Nadyia is not a fan of commissions and prefers to make art for its own sake. The process of choosing NRA grant-winners and what is in store for Nadyia. Where to find Nadyia online and see more of her beautiful work. For more information, visit: https://notrealart.com/nadyia-duff
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Jul 27, 2021
Columbia College Chicago Alumni Director Sarah Schroder
In today’s episode of the Not Real Art Podcast, we discuss higher education in the creative arts, specifically when it comes to Sourdough’s alma mater, Columbia College Chicago, where he graduated in 1994 with a double major in graphic design and arts management. Joining us is Sarah Schroeder, Director of Alumni Relations for Columbia College here on the West Coast. We discuss our shared love for Columbia College and how the institution can benefit anyone who is serious about a career in the creative arts, whether they are looking to pursue work in visual art, graphic design, fashion design, performance art, dance, theatre, comedy, digital design, gaming, AR, VR, creative writing, storytelling, filmmaking, production, or radio; you name it! If you are a creative or aspiring to be one, Columbia College Chicago is a great place to learn and master your craft. Just ask any one of the internationally acclaimed people who have attended classes at Columbia College, including countless Emmy Award winners and nominees, SNL cast member, Aidy Bryant, and hip hop legends, Kanye West and Common, not to mention the accomplished professionals behind the scenes in production, editing, and design. We have no doubt you will learn, grow, and be inspired by today’s show, so make sure not to miss it! Key Points From This Episode: An introduction to Sarah, her qualification from Columbia College, and her career trajectory. How she ended up becoming the Director of Alumni Relations for Columbia College. What Sarah finds so meaningful and rewarding about her role; seeing how alumni grow. What Columbia imparts to graduates as they embark on careers in creative industries. The value of being taught by working professionals in the field. Why it is important to prepare students for real world challenges in the creative arts. Sarah weighs in on whether or not an MFA is worth the money, given the rising costs of tertiary education in the creative arts. The valuable networking opportunities that Columbia offers its students and alumni. Who, in Sarah’s opinion, are the most famous people to have attended Columbia College. Why you should choose Columbia over other colleges; the expansive creative curriculum. Some of the other benefits of choosing Columbia, including the city of Chicago itself. How the programming has evolved at Columbia since Sourdough graduated in the 90s. How Columbia has embraced technology and digital, including video games. The benefits of “jumping right into your major” and starting to create right away. Learn about some of the resources that Columbia offers its students, such as the student-led urban arts festival, Manifest. With Manifest going virtual thanks to COVID-19, visitors can enjoy it in their own time. Find out how Columbia adapted and managed to pivot quickly during COVID. Sarah reflects on how the creative output of students will be influenced by the pandemic. Sarah and Sourdough discuss the role that artists play in creating the culture of the future. Being a creative versus an artist; why the term ‘creative’ is more inclusive. The importance of training students to solve problems in creative ways, not just the technical aspects of being an artist in the traditional sense. Sourdough emphasizes the importance of nurturing and encouraging creativity. Sarah shares what she is working on, including a new alumni orientation for the classes of 2020 and 2021. For more information, visit: https://notrealart.com/columbia-college-chicago
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Jul 13, 2021
Roy Miles & Life as the ‘Ghetto Gepetto’
Today on the show we have the one and only Roy Miles, a true Swiss Army Knife of an artist with a seemingly never-ending set of skills. For those in the back who have not heard of Roy, he is a puppeteer, musician, filmmaker, designer, and the list goes on. Roy, AKA the Ghetto Gepetto, is the creator of the Biddies toys as well as the YouTube channel Hoodfoot, a central hub where his multitude of talents come together in one place through the medium of film. Roy joins us on the show today to shoot the breeze with Sourdough, touching on work, family, the pandemic, cryptocurrency, and everything in between. We hear about the attitude of constant learning Roy applies to his work and how he is constantly trying to expand the items in his toolkit. He talks about his filmmaking process, sketching out his method for assembling ideas into multimedia sketches combining stop motion, cartoons, performance, music, and more. Roy shares his ideas about NFTs, the plight of the artist, and what it means to be a good father, husband, and all-around human. We also get into the different artists he has worked with and how he likes to involve a crew of trusted friends in the many projects he works on. Tune in and join in with us as Roy blesses us with his intelligence and creativity. Key Points From This Episode: Roy’s recent health scares and how he is changing his lifestyle as a result. What life as a dad is like for Roy and how he spent Father’s Day. Projects going down in Roy’s studio and his approach to building his YouTube channel. The constant learning Roy is always applying and how it has expanded his toolkit. Roy's approach to making content for social media shorts. The magic that happened in Ray Harryhausen’s garage and how he has influenced Roy. The nuts and bolts of making stop motions out of a garage and how much is possible. Roy’s thoughts on NFTs and the ethics around this apparent revolution. The double-edged sword of being an independent artist; jobs offering little pay. Lessons learned about the importance of family through the pandemic. How COVID thwarted Roy’s plans and the new creative process he developed as he pivoted. The collaborative approach Roy uses and how he likes to draw on his contemporaries’ skills. Roy’s love for and involvement in music and how it factors into the work he does. Discussing a possible Hoodfoot podcast and a few NRA shows hosted by Roy. The story of how Roy married his high school sweetheart and the contours of their relationship. A bunch of stories about Roy and Sourdough’s experiences in liquor stores. Roy’s method of jotting ideas down and how software aids the creative process. Being helpful and why Roy’s life philosophy revolves around being nice. For more information, visit: https://notrealart.com/roy-miles
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Jul 6, 2021
Why Art Is Important: According to the 2021 Not Real Art Grant Applicants
Today’s show is all about why art is important. If you’re listening to this podcast, you probably believe, as we do, that art, creativity, and artists are essential to making this world a better and more interesting place. Because art is subjective, why art is important differs according to personal opinion. That is why today’s episode includes the voices of 18 different artists, who each share their thoughts on why we need art in our lives. Who are these 18 artists, you ask? Well, many of you know that we have an artist’s grant in partnership with Art Share L.A., the Not Real Art Grant. We have awarded $2,000 to six artists annually for the last three years and, in 2021, we saw a 485 percent increase in applications. That means 827 artists applied! This episode is dedicated to 18 of those applicants, who left audio messages about why they believe art matters. Tune in to hear their perspectives. Key Points From This Episode: Noa from Toronto believes that art is important because life would be boring otherwise. Sienna Castro from New Orleans believes art is akin to a vital need like food; it sustains us. Find out why Ana Rendich believes art helps us see the unlimited power of the human mind. Liesel believes that it’s impossible to differentiate life from art, because art is life is art. After seeing an amazing art installation, Alex Butler shares why she believes we need artists to make life less shitty. Why Fossa Luisuno from LA believes the quest to create is driven by higher consciousness. Amy McCormick is fed by art in the same way she is fed by nature; she can’t live without it. XXX, a printmaker from Salem, Oregon, uses art to reach out and touch the minds of others. Courtney Lamb from LA sees art as a reminder that we are currently experiencing life. Jay Soreseen from South Florida explains how the things that make us human are easier to understand because of art. Debõrah Hughes from Atlanta views art as her therapy, her outlet, and her legacy. Kim Kine from LA believes art is a language that can communicate with all people. For more information, visit: https://notrealart.com/why-art-is-important Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Not Real Art Grant — Man One — Man One on Twitter — Scott “Sourdough” Power — Not Real Art Conference — Not Real Art on Instagram —
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Jul 1, 2021
2021 NOT REAL ART Grant for Artists: Announcing The Winners
Today's episode is especially exciting because we are announcing our 2021 grant winners. We are so grateful to every artist that entered, and the quality of work we saw truly blew us away. Of course, we would have wanted to give money to all of you, but the sad reality is that it is just not possible. We shed light on what the selection process looked like this year, and we also give you insights into who some of our esteemed judges were. Before announcing the finalists and the winners, we thought it only fair to pay our respects to winners of years past. Tune in to hear it all! For more information: Key Points From This Episode: There was so much interest in the NRA Grant this year. How the NRA Grant differs from most other art grants. Insights into this year’s rigorous selection process and the different rounds. There was such a wide range of talent that entered this year. Hear about who some of the judges for the grant were. The ten finalists and the six final grant winners. Shout out to the previous grant winners for paving the way. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Not Real Art on Instagram — NRA Grant — Not Real Art — Not Real Art School — Erin Yoshi — Man One — Man One on Twitter — Scott “Sourdough” Power —
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Jul 1, 2021
NRA 2021 Grant Winners
Today's episode is especially exciting because we are announcing our 2021 grant winners. We are so grateful to every artist that entered, and the quality of work we saw truly blew us away. Of course, we would have wanted to give money to all of you, but the sad reality is that it is just not possible. We shed light on what the selection process looked like this year, and we also give you insights into who some of our esteemed judges were. Before announcing the finalists and the winners, we thought it only fair to pay our respects to winners of years past. Tune in to hear it all! Key Points From This Episode: There was so much interest in the NRA Grant this year. How the NRA Grant differs from most other art grants. Insights into this year’s rigorous selection process and the different rounds. There was such a wide range of talent that entered this year. Hear about who some of the judges for the grant were. The ten finalists and the six final grant winners. Shout out to the previo…
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Jun 29, 2021
Vyal One: O.G. L.A Muralist
Standing out in the crowded L. A graffiti scene is no easy feat, but it is something today's guest, Vyal One, has managed to do. He is a muralist from East L.A with over 25 years of experience creating aerosol murals and is one of the graffiti movement's most skilled aerosol painters. His work has taken him across the globe, and his portfolio includes a range of corporate commissions. In this episode, we hear about Vyal's creative journey and how he became a muralist. He pays respect to his early influences and shares when he was introduced to graffiti as an art form. Not interested in mainstream art, he finally saw a place for himself, where he could be who he wanted creatively. We also hear about some of his favorite memories from being abroad, including his time in Barcelona and Berlin. Our conversation also touches on where Vyal gets his inspiration from, the importance of staying connected to the youth as an experienced muralist, and the many unspoken rules and conventions in the…
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Jun 16, 2021
Expanding the Civic Engagement Conversation with Michelle Woo
Art has always been about stretching people’s imaginations and creating spaces for expansive thinking. For Freedoms is an art-led civic organization that creates art and sparks conversations around what expanded civic participation looks like. Michelle Woo is the Director of For Freedoms and is also a creative producer and artist based in L.A. Her diverse range of work includes cultural strategy, creation, project management, and management of national campaigns. In today’s episode, Michelle sheds light on her artistic journey and how she got to where she is in her career. We talk about the skills that artists need, beyond their talents, to succeed creatively. Michelle then shares the impetus for founding For Freedoms and how it has grown from its humble origins. In an increasingly divisive and polarized political landscape, artists must give nuance to conversations to broaden perspectives and allow spaces for bridges to be built rather than burnt. We hear about some of the incredi…
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Jun 8, 2021
Brett Cook: The Practice of Building Community
Many people view art as transformative in and of itself. But what about the process of making art? Can that not also be a tool for transformation? Brett Cook is a multi-disciplinary artist who uses storytelling to distill complex ideas and creative practices to transform the inner and outer worlds of being. He has taught at all academic levels and has used his pedagogical knowledge to leverage the transformational power of the relational aspect of art-making. In today’s episode, Brett shares his artistic journey, from drawing in the church at the age of two to having a legendary open studio in New York. We talk about how his community practice has transformed over the years, and we hear about how he views it now. As someone who has established himself in both the fine art and grassroots art worlds, Brett is passionate about flattening the hierarchies that stand in the way of so many artists’ success. He sheds light on the work he is doing as an administrator to bridge these divides…
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Jun 1, 2021
Anthem Salgado: Masterclass in Marketing and Communications with Erin Yoshi
The importance of the business aspect of being an artist cannot be underestimated. This side of the trade is an art in its own right and requires some training to master. Today on the show we are joined by Anthem Salgado where he shares his expertise on all the strategies that we as artists should be using to sell ourselves and connect to our audience. Anthem is the founder of Art of Hustle where he offers expert business coaching for marketing and communications. Anthem tells the story of his journey as a multidisciplinary artist into the field of marketing and communications and how he started offering consultation and training to artists and agencies who engaged in his services. We then hear some of Anthem's top tips for artists such as getting clear on your story before your delivery, how to build trust, how to think like a business owner and not an employee, and which part of your sales funnel to focus on first. Anthem also gets into some of the essential tools he uses in his trai…
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May 25, 2021
Toons One 44: Recognizing and Supporting Arts and Culture in Southern California
When you think of some of the most culturally diverse and renowned cities on earth, they all have one thing in common: art. From local galleries to life-size murals, a community full of art is a community full of culture. That’s why supporting the arts in your local community is a crucial part of building a legacy, exposing artists to bigger platforms, and providing them with greater opportunities. Today’s guest inherently understands the importance of celebrating creativity and educating and inspiring others, as he himself has been active on the scene for nearly 30 years. In the house today, we have the one and only Toons One, international artist, style writer, custom painter, fineline pinstriper, and original graffiti artist since 1982, right here in Los Angeles. Naturally gifted with a broad observation of the cultural landscape of the world in which we live, Toons’ creations embody a rich imagination and a soulful interpretation of everyday life. In today’s episode, he sha…
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May 18, 2021
ShowzArt: Elevating the Unsheltered Community in Skid Row
One of the most important purposes of art is to shed light on issues and people that may not always be in the spotlight. Artists spark conversations and are foundational pillars in many social justice movements. Showzart, the Art Jedi, is a muralist, community organizer, and resident of Skid Row. He works tirelessly to elevate the Skid Row unsheltered community. In this episode, we hear more about Showz’s journey and how he came to be a prominent artistic voice in this L.A neighborhood. He shares how he went from keeping his art dream at arm’s length to trusting his universal calling and following his dreams. Showz understands his purpose as an artist; it is not about money or fame, but rather to be a conduit for so many important causes. We talk about the power of love and energy, the magic that comes when you follow your calling, and the joy in being aligned with your purpose. We also discuss homelessness and the importance of shifting our perceptions around unsheltered and unhou…
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May 11, 2021
Sand Hill Artists Collective with Bob Ware and Louise Glickman
The Asheville art scene is on fire, and the city is well-known for its support of artists and creators of all kinds. Joining us today from the heart of the Southeast art world are Bob Ware and Louise Glickman, of Sand Hill Artists Collective (SHAC), a group that looks to support the art community on the far West side of Asheville. In this episode, we hear about the history of the city, and what drew Bob and Louise to live there. Having both worked as artists, Bob and Louise understand what it is like to struggle to put yourself out there, and, as such, they hope to create supportive communities where everyone can share knowledge and experiences. We talk about gentrification in the city, how it is relatively unaffected by climate change, and its deep relationship with storytelling. Bob and Louise also share the incredible work SHAC has managed to do in just over a year and how marrying the digital and art worlds spans boundaries and creates infinite connections. We are so grateful that…
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May 4, 2021
MonaLisa Whitaker On The Magic of Connection
If you are looking to learn, grow, and be inspired, then today’s show is for you. MonaLisa Whitaker is our guest today, and her warmth, dedication, and brilliance are all infectious. MonaLisa is a photographer and mixed media artist with an enviable resume and decades of experience. In our conversation today, MonaLisa talks about her work in the Inglewood art community and the advocacy she has been involved within the rapidly gentrifying neighborhood. We hear about her start in photography, where she shares her passion for analog and the value she believes it offers all budding photographers. MonaLisa also talks about why she has chosen to explore the individual connection to the divine in her work. Through having her own children and learning about religions of all kinds, MonaLisa came to realize how similar many religious beliefs are and how they have been pitted up against one another despite their commonalities. We also chat about the magic that exists in the world, how artists c…
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Apr 27, 2021
Stephen Levey: Monkey Pushing A Button?
Today’s guest is the inspirational photographer and documentarian, fifth generation Angelino, and all-round good guy, Steven Levey. Steven joins us on the show to talk about his views on art, his recent foray into cooking, how he happened into professional photography, and why he mainly just wants to be a good person. We kick the show off hearing about how Steven ‘discovered his kitchen’ after COVID struck and the fun he is having making delicious meals for himself. Sourdough calls Steven the true mayor of LA and we hear about the long connection his family has had with the city next. Steven talks about how he has documented his connection to LA and this springboards a discussion on his relationship with photography. He tells the story of how he ended up exhibiting his photographs in a fine art show after documenting a street art event. We then hear why he doesn’t consider himself an artist and why has chosen the iPhone as his camera of choice. Toward the end of our discussion,…
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Apr 20, 2021
Dolby Atmos with Ellis Reid
If you are old enough to remember cassettes, you will remember the Dolby noise reduction switch on them. This humble beginning was the foundation for an incredibly innovative company that has since branched off into creating immersive audio and visual entertainment experiences. Ellis Reid, a Senior Industry Marketing Manager at Dolby, helps people understand what the brand means in today's world. In this episode, Ellis walks us through Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos and how they take entertainment to a whole new level. He shares some examples of how this technology has been deployed, and how it has changed the game completely. We talk about movies, sport, music, gaming, and even podcasts. There is no entertainment stone left unturned. Ellis also discusses the importance of making this technology accessible to creatives because this is where it will truly shine. With the growth in digitization of art and music production, the next big creatives are probably producing from their bedrooms,…
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Apr 13, 2021
Greg Escalante: Happy Birthday!
Some people are extraordinarily unique and change the game completely. Greg Escalante was a bona fide maverick and trailblazer, carving out a space where so many of us could feel at home. Juxtapoz Magazine, the publication Greg co-founded, is still a leading work in the alternative and underground art space. Greg's legacy is about far more than the magazine; it is about the community he built and the lives he touched. Not only did he provide unconditional support to so many artists early in their careers, but he quite literally changed so many people's lives. In this incredibly special episode, filmmaker, Hans Fjellestad, Greg's gallery director, Wendy Sherman, and PR powerhouse, Heidi Johnson join Sourdough to reflect on Greg's life. During the show, you will hear tributes from many of the artists who were impacted by Greg, including Robert Williams, Shag, Shepard Fairy, Elizabeth McGrath, and Chaz Bojórquez, to name just a few. Heidi and Wendy also share some of their fondest memori…
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Apr 6, 2021
NFT x Lora Zombie: Case Study with Tom Rowlandson + Joshua Wattles
Three letters are dominating the art world right now, N-F-T. They stand for ‘non-fungible token’, which is represented as a unit of data, typically on the Ethereum blockchain. So how does this affect artists around the world? It returns the power to them. In today’s episode, we speak with intellectual property attorney Joshua Wattles, and former DeviantArt staff member, Tom Rowlandson. Together, they explain the ins and outs of NFTs, and why it’s such a hot topic right now. To kick things off, Tom shares his own experiences with NFTs, as he details his background in crypto as well as instances where he has bought and sold NFTs on the blockchain. Following this, Josh explains the NFT paradigm shift with artists and tells us what sets these digital tokens apart from standard IP. We then take a deep dive into what makes NFTs appealing to so many people, as we learn that factors like insurance and maintaining the item’s condition all play a role in the buyer’s decision making.…
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Mar 31, 2021
Channing Dungey Takes-Two on the Entertainment Industry with Erin Yoshi
Making a break in the entertainment industry takes hard work, careful attention, and a strong vision. Today we speak with a woman who achieved great heights in film and television. Channing Dungey is a TV executive and the first black American president of a major broadcast television network. In this rich and inspiring episode, we talk with Channing about her journey to the top and beyond. We open the show by hearing about her earliest years, as she tells listeners about how she has always been enchanted by stories. After graduating from the , Channing pursued a career in the industry. In the years that followed, she became a path maker and mold-breaker as she steadily climbed the ranks. We ask Channing how she made her way into television, as she touches on the ebbs and flows of the film industry of the early 2000s, and why she connected with the TV medium. Diving into deeper detail, Channing shares some of the attributes that make a good television show, noting emotional connection…
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Mar 30, 2021
Judy Baca on Public Arts and Murals
Muralism is empowering, uplifting, and can be a megaphone to celebrate ethnicity. Judy Baca has been creating public art for decades and has produced over 400 murals while employing thousands of local participants to be part of Los Angeles’ social and artistic evolution. Her efforts are embodied by the Social Public Art Resource Center or SPARC. In this episode, we talk to Judy about her life in public arts and how SPARC has been such a large part of her journey. We begin our conversation by talking about what it was like to be in Los Angeles, as the former public art capital of the world. Judy chats about city bureaucracy and that there was little control over who could paint what and where. Following this, Judy introduces listeners to the permitting process which has plagued public mural art progress since its introduction. Yet, by this stage, murals had already left a huge impact on society, as various minorities and ethnic groups residing in L.A were now being represented. Later…
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Mar 23, 2021
Muralist Roundtable: Gloria Muriel, Amanda Lynn + Mariella Aras with Erin Yoshi
Welcome to episode 117 of the Not Real Art Podcast. In today’s show, host Erin Yoshi is joined by three more exceptional artists, Gloria Muriel, Amanda Lynn, and Mariella Ajras. These women are among the most influential and talented muralists around, and in today’s show, they share their stories, inspirations, and advice. We kick things off by hearing the origin story of each artist, as we find out Gloria’s shy beginnings, Amanda’s illustrative linework and decorative patterns, and Mariela’s focus on women and collective memory. Following this, our roundtable discussion touches on fundamental aspects of their careers in art. Amanda tells listeners about the genesis of her work, while Mariela explains how muralism led to opportunity after opportunity, with each being bigger than the last. Throughout the episode, each artist shares anecdotes about their experiences in murals. We hear about swing stages, gender inequality in the art world, and how feminism can take on different…
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Mar 16, 2021
Trust Your Struggle: Nancy Hernandez + Cece Carpio with Erin Yoshi
Welcome to another Not Real Art takeover hosted by Erin Yoshi for the month of March to celebrate National Woman’s Month. Today Yoshi sits down with two of her Trust Your Struggle crewmates, Nancy Hernandez and Cece Carpio. Trust Your Struggle is a crew of visual artists who partner with communities across the world to fight for social justice using murals and other forms of protest action. Nancy and Cece both have longstanding careers that occupy the intersection between art and activism, and we kick the show off by hearing about their individual backstories and the compelling projects they have been involved in. From there, Erin, Cece, and Nancy take a trip down memory lane and share their different experiences of working, painting, living, laughing, and fighting the powers that be together over the years. We hear about Nancy’s involvement in the painting of a two-block-long stretch of San Francisco's Montgomery Street in a protest that demanded banks stop funding the fossil fuel…
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Mar 9, 2021
Maria Jenson + Heidi Johnson On Marketing Artists and Art Events with Erin Yoshi
Welcome to another podcast takeover with Erin Yoshi. For International Women’s Month, we are going to talk to some of Erin’s favorite women in the creative field, each offering something brilliant, raw, and powerful. Today we talk with guests Heidi Johnson and Maria Jenson about marketing artists and art events. Heidi is an accomplished public relations strategist, artist manager, and self-made entrepreneur. Maria, our other accomplished guest, a leader in advancing innovative strategies to sustain creative communities in the midst of a rapidly changing urban environment. We open the show by asking Heidi and Maria about their journeys into the arts and what their responsibilities include. After hearing about the various galleries and artists they work with, Maria tells us more about one of her projects, ArtPad, explaining its evolution and aims. Following this, Heidi opens up her marketing strategy playbook and shares a handful of her most useful marketing tools. She touches on som…
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Mar 2, 2021
Favianna Rodriguez, Anne Martin + The Power of Print with Erin Yoshi
For women, the time is now. Today Erin Yoshi begins her month-long takeover of the Not Real Art Podcast with a focus on uplifting women in the arts. We kick things off by finding out a little more about Erin, who is a creative strategist that paints stirring murals. As a curator, producer, former nonprofit executive, and now podcast host, Erin interviews two raw and powerful women for today’s episode: Favianna Rodriguez and Anne Martin. To start, listeners will learn about Favianna’s journey through art and how it has served as a way for her to express her experiences and the struggles of the oppressed. We then find out from Anne about her own history in art, the intricacies of printmaking, and the substantial value that comes with it. Following this, we tuck into the subtle and not-so-subtle undertones of Favinanna and Anne’s artwork before we unpack why prints can be so empowering. Both Favianna and Anne open up on the democratizing nature of prints and why tier value to societ…
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Feb 23, 2021
Erin Yoshi Previews Our VIP Guests for International Women’s Month
With International Women’s Month just around the corner, we decided to dedicate today’s show to previewing the exciting month we have ahead. As our guest and official occasional-co-host, Erin Yoshi joins us today to talk about what makes next month so special and how she is going to bring an edge to the Not Real Art podcast. We kick things off by finding out what Erin enjoys about hosting podcasts, as she tells us how each guest offers something unique in every episode. Following this, we talk to Erin about joining us at the Not podcast on a more regular basis and brainstorm how our future together might look. Returning to International Women’s Month, we then dive into the shows you can expect in March, as Erin gives us snippets about themes and guests you can expect to hear from. Adding to this, Erin talks about why it is so important for women to not only be given voice and opportunity during International Women’s Month but throughout the year as well. We draw the episode to…
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Feb 16, 2021
R+D Lab Experiment: Sourdough Plays With A New Format
We are doing things a little differently today’s episode of the Not Real Art Podcast. There’s no guest, just news. Good news. Random news. News you never knew you needed. While Man One is still away on assignment, Sourdough opens the show by discussing what this extra format is bringing to the table. We started off by asking: how do we bring value, how do we add more interesting stories, and do we need a different podcast? With these three questions in mind, we decided to trial this new show format. In this episode, Sourdough tests out our groovy new soundboard with rim shots, canned laughter, and live call-in capabilities. Just like the first pancake of the camp-out, this first episode is going to be something of an experiment. With this particular experiment, we are going to throw a range of topics into the mix, like the Not Real Art Artist grant, women in the art world, the importance of diversity, free speech in social media, and which glue works the best for modelers. If this…
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Feb 9, 2021
Scott Bedbury: Serving Others in All That You Do
In today’s episode, we sit down with Scott Bedbury, world-renowned brand consultant, author, and speaker who has played a central role in the success of massive names like Nike, Starbucks, and Airbnb. His bestselling book, A New Brand World, is a must-read for anyone working in business today. In this show, we talk about the erosion of trust in an internet age of powerful corporations, the need to return to a culture of empathy, and the radically human spirit behind the campaigns he worked on while helping build some of the biggest brands on the planet. We kick off the discussion hearing about the themes in Scott’s new book, where he describes the threats to values like authenticity, empathy, and trust posed by profit-hungry corporations leveraging the power of the internet. We then move onto hear the many incredible stories of the brands and people Scott worked with. He tells tales such as the one where he created the transcendent Just Do It campaign with his creative partners a…
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Feb 2, 2021
Juergen Berkessel: Artist, Photographer and Founder of Polymash
Today’s guest is Juergen Berkessel, founder of Polymash, here to talk about podcasting as a content strategy and the false distinction between career paths that occupy creative versus so-called ‘commercial’ spheres. Polymash is a boutique digital marketing agency based in Florida, and Juergen has become a close friend of Sourdough’s because Polymash has been advising on the subject of content strategy for the Not Real Art podcast. Juergen is a true polymath with an inspiring career trajectory and personal journey. He is a professional photographer, computer programmer, app developer, digital marketing expert, and podcaster who immigrated from Germany to the United States. Our conversation begins with Juergen telling the story of this journey. We hear him talk about how he got into photography, how he lived off rice and beans in New York as a struggling photographer, and how he made a career pivot into the world of software development thereafter. Here we talk at length about ho…
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Jan 26, 2021
Mona Lisa is Missing! Investigators Joe Medeiros + Justine Mestichelli Medeiros Tell All
If we told you that the Mona Lisa was missing, you probably wouldn’t believe it. But this was the case in 1911 when, for two years, the world’s most famous painting was nowhere to be found! Our guests today, Joe Medeiros and Justine Mestichelli Medeiros are experts on this fascinating story and have produced a documentary called Mona Lisa is Missing, where they take viewers on their journey as they unearth the truth about this great heist. Surprisingly, the story is not that well-documented and, where it has been recorded, the truth is twisted. Joe and Justine came at it from a different angle, wanting to present their findings with accuracy and integrity. In this episode, we hear about this passion project and how reading one line in a book about Leonardo da Vinci and the painting’s theft ignited an insatiable curiosity in Joe to discover the truth. We also learn more about the connections that Joe and Justine made, including with Celestina Peruggia, the thief, Vincenzo Peruggia…
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Jan 19, 2021
Mary Farmer: The Encaustic Painter Fighting for Social Justice
Art is important for more reasons than will ever be possible to count. From aiding cognitive development and critical thinking skills to beautifying the world we live in, art matters to us all. Today’s guest, Mary Farmer, is an internationally-recognized encaustic painter based in Asheville, North Carolina, whose work creates a portal into a timeless, transcendent state of consciousness. Interestingly, Mary’s paintings serve as a counterbalance to her firebrand spirit. Tireless in her pursuit of liberty and equity, she has put herself in harm’s way time during her lifelong fight for social justice and women’s rights. In this episode, we hear about Mary’s life, what growing up in Alabama was like, and some of the admirable work she has done establishing abortion clinics in the South. Mary then shares details about her art practice, including insights into the encaustic technique, where wax – rather than oil or water – is used to carry pigment. We find out how she came to c…
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Jan 12, 2021
Graffiti The City's Javie Lopez Does The Work
While the pandemic has taken a lot away, it has also gifted many of us with extra time to pursue our passions. This is how today’s guest, Javie Lopez, views the forced downtime in 2020, and he has been grinding harder than ever before. As a consummate multi-hyphenate, Javie is an artist, producer, DJ, videographer, director, and Founder and Creative Director of Graffiti The City. Along with this, he is a great friend, a die-hard supporter of the arts, and all-round dope, positive guy. In this episode, we talk about how he has been making the most of a clearer than usual schedule and the importance of not making excuses and staying savvy. Things will eventually find their way back to normal, so you might as well stay ahead of the game. We also chat about his record label and his hesitation to strike out on his own. Being the standup man he is, Javie wanted to make sure he could do good by all the artists he signed. Although Javie is killing it in many ways right now, he admits that he…
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Jan 5, 2021
Frances Anderton On Humanizing Design and Architecture
For the acclaimed writer, producer, and broadcaster Frances Anderton, telling engaging stories is about inspiring people and never leaving them feeling hopeless. Having just left her position of 22 years at KCRW, in this episode we speak with Frances about transition and her history reporting on how design and architecture impact community, politics, and culture. Early in the show, we explore how crises can lead to personal adventure. Reflecting the theme of transition, we discuss positives resulting from how Los Angeles has adapted to the pandemic. We dive into Frances’ work in design and architecture before she opens up about the experience of leaving KCRW. We talk about the challenges that Frances is facing, including the creative problem of whether she should focus on a new direction or continue the work that she’s so well-known for. In the latter part of the episode, we touch on how space can enhance our sense of community, how waste never truly goes away, Frances’ upcoming…
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Dec 29, 2020
Ron Vandenberg On The Business of Brand Building and Innovation
Brand identity is a big business. From consumer products to startups and even political parties, if people identify with your message, they will be on your side. Today's guest, Ron Vandenberg, is a multi-Clio Award-winning brand consultant and creative director and is recognized for his expertise in brand thinking, communication, design and experience. He is currently in the middle of launching a brand-smart business transformation company, Blulab, and we kick off the show by hearing details about his new venture. Ron shares why he wants to be able to offer both business and brand innovation services so that companies see long-term gains. We talk about innovation generally, where Ron shares the struggles he has seen when companies are not able to innovate. He also debunks some of the misconceptions around innovating, and why it's vital to trust the iterative process. Having started in the brand industry as an outsider, Ron understands the power of innovation firsthand, and he talks abo…
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Dec 22, 2020
Holiday Special with Paint The Town Podcast Hosts James Shen + Teachr1
Welcome to this special holiday episode of the Not Real Art Podcast! As Sourdough explains early on in the show, this episode is fast and loose, featuring a bunch of boys behaving badly due to excessive amounts of holiday cheer! ManOne is finally back in the studio after his year-long assignment and what makes today’s show even better is that James Shen and Teachr from Paint The Town podcast make an appearance too! After such a wild year of isolation, hustling, and adjustments, the warm energy throughout the conversation is palpable, with our hosts and guests feeling super excited to get a chance to catch up and shoot the breeze. The show kicks off with some stories about what it has been like trying to raise kids at this time in history, and then we move onto discuss the atmosphere of freedoms and restrictions in different parts of the U.S. at this late stage of the pandemic. From there, ManOne spills the beans about his assignment – a 78 x 14-foot mural that he has been making on…
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Dec 15, 2020
Scott Hoesman of InQuest Consulting: Why Can’t We All Just Get Along?
As the lines we have drawn to separate ourselves from others seem to be hardening, will we ever get to a place where we all get along? There may not be a silver bullet to reach a place of inclusion and equity, but this does not mean it is not possible. Today's guest, Scott Hoesman, Founder of inQuest Consulting, is doing the work to help teams create a more empathetic and inclusive culture. With feelings of anger, exclusion, and fear at an all-time high, Scott helps companies understand difference and find common humanity. In this episode, we talk about what inclusivity means and why we need to move past the idea that when we bring people in, we will lose something. Not only is this not true, but viewing people who are different from us through a fear-based lens only entrenches divisions further. We discuss why topics of inclusion and equity are so difficult for people to talk about, where Scott encourages everyone – yes, even the most liberal among us – to interrogate how they liv…
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Dec 8, 2020
Brian McCarty: Helping Children in War Zones Process Trauma with WarToys
Artists who are willing to put themselves in harm’s way are a rare bread, and those who use their work to help others are perhaps even rarer. Photographer, Brian McCarty, is one of these unique artists, and since 2011, he has been collaborating with the United Nations and other NGOs to help traumatized children in war zones. Through his project, War Toys, Brian uses the power of children’s toys, free play, and his camera to help these children process their pain. Brian has worked in places like Iraq, Syria, and the West Bank, and he joins us today to share insights into his work. We begin by hearing about his experience of working in a war zone and the complex emotions these spaces cause him to feel. On the one hand, he is exposed to the darkest side of humanity, while on the other, he sees people trying to help in the most selfless ways. Brian talks about the absurd and trite nature of his work and how this exact absurdity ultimately hooks people and draws them in. This endeavor h…
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Dec 1, 2020
Ric’key Pageot and Dessy Di Lauro of Parlor Social: Keeping the Faith in 2020
This year has understandably been tough for artists. With increasing levels of stress and anxiety, it is not easy to be freely creative. Yet, art, in all its forms, is more important than ever for getting people through these difficult times. Parlor Social is at the top of their game, and Ric’key Pageot and Dessy Di Lauro, the husband-and-wife duo behind the band, join us today to share what the pandemic has been like for them. We start by talking about some of the ways they have adapted to not being able to perform live and go on tour. Despite their initial reluctance to live streaming, they have found more connection than they ever thought possible with their virtual audience. Ric’key and Dessy talk about why they decided to give free access to their content, where they acknowledge their privilege of not being stressed about finances. We also hear about some of the other blessings that have come from this time for the pair like increased creativity and getting better at their cra…
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Nov 24, 2020
Robert Glenn Ketchum: Using Pictures to Save The World
Today’s guest is pioneering conservation photographer, Robert Glenn Ketchum. Robert's imagery and books have helped to define contemporary color photography while at the same time addressing critical national environmental issues, having made him one of the most successful artists and activists in American history. In today’s episode, Robert talks about the development of his career, the many adventures his work has taken him on, and the social change these projects have kickstarted. We dive straight in hearing Robert talk about the Pebble Mine campaign he is involved in currently where he is fighting against the construction of the largest gold and cyanide leech mine in the history of the world in Southwest Alaska. From there, Robert rewinds to his days as a student at UCLA in the 60s, where he started his photography career taking snaps of the famous bands that played in his neighborhood. On the way back from the Monterey Pop Festival, Robert camped out at Limekiln Creek to bre…
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Nov 17, 2020
Erin Yoshi: Designing a New World By Remembering Forward
Human beings have done a good job of ripping this planet apart; we have to figure out how to put it back together, and today’s guest is at the forefront of this initiative. Erin Yoshi joins us today to talk about her new project, The Land of WE. In this project, Erin is using art to drive conversations that imagine a different world, one in which we live within our means, and we rethink our exploitative systems that deplete our limited resources. Our conversation with Erin starts by tracing her journey as an artist, zooming in on how she got interested in murals, where her activistic approach found its expression, and how she developed such a strong skill in the business side of the pursuit. From there, we switch gears and focus on our current moment in history, a time defined by the exploits of capitalism which have driven movements to destroy the environment, divide people, and spread feelings of hopelessness. Erin talks about her belief in, and the possibility of, building a post-…
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Nov 10, 2020
Artists Mary Sherwood Brock and Joshua Wattles On Hope and Aspiration for Indivisibility In America
Continuing our conversation with Indivisible 2020 participating artists, today’s guests Mary Sherwood Brock and Joshua Wattle engage in a stimulating discussion filled with passion for the country. Show curator Karen Fiorito joins the two artists, who both have roots in Washington and have been on the frontlines for their whole lives — Mary as an activist, and Joshua as a lawyer and lobbyist for the anti-war movement. We get into what indivisibility means to our guests, where they both express the aspirational notion of it. While it is easy to dismiss aspirations, it is what keeps hope alive and gives us something worth fighting for. We hear about the work that Mary and Joshua submitted to the Indivisible exhibition and the rationale behind their creations. Participating in the exhibition aligns with much of the work that both Mary and Joshua have done in and outside of the arts, and we gain insights into their respective activism. We also talk about having hope, where Joshua refer…
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Nov 3, 2020
Artists Anna Stump, Erin Yoshi, Ted Meyer + Kalynn Campbell Discuss Being Indivisible in 2020
We continue our discussion with artists participating in Indivisible 2020 today with Anna Stump, Erin Yoshi, Ted Meyer, and Kalynn Campbell. In this jam-packed show, the guests address various pertinent social and political issues. We begin by hearing what indivisibility means to everyone, where Anna and Ted, who live in a rural, red part of the country share why they have chosen not to publicly express their political views. Both Erin and Kalynn feel that while indivisibility is possible and has been achieved at times, the current moment is deeply divided. We then talk about the rise of political discourse in popular culture and how the art reflective of this, such as Black Lives Matter murals and poster art, inspires our guests. We could not have a discussion about indivisibility without touching on the election, and we hear everyone’s take on Joe Biden as the candidate, why this election is more about voting against Trump than anything else, and how we might see the positives in t…
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Oct 27, 2020
Linda Vallejo & Man One: Artists On Politics and Being Indivisible
We are continuing our discussions with artists participating in the Indivisible 2020 exhibition that Not Real Art is a media partner of, and today’s guest is none other than Linda Vallejo. Linda is a multimedia artist who consolidates a range of influences from a lifetime of travel and study to create work that explores contemporary social, cultural, and political issues. Man One joins Linda in conversation, and these two powerful artists in our community discuss their Latinx identities and the way this has informed their work. They first unpack what indivisibility means to them and share how they both came to realize that they had been brainwashed into the belief that all Americans are united. As people of color, they have lived experience of the palpable division rampant in our society. We discuss the importance of questioning institutions, and Man One shares why he left the Catholic Church, which is difficult in the highly religious Mexican community. After discussing this tension…
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Oct 20, 2020
Leroy Johnson: What It Means to Be A Political Artist Today
In our increasingly polarized society and as the indivisibility we have been promised becomes further from our reality, what role do artists play in interrogating where we are now? The Indivisible 2020 exhibition explores what it means to be indivisible and divided in today’s United States, and Not Real Art is proud to be a media partner. The next few shows will be interviews with participating artists, and today’s guest, Leroy Johnson is a true political artist in every sense of the word. In this episode, Karen Fiorito, artist and curator of Indivisible 2020 joins Sourdough to talk with Leroy. We get to know Leroy, where he shares his understanding of being indivisible and how we have drifted from it. He does not simply believe that unity is about humans, but all earthlings and the exploitative, extractive nature of capitalism has completely shattered our respect for living beings. We also discuss the importance of artists giving their voices to causes rather than creating for ent…
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Oct 13, 2020
David Schwartz: Multidisciplinary Artist + Creator of Rhyme Capsule
Today we welcome multidisciplinary artist David Schwartz, AKA DVS to talk about his most recent foray into physical art, his memories of working with Prince, and the fruits of never giving up on a creative vision. David is a singer, songwriter, graphic designer, art director, and visual artist, and while he was sleeping in his car after he got out of college he also started hanging out with Prince and ended up collaborating on Daisy Chain. Since his youth days, David has been pursuing a career in graphic design and art direction, with a resume that includes websites for Zoolander 2 and The Office, and album artwork for 2 Chainz, Paris Hilton and a slew of Gucci Mane covers. After a long list of challenges, David recently realized his latest artistic ambition, a 1200 pound sculpture called Rhyme Capsule consisting of a marble hooded figure holding up a cut crystal boombox encapsulating 180 authentic Hip Hop tapes released between 1980-2000. Davis tells us how he got the idea for suc…
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Oct 6, 2020
Tijera Williams: Artist + 2020 NRA Grant Recipient
Today we speak to Tijera Williams, a painter whose work incorporates collage, self-portraiture, and re-workings of art iconography to form images that are rich and raw while carrying a powerful political message. Tijera is a recipient of the 2020 NRA art grant and it was a pleasure having her on the show to talk about her journey with art, the white supremacist political landscape in America, and how art can play a role in making the playing field more equal. Tijera talks about her experiences in school as a Black woman, self-funding her college education, battling homelessness and unemployment, but hustling in multiple jobs to make ends meet while still finding time to paint. We explore the idea of making political art, Tijera’s frustrations with the political climate in America, how art can engage people and shift mentalities, and how she began to make the transition to making more political work. She talks about balancing her art practice with her job and her health and what the p…
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Sep 29, 2020
Miki Yokoyama: Artist + 2020 NRA Grant Recipient
Miki Yokoyama makes ethereal illustrations on 2D and 3D surfaces that explore the profundity of life and allude to the interconnectedness of all beings. She is an NRA 2020 grant recipient and today she joins us on the show to speak about her work and the process that inspires it. For Miki, the idea of all lives beginning, intertwining, and ending in an infinite universe is deeply profound. It is a notion that is beyond words, a force that can only be expressed visually, thus becoming the subject matter behind her art. Miki tells us the story of how this feeling grew inside her until one day she had to let it out, and how her creative process began to evolve after that, beginning with a Sharpie and incorporating color, objects, and life drawing into it as time moved on. We hear about what goes through Miki’s mind when she makes art, and she talks about ‘becoming nothing’, letting her mind roam free, and where the images and symbols that flow through her onto the canvas in that sta…
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Sep 22, 2020
Kiara Machado: Artist + 2020 Not Real Art Grant Recipient
We know how important art can be in subverting dominant narratives and creating spaces for marginalized communities to speak from. Today's guest, Kiara Machado, is a first-generation Central American-American painter whose work explores the complexity of her identity. As a 2020 NRA Grant winner, Kiara’s work stood out to us as being sophisticated, bold, and captivating. In this episode, which celebrates Kiara, we hear about her creative process and how the anger of always having to defend her identity informs her work. Having grown up in America, she has faced these issues from an early age and channels her frustrations into her work. Through paying homage to Central American women, Kiara celebrates who she is. We also talk about the lack of nuance that's common when people think about Latinx culture. We unpack some of the contributing factors to this homogenization including schooling and algorithms and how they feed into the erasure of groups of people. Along with this, we discuss…
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Sep 15, 2020
Paloma Montoya: Artist + 2020 Not Real Art Grant Recipient
Paloma Montoya’s work draws visual inspiration from classic cartoons, using her character Lola to play with teen internet culture in a way that is dark but funny too. She was a recipient of the 2020 NRA grant and joins us on the show today to talk about what her work is all about and how she handles the different sides of being an artist. We kick things off with Lola talking about some of her recent projects, making art during the lockdown, and how she copes with the challenges of networking at real-life art events. From there we get to hear more about where the fierce and satirical imagery Paloma makes comes from. Paloma shares about how she came up with Lola from the word ‘LOL’, and draws different grotesquely funny versions of her along with other language abbreviations from online culture. Along with all this, we speak to Paloma about staying true to her childhood dream amongst the pressures of corporate America, the challenges posed by the business side of being an artist, a…
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Sep 8, 2020
Jacqueline Valenzuela: Artist + 2020 NRA Grant Recipient
Art can be an incredibly powerful tool in giving overlooked and marginalized communities spaces to speak and share their stories. Today's guest, Jacqueline Valenzuela, is a painter whose work is centered around her experience in the Chicano world of lowriding. She conveys the stories of women in the space who own their own cars, and who, despite facing tremendous odds, are rising up in the male-dominated lowriding world. As a 2020, NRA Grant Recipient, Jacqueline’s work stood out to us for being fresh, and a voice worth listening to. In this episode, Jacqueline talks about the lowrider car culture that informs so much of what she creates. She shares how she got her start in the space, details about her car, La Playgirl, and how she grew to appreciate it as an art form. Jacqueline points out that there have always been women lowriders, but they do not get the recognition they deserve. This is why she wants to tell these women’s stories, and we hear more about her creative process, w…
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Sep 1, 2020
Gershon Kreimer: Photographer + 2020 Not Real Art Grant Winner
We are back from our summer hiatus, excited about what the fall has in store. So much has happened this year, and our shows are going to reflect this because artists have an important role in getting messages out there. We do not want to be tone-deaf, so we will not be shying away from issues like politics and Black Lives Matter. We share what we have been working on during our break, including our artist education program and our membership offering. While Man One is out on assignment, Sourdough is holding down the fort and welcomes 2020 NRA Grant Recipient, photographer, Gershon Kreimer, today. With an educational background in film, Gershon transitioned to photography, where his sculptural, layered photographs have gained recognition and acclaim. We discuss the nature of his work, and why he is driven by making his photographs as universal as possible. He shares some of the breakthrough moments that have enabled him to find his voice. Growing up in Lima, Peru shaped who Gershon is,…
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May 5, 2020
Music Producer Dan Ubick Talks Music, Hip Hop + Positivity
With the world in its current state, it’s hard to remain positive. But to survive, we have to continue to find the beauty however we can and be inspired by the good. Our guest today, Dan Ubick, is not only an extraordinarily talented musician, but he is also a shining light in these dark times. As a producer, composer, and multi-instrumentalist, Dan grew up with music. His father was a jazz bassist, and his mom listened to the Beatles and classical music while designing jewelry. Dan’s sister introduced him to hip hop, and the rest is history. With an impressive discography, Dan has worked with everyone from De La Soul to Big Daddy Kane to Method Man. In this episode, we talk about Dan’s incredible musical journey. As someone who values friendships and connections, they have always opened up great opportunities for him. We also do a deep dive into the world of hip hop, and Dan and host Sourdough share their experiences of discovering the genre and the impact that it had on them. L…
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May 5, 2020
Rethinking the Role of Museums Today with Lacey Flint
Museums are a fundamental part of the creative landscape and society as a whole. Not only do they display great examples of creativity, but they also act as portals for us to enter worlds we may never see otherwise. Our guest today, Lacey Flint, is the archivist and curator of research collections at The Explorers Club, and she is passionate about making the artifacts at the space as accessible as possible. In this episode, we learn about the interesting path Lacey took to work in curation. Being naturally drawn to history and education, she worked as a teacher. Through that, she realized that it was important to make history more tangible for it to be a meaningful learning experience. She threw herself into the deep end and pursued a Masters degree in England and worked in various roles before the Explorers Club. We also learn more about the fascinating history of the club and the mission it was founded on. It is easy to think that with technology now, we have seen all there is to see…
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Apr 28, 2020
How To Manage Stress with Therapist Bret Hofstein
Are you living your best quarantine life, learning new skills, reading books, and binge-watching Netflix? If like Sourdough you are a parent of young kids, you know this is not happening, particularly if you are making any effort to home school them. Regardless of your circumstances, these times are stressful for everybody, and that’s why getting licensed psychotherapist Bret Hofstein on the podcast couldn’t have come at a better time. In this episode, he talks to the Hollywood art community in particular—actors, writers, directors, painters—about managing the common problems that this population comes up against, the most prominent of which the frustration of having to play the game. Idealistic as they are, most have a hard time dealing with the tough competition out there, often finding it difficult to do what needs to be done to give themselves the best shot while also nursing unrealistic expectations about their abilities and their work. Add to that a host of uncontrollable…
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Apr 21, 2020
Linc Thelen Shares His Artistic Journey
Today we’re joined by a multitalented artist, Linc Thelen, who not only paints beautiful works of art but also designs and builds contemporary high-end homes for which he has been critically acclaimed. Sourdough caught up with Linc at the 2019 Art Basel to talk about his impression of the show, exhibiting his work, and the art that has captured his attention. Having a formal education in both art and architecture, Linc is in a unique position to bring his clients something from both worlds, an aspect that has gained him a large public following. He shares how his journey as an artist has taught him to see differently, how he was unexpectedly influenced by minimalism and his hope of creating art that brings positive energy to people’s homes. When you look at his paintings and house designs, there is a recognizable narrative running through all of them, and this he ascribes to being intentional and consistent in the atmosphere he wants his work to exude. Despite these noticeable trai…
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Apr 14, 2020
The One Where Burt Reynolds Hires A Graffiti Artist
Today’s episode is the audio of a video shoot that Sourdough and Man One recently did at Art Share L.A. Despite knowing each other for 17 years, there are still new stories that come out every time the pair sit down to talk. Man One shares more about his Hollywood encounters, from being cast in stereotypical graffiti artist roles to having his work featured in some major motion pictures, he’s been through it all. He also discusses how rife artist exploitation is and both he and Sourdough share their stories of how people have tried to undercut them throughout the years. It can be so easy when you’re starting out to want to do work for free, but artists should stand their ground both for themselves and for the artistic community at large. By giving your time and work away for free, you devalue yourself and other artists by extension. Stand up for yourself, be firm, and trust in your work. As artists who have seen it all, Man One and Sourdough’s advice is certainly worth tuning i…
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Apr 7, 2020
NOT REAL ART Talks to Artists Marguerite Kalhor, Monica Leal Cueva, Juliana Bustillo and Jessie Noguchi: 2019 Grant Winners
In this episode, Sourdough and Cheyenne Sauter, Executive Director of Art Share L.A, talk to 2019 art grant winners Marguerite Kalhor, Monica Leal Cueva, Juliana Bustillo, and Jessie Noguchi. These amazing young artists discuss how winning the NOT REAL ART Grant differs from many others in that it demands nothing back but rather frees them to spend the money on whatever they need. Unfortunately, many grants come with strings attached and organizations are determined to get a return on their investment, which is often counterproductive from the artist’s perspective. They talk about finding your voice as an artist, dealing with the business side of the work, and the importance of figuring out what you expect your art to do for you. Some do it for pleasure, some for their own sanity, and yet others want to make a living from their art – it’s all about being clear about what this looks like for you. With the 2019 Not Real Art Exhibition in view, our guests discuss their process o…
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Mar 31, 2020
NOT REAL ART Celebrates Its 2019 Artist Grant Recipient: Eben Eldridge
We’re grateful to welcome Eben Elridge onto the show today. Not only is he a talented guy with a great heart, but he is also a recipient of last year’s Not Real Art grant, where we gave $1,000 to 12 artists. In our fascinating chat, which is the audio version of a video we recently recorded, Eben shares some of his incredible journey with us. We talk about how receiving the grant has impacted him and why he has chosen to put himself first. Eben does not believe in being a starving artist. Rather, he feels that artists should take care of themselves first to be in the best health possible. We also learn more about muses and the different relationships you can have with them. For some people, the connection can be so intense that it takes them a while to recalibrate, while for others, readjusting is easier. Eben talks about why he thinks so many people are afraid to create, the importance of belonging to different communities, and why the creative journey rather than the product is t…
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Mar 24, 2020
NOT REAL ART Celebrates 2019 Artist Grant Winners: Rachel O’Donnell, Beth Abaravich, Edmund Arevalo, + Thony Loui
In this episode, we celebrate the culture of creativity by bringing something new to the show. A couple of months ago, we did a video production project at Art Share L.A. in which we interviewed our grant winners in talk-show format. Today, in this podcast, we’re releasing the audio of the first production shoot which included Cheyenne Sauter, the executive director of Art Share L.A., who joined Sourdough in conversation with four of our twelve grant winners. Tuning in to this episode, you will hear from artists Rachel O’Donnell, Beth Abaravich, Edmund Arevalo, and Thony Loui who discuss their experience of applying for and winning the grant, where they go to learn about available grants, and fighting the paralyzing fear that often prevents artists from putting themselves out there. They also talk about the challenges they face as full-time small business owners, dealing with the financial and administrative tasks, connecting with the art community, and making time to be inspired b…
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Mar 17, 2020
NOT REAL ART Fights Morbid Obesity + More Good News!
We are elated by the number of five-star reviews we’ve been getting on iTunes – all we needed to get us psyched up for the new year and ready to bring you some more awesome content. We’ve got an episode full of banter, which includes Sourdough and Man One sharing their expectations and goals for the year. They’re looking forward to the annual Not Real Art conference, traveling, and the kinds of chaos the new year will bring. But they advise listeners to assume a position of cautious optimism rather than buying into the blind optimism we often see from the talking heads on TV, and they share how gaining a bird’s eye view on situations helps to mitigate anxiety. The two play a game where Sourdough has to guess what piece of fitness equipment Man One bought for the studio, and after a few incorrect guesses, Sourdough finally gets it. This is, they believe, the first step to getting back into shape, or at least to get Man One down from morbidly obese to obese. These are some of o…
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Mar 10, 2020
DesignerCon 2019 with Mark Brickey from Adventures in Design
DesignerCon is one of the undisputed highlights of the art calendar, and the event is growing from strength to strength. Not Real Art Gallery and Man One were both repping in booths at the trade show. Mark Brickey, a dear friend of ours and host of Adventures in Design Podcast, was there on our behalf to interview some of the biggest and brightest stars of the art world. He interviews our very own Man One, who, as we know is one of the realest OGs out there. He has been making art for more than 20 years, and his commitment to the craft has not waned in the slightest. He shares what has given him the motivation and why he loves DCon so much. Mark also talks with other artists including Never Made, who shares some of his personal story, Dan Janssen, who talks about the industry shift from anonymous designers to being design-famous, and Aaron Draplin, who spits the truth as usual. For so many artists, when they started out, a platform like DCon didn’t even exist. Now it’s here, giving…
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Mar 3, 2020
E78: 2019: Looking Backwards and Forwards
2019: Looking Backwards and Forwards. Welcome back to your favorite art podcast! It's a new year and we are taking this opportunity to look back on what a great year 2019 was and look to the future of Not Real Art and the creative community. Man One remembers some of his inspiring trips from last year and just how amazing Tokyo and Hong Kong were before we get deep on Art Basel and its highs and lows. From the unbelievable opening of the Museum of Graffiti to bananas taped to walls, we cover it all and there are no real surprises as to what we liked and did not. 2019 was a year of great progress for the Not Real Art brand and our associates and events and we are so grateful for the opportunity to continue this in 2020! We finish off the episode meditating on the importance of family and health, things we can all do well to remember. For this and more, stay tuned. Key Points From This Episode: Looking back on 2019, awards, travel and the achievements for Not Real Art! Man One's best tr…
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Dec 10, 2019
E77: Kevin Zinger: Make The Wave You Ride
It's an honor to have the one and only Kevin Zinger on the show today! Kevin is an entrepreneur who has been driving the skate, surf, and punk rock cultures in San Diego for years. He manufactures clothing, manages bands, produces films, curates art exhibitions, and even has a syndicated radio show! Kevin grew up in Southern California dreaming to be a pro surfer, and while he made cash from his sponsorships each month he was smart enough to realize early on that it wasn't going to be viable as a career choice. His surfing did introduce him to bands like The Offspring, Pennywise, and Sublime, in their fledgling phases though. He began to bring bands like these to his hometown to play at packed venues he was too young to get into for 5 dollars a ticket! Keven shares how this early love for organizing gigs became the center of multiple passion projects that linked art, music, and fashion — while earning him a living too! He has some great stuff to share with us today about how doing wh…
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Dec 4, 2019
Special Report: Adobe Max 2019
We asked art journalist Mark Brickey, host of Adventures in Design podcast, to tell us what he thought about Adobe Max 2019.
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Dec 3, 2019
E76: Karen Fiorito, Contemporary Visual Artist
In this episode of Not Real Art, we welcome Karen Fiorito! Karen is a political artist and activist, focussing on issues around the environment, animal welfare and the government. We are so excited to share this conversation, as Karen unpacks a lot of inspiring and useful information around her activism and artistic practice and how the two are so closely linked. She was a recent recipient of the Not Real Art grant and she talks about her reflections on this as well as her tips for applying for grants more broadly. We discuss some of her history, spending time in LA and now living in San Diego, away from the big city. This geographic change has had a big impact on Karen's work and she shares exactly how it has brought her activism into more stark contrast! We also talk about her highly viral and controversial billboard depicting Trump and the apocalypse and how she has experienced her fair share disappointments and setbacks, being called 'not a real artist'. This is why Karen is such a…
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Nov 26, 2019
E75: Interior Designer Nina Hiken
Welcome back to the show creators and creatives! Today our guest is interior designer, Nina Hiken of Nina Hiken Designs! Nina has a passion for bringing beauty into spaces through the use of color and texture and we chat about client relationships, current projects and the previous career Nina had in education. For Nina, every job is an opportunity to solve problems and unify themes for a client and she is fully focussed on bringing their dreams and personality alive through interior design. We discuss this approach in contrast to signature design styles and why she feels that, for now, she is very happy to work in strict adherence to client needs. She also believes that matching well with clients is imperative to good results, something she has grown to sense early on. Nina unpacks her adoration of color and the tactile, sensory feel of different materials, she also opens up about some of her dream projects for the future! We discuss Feng Shui, societal norms around cleaning up and th…
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Nov 19, 2019
E74: Anne Martin of Sugar Press Art
Welcome back to the Not Real Art Podcast! Today we have a great friend, creative powerhouse and generally lovely citizen of the world on the show, none other than Anne Martin of Sugar Press Art! Anne is here to share her own creative journey, how she found her niche helping other artists get their work out there and why she is living the dream, doing exactly what she should be doing! Since art school, when she started realizing that she was always highly involved in her friends' and peers' artworks, Anne was destined to find her place in the publishing world, championing the work she loved and believed in. In our conversation, we talk about Sugar Press, how the agency started and its founding principles, before Anne breaks down some of her concerns for emerging artists, exposure deals and some tips for copyrighting and cataloging one's work. She shares about some of the artists she is excited to be working with at Sugar Press and the recent KAABOO event they hosted! For this and a whol…
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Nov 12, 2019
E73: Milton Esterow: A Life Dedicated to ARTNews
Today we have a very special episode in store! We are so lucky to welcome the one and only Milton Esterow to the show, for his first podcast appearance ever! His work at ARTnews set the standard of investigative journalism in the art world, being one of the foremost writers and critics in his field. Growing up in Brooklyn and starting out in 1945 at the New York Times, Milton has seen more than most and his perspective on art and creativity is invaluable to a younger generation. Having found his niche in cultural news, Milton bought ARTNews in 1972 and ran it as publisher and editor-in-chief for 42 years, building it into the world’s largest circulated arts magazine. Milton has won numerous awards and accolades, is a prolific author and renowned voice in the art world. In our conversation, we cover a huge amount of knowledge, with Milton sprouting multitudes of anecdotes and stories from his amazing career. For this great chat with a beautiful human being, be sure to listen in today!…
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Nov 5, 2019
All About DesignerCon 2019 with Ben Goretsky
Our guest today for the show is the one and only Ben Goretsky! Ben is the brains behind 3D Retro and DesignerCon, and today we will talking all about DesignerCon 2019! Ben gives us some insight into just how sleep-deprived and excited he is and we talk about the somewhat controversial but ultimately wonderful move to Anaheim from Pasadena. We talk about what's new, VIP tickets and why this year's event is going to be an all-round kick-ass time! Ben explains some of the great initiatives that are coming to light in 2019 and bringing back some galleries and exhibitions from exile and near-death! He offers some great advice to new vendors and hopefuls for next year, pretty much oozing excitement around the amount of good stuff that is going to be on show very soon. Warning! Listening to this episode will result in you definitely wanting to attend! Listen in to hear all this and more! Key Points From This Episode: The history behind the Sourdough alias! Work in the trenches of preparing f…
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Oct 29, 2019
Ep. 71: Advocating for the Religion of Love with Karen Frost
Today on the show we’re joined by the highly talented Karen Frost who is a television producer, fellow podcaster and spiritual advisor. Karen is a creative executive at JuVee Productions, Viola Davis and Julius Tennon’s production company that is focused on developing the content of marginalized and emerging writers. In this episode, you will hear all about the podcast Drunken Church Ladies, which she co-hosts with her wife and her personal struggles with breaking out of religious traditions to find her own spiritual path. Karen is passionate about redefining God and what it means to be spiritual, fully committed to creating a society that is wholly inclusive and one that can reconstruct ancient ways that no longer serve the greater good of all. She shares about the obstacles she has had to overcome as a queer person of color, the mental shift she had to make to finally get into the entertainment industry and what the spiritual center, Bodhi, meant to her in the process. Some of th…
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Oct 22, 2019
Ep.70: SNEAKERTOPIA
Welcome back to the show everybody, today is an extra special episode as we take this chance to talk about the upcoming Sneakertopia event! Man One is taking part in the exhibition and he explains his involvement and what he knows about what will be happening. The pop-up sneaker museum will be celebrating everything related to the culture, its history and the current landscape of the art form. This leads into a conversation in which we talk about our own experiences of sneaker culture and collecting, the industry at large, the intersection of music, design and sport and some cultural landmarks to do with sneakers! We talk RUN DMC, documentaries, famous collections, and sneaker hoarding. For all this and more, join us today for this great episode! Key Points From This Episode: Pop-up museums and the exciting prospect of the new Sneakertopia initiative. Man One's work for the event and what he will be taking part in. The brief that they gave Man One and the new territory he will be cove…
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Oct 15, 2019
Ep. 68: Impact Culture with Michael Ornstein
Today on the Not Real Art Podcast we are joined by a true Renaissance man! Painter, actor, writer, husband, father and a whole lot more, none other than Michael Ornstein! Michael has managed to build an amazing creative life and career through his natural passion and curiosity for expression. He tells us about how he tries to keep himself out of his painting, the lessons he learned in his first acting classes and the big role his parents had on his ideas around art and creativity. We also discuss moving around the country, raising a family and why he prefers to visit LA for work and focus on one thing at a time. For Michael, his array of talents and interests means that there is a rotating quality to where he puts his energy at any given time. Sometimes his painting is leading him, other times he is giving acting most of his energy and he would not have it any other way. For a great chat with a truly inspiring person in command of a bunch of different crafts, tune in today! Key Points…
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Oct 11, 2019
Ep. 67: A New Collab with Devona Stimpson, Aelias McHam, and &SÜPA.
On the podcast today we are joined by three wonderful up and coming artists! They actually all met and connected at this year's Not Real Art Conference and the collaboration that sprouted from that encounter is our topic of conversation for today. They have just finished a mural, which they planned and executed together, a massive set of walls housed in L.A.'s Print Renegades premises and they tell us all about this experience from beginning to end! From the painting, preparation, and reflection we delve into their thoughts and experiences as young artists and how much they learned in this last week of hard work. They all emphasize the impact that pushing to make this mural happen has had on them individually and how they want to carry this momentum forward in their careers. Each of our guests unpacks a little about their paths and how they found themselves at a conference and then on a podcast! We hear from Aelias about the interesting route he took through his education, from &SÜPA…
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Oct 8, 2019
Ep. 64: Comic Katie Love Loses Her Religion!
Today on the show we welcome writer and comic Katie Love! Katie has been living and working in LA for over 20 years and made it her life's work to share her love of laughter and stories with the world. From performing on stage to helping startups communicate their message, honesty and humor go hand in hand for Katie and she continues to strive for her best in all of her different pursuits. For show notes and any links to Katie Love's work and upcoming performances, visit: https://notrealart.com/ In our conversation, we cover some of the recent projects she has been involved in, her family history and early experiences in comedy. We also talk about what it means to be on stage and share your inner world with the public, how humor can heal and the value of pushing sensitive buttons. Katie has an optimistic and appreciative attitude towards the difficulties that arise in the life of a creative, something that is truly inspiring. We also get into the dogma and selectiveness of the church,…
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Oct 1, 2019
Ep. 63: Michael "Fish" Herring: Real Life Guitar Hero
On today's show, we are joined by our guitar hero, Michael Fish Herring! From touting with Prince and Christina Aguilera to in-studio work and developing younger artists, Fish has pretty much done it all. With years in the game and a strong dedication to his craft and the art-form, our guest has so much to share about his experiences and ideas around creativity. For show notes and any links to Michael Fish Herring's work, visit: https://notrealart.com/michael-fish-herring We chat about some exciting projects he has been working on recently, early experiences with music growing up and, of course, some interesting insider stories from life on the road. Fish tells us about his creative process, his home studio and how rewarding it is to see his son showing a passion for the arts. We also discuss the technical side of his music, pedal rigs and all the work that goes on behind the scenes. We finish off the discussion considering the more philosophical and social sides of different art-fo…
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Sep 24, 2019
Ep. 61: Miss Art World Confesses: She Was Once A Mime!
Welcome to another episode of Not Real Art! Joining us today is conceptual artist and fellow podcaster Katherine Cooksey, aka Miss Art World. With a new show coming out in a few days, she is excited to share a bit about what the audience can expect from the show, what performance art entails, her approach to each performance and why it is the purest of all art forms. For show notes and any links to Miss Art World's work, visit: https://notrealart.com/miss-art-world From an early age, Katherine was drawn to all things feminine and got into the world of pageants, and together with her miming training, discovered the possibilities of artistic expression using her own body. But Katherine is also a feminist who communicates strong pro-feminist messages through her work, and her Miss Art World brand is the coming together of her love of art, girly things and carrying out the message of female empowerment. We talk about the important role of art education, the responsibility that teachers ha…
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Aug 20, 2019
Ep. 60: The Secret Behind Every Successful Artist
On this episode, we have a conversation about the role that a partner plays in the life of an artist, and Sourdough and Man One both share stories about their experiences with their wives as people who have encouraged them in their artistic pursuits and how this has fundamentally enabled them to do what they love. In light of their upcoming 25th anniversary, Man One talks about how his wife Laura had supported him from before they got married and cheered him on as a new artist trying to make ends meet for his family. Getting married to her came very naturally to him and he admits to being incredibly lucky to have found the right person early in his life. We also talk about contemplating fatherhood, raising kids, religion and how certain values of religion are more important than adhering to a set of restrictive rules. Join us for this behind the scenes look at the people and issues that shape our art! Key Points from This Episode: Introducing Man One’s awesome new website called P…
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Aug 11, 2019
Ep. 59: Man One Returns!
Today we are so happy to be welcome back Man One! He has been gallivanting all over the world and in particular had an amazing research trip to Asia, spending time in Hong Kong and Tokyo for an upcoming job he is working on with RTI. The trip was so special and inspiring in many ways and we reflect on the highlights and talking points from the experience. The conversation covers cultural exchange and embracing difference, a ton of interesting observations that Man One made around norms and practices, and the art scene in both the major cities he visited. We also get into why the Japanese offer pay per view golf in their hotels, an amazing venue in Tokyo where Man One spent time, and trash trucks that play music on their garbage routes! Man One also reminisces about his time in Osaka in 1999 and painting with design students in the mountains, contrasting that experience with this trip, twenty years later. For all this and then some, be sure to join us on the Not Real Art Podcast, today!…
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Aug 6, 2019
Ep. 58: Dreaming Up Gadgets with Michael Moore
Welcome back to the Not Real Art Podcast! Joining me is Michael Moore, a creative-to-the-core who fabricates amazing pieces of art as a side hustle. He works a full time job, but he is a true creative polymath who plays music while also making industrial and military-style gadgets with random materials he puts together in imaginative ways. Michael chats about splitting his time between working in the steel mines and creating objects from the inspiration he draws from various places. Being a multidisciplinary artist, he talks about his love for playing the guitar and being part of the band Digital Hair and reveals a few of his favorite musicians. Like a true artist, Michael explains why his art is not about making money and why he is more interested in getting greater exposure and sharing his work with other parts of the world. We talk about the difference between coming up with something truly original and simply replicating what others are doing and conclude that there is probably a p…
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Jul 19, 2019
Ep. 57: Ken Feldman + The Transcendence of The 747 Project
Today is a rare episode because we have the cofounder of Big Imagination, Ken Feldman, joining us. The Big Imagination Foundation is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization that aims to incubate bold, visionary projects that inspire the world to dream big. As their 747 Project for Burning Man proves, their artistic pursuits are literally and figuratively larger-than-life and out of the box and to accomplish these groundbreaking projects, they rely on radical collaboration and community support while also providing opportunities for education and participation. On today’s show, Ken answers all the questions we have about this magnificent creation, including how he came up with the idea, how hundreds of people collaborated to make it happen, what the experience is like for Burning Man visitors and why it entails so much more than self-expression on a grand scale. We also talk more generally about the misconceptions about Burning Man and why this event is really about community and celebratin…
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Jul 19, 2019
Ep. 56: IP Attorney + Photographer, Joshua Wattles
Today on the show we have Joshua Wattles, artist, photographer and lawyer for the creative arts! Formerly Advisor-in-Chief to DeviantArt, we chat with Joshua about his career in film, music and his creative pursuits alongside all of these. We discuss current issues of privacy and the advent of GDPR, how these new laws translate across the world in different ways and what this means for the global creative community. The conversation covers the rise of DeviantArt and how it preceded many of the communities and social networks that dominate today's landscape, setting the standard for a lot of the norms of the modern internet world. Joshua comments on the importance of community, artistic freedom and the role of luck in life of the mammoth platform he helped build. We also hear about the landmark moments in film that Joshua was a part of in his work at Paramount and how he transitioned out of a big film studio into the relatively outsider realm of DeviantArt. For this fascinating conversa…
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Jun 28, 2019
Ep. 55: Film, Television + Sharing the World with Artist Michael Oates Palmer
Today on the show we are lucky to have award winning screenwriter, world traveler, melomaniac, gourmand, political junkie, social justice activist and all around great human, Michael Oates Palmer! Michael has worked as a writer on countless TV shows and films, building an unpredictable and varied career over the last twenty years. With many interests and a voracious curiosity for the world around him, Michael has managed to stay astride of his inspiration and keep moving on, even through failure and difficult periods. We chat about journalling practices, the creative process, travel and why the research that goes into new work is one of his favorite parts of the job. Michael also shares some of his deeper philosophies on being at home in the world, round table conversations and the connection between curiosity and empathy. With a heart and mind dedicated to creativity and positive impact, our guest really shows how it is possible to follow your abilities and passions while at the same…
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Jun 27, 2019
Ep. 54: The Fourth Dimension with Artist Cleophus
Our guest today is Albert Cleophus Willis, artist, designer, music producer and resident of the fourth dimension! Working as a multidisciplinary artist over the last four decades has provided Cleophus with an obvious wealth of experiences and lessons, way too much to fit into one podcast. His continuing journey through new ideas, traversing inspiring and unchartered territories and a commitment to practicality and making ends meet are just some of the ways in which our guest has kept himself busy over his life time. We chat about his three dimensional work, daily routines, art school and portraiture. We also ruminate on the digital age and the computer as a creative tool, its pros and cons. Cleophus opens up about the artist as a rebel and someone who breaks the status quo while the world around them is trying to categorize everything and he shares openly about the wealth of creativity that is present in his family and amongst his siblings. There is also a surprising moment in the conv…
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Jun 27, 2019
Ep. 53: Putting the Pieces Together with Dessy + Ric'key of Parlor Social
On today's show we are very happy to host Dessy Di Lauro and Ric'key Pageot from Parlor Social! The band has been slowly building a reputation and following that is not be messed with and their solo ventures and session and touring work for big names such as Madonna and Cirque Du Soleil have enabled both of our guests to carve out full time creative careers in their area of passion. We discuss the benefits of sticking your neck out, The Secret and the power of visualization. We also talk about about constantly preparing and practicing for steps in the path towards success. As world creators, who use music and the power of song in many different settings, Dessy and Ric'key are great examples of taking particular artistic gifts and finding ways to live the life of your dreams. The conversation covers the serendipitous and magical connections they have made with huge names in the business, from Herbie Hancock and Benjamin Wright to Stevie Wonder and Madonna. We also talk about meditation,…
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May 30, 2019
Ep. 51: Gratitude, Contribution + Experiential Marketing with Kelly Vaught of BeCore
In this episode Sourdough and Kelly Vaught from BeCore join in conversation about everything from parenting and core values to experiential marketing and politics. Starting off, Kelly shares with us what he is most grateful for and his personal philosophy for a happy, meaningful life. His family is incredibly important to him and he dishes out some of his tried and tested parenting advice and reflects on his own childhood experiences and how they have shaped him. We discuss the role of liberal arts in teaching critical thinking, what the world actually needs from politicians, forging meaningful connections with people and the need for advertising folk to grasp and engage with contemporary culture. We reimagine a society where the measure of success is holistic and where people’s contribution to all spheres of life is a more interesting consideration than just what they do as a job and the money they get from doing it. Don’t miss out on this insightful conversation with people who s…
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May 23, 2019
Ep. 50: The Artistry of Renaissance Man, David Ryan Scott
On today’s show, Sourdough has a conversation with David Ryan Scott who is a true creative polymath and renaissance man. He has written books, poetry, music and is just a multitalented artist, always busy creating and producing. Recently he has been expanding his skills in woodwork and leather craft, making beautiful hand-made objects such as briefcases, wallets and knives. Like many other creatives, David has a ‘real job’ but lives out his love for art through the many projects he takes on part-time. Together with his dad, he started crafting from a young age, initially to save money, but later realized that certain items were just hard to come by, which was all the motivation he needed to continue making things himself. On the show today David lets us in on some of the details about his work, including the tools he uses, the joy of hand stitching and what this artistic pursuit has meant for him on a personal level. To learn more about his unique craftsmanship, join us for this…
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May 15, 2019
Ep. 49: Meditation: A Practice Artists Can’t Afford Not to Do, with David Gerken.
Joining us on the show today is writer and meditation advocate David Gerken. He is a multidimensional human being who has gone from working as a legislative assistant and lobbyist to becoming a writer for The West Wing in LA. After going through an intensely stressful period in his life, he discovered the empowering practice of meditation and has since been fervent in communicating his knowledge with others. Being a pragmatist, David believes that meditation is not applicable only to hippies and certain elite groups, but instead claims that people of all backgrounds can reap from its many benefits. Meditating is not difficult, he says, and it does not have to take more than five to fifteen minutes a day, and therefore a busy schedule should not thwart you from getting into this life-changing habit. In fact, David argues that meditation gives back exponentially more than the little it takes: it gets you focused and living in the present moment, improving the quality of every single aspe…
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May 15, 2019
Ep. 48: Talking Mental Health with Advocate Eric Coly
Our guest today is Eric Coly, founder and CEO of AYANA Therapy, an app designed to provide accessible and appropriate mental health care services to marginalized groups. Traditional therapy has mostly catered to the needs of Western societies, and therefore people of color and other minorities have not had access to therapy that is relevant and comfortable for them. Eric describes their service as a combination between Uber and online dating where users are matched with a therapist of their choice. We discuss the obstacles of cost, stigma and the lack of cultural competency among providers and he explains how his business is addressing and overcoming these issues. Without a background in psychology and counselling, Eric explains why he started looking into the availability of mental health services and how his own experience and those of his friends shaped his vision for finding an alternative solution. Taking care of our mental health is of course super relevant for us artists, so don…
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Apr 25, 2019
Ep. 45: Going All The Way
We are taking this episode to catch all our listeners up on what we have been up to recently and chat about a few things on the top of our minds. We run through the new movie about Mötley Crüe and Sourdough's experience meeting Jeff Tremaine, the man behind the Jackass franchise. From there, the conversation turns to photography, cameras and early experiences of taking analog photos. We look back at a history of racking film and cologne and the profitable way you could make these work for you as a young graffiti artist with some industry. We also discuss what sex positions our parents might have been in when we were conceived. After which, we turn to hip hop, music, and cultural development in the last 30 years. We discuss the art of sampling and how this opened up a universe of music for hip hop heads and lament the current state of hip hop and why it's impossible to stay up to date with everything these days. For this and a whole lot more, join us today on the Not Real Art Podcast!…
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Apr 25, 2019
Ep. 46: Waxing Poetic About Death + Other Fun Stuff
Welcome back to the Not Real Art Podcast where we get to wax lyrical about all things art and all things not. Today we are making east coasters super jealous about LA weather and reminding everyone just how unpredictable and adaptable Mother Earth is despite our best, or worst, efforts. Our cynical hosts pitch some ideas for TV shows and books set in a not too distant dystopia and come to the conclusion that humans are generally just greedy animals that don't care about much else. We ruminate on stand-up comedy and what it takes to be funny in public before discussing drinking with the Irish and the professional sport of slapping. From there the conversation turns to Man One's vivid memory of his dad drunk and what it is like being drunk in front of your family. We also discuss fake IDs and the new laws that are being implemented in terms of licenses and 'real ID's and the after effects of 9/11 on this and gun laws. For all this and a bunch more good stuff, be sure to tune in! Key Po…
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Apr 25, 2019
Ep. 47: Special Guest: Kristin Juel of Juel Concepts
On today's episode of the Not Real Art Podcast, Sourdough is joined by Kristin Juel, who runs Juel Concepts, an artist management company for musicians with an exciting small roster of youngish indie musical artists including Hamish Anderson andRuby Velle & the Soulphonics. Kristin and Sourdough actually worked together for quite a few years a while back at Kaiser Permanente and have been friends for more than 15 years! They chat about their history together, life in brand management and the commitment it takes to make it in the creative world today. They discuss the tools of the trade, her team at Juel Concepts and just how exciting it is getting to work with people with as much talent as her current artist roster. Kristin has strived to build a family environment with her company and close knit team, and she unpacks the challenges and rewards she has faced in this pursuit. The conversation also covers networking, promotion and why it is so important to be able to articulate yourself…
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Mar 22, 2019
Ep. 44: Jeff Tremaine Talks Motley Crue, Big Brother + Jackass
Today on the show we are joined by Jeff Tremaine. Jeff is most famously known for the Jackass Series. He has also directed several music videos and commercials, including “Epic Night,” a 2014 Super Bowl commercial for Bud Light, which was one of the most talked about spots of the entire year and won numerous awards. In April 2014, Jeff launched his own production company, Gorilla Flicks, which houses all of his feature film and television projects. He has a new movie coming out on March 22nd, The Dirt, on Netflix. In this episode Jeff shares more about his inspiration behind choosing his latest project, how he went about seeking out support from the band, and what the pitch was like to Netflix. We also dive into some of the most challenging and most interesting projects that Jeff has done, and what his personal hobbies are that help him unwind. Jeff is an all around awesome dude, so stay tuned and don’t miss out on our incredible conversation! Key Points From This Episode: Wha…
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Mar 22, 2019
Ep. 43: Making Regionrat with Filmmakers Javier Reyna + Richard Laskowski
The Making of Regionrat, With Javier Reyna and Richard Laskowski On this episode we chat with Art Director Javier Reyna and writer Richard Laskowski who recently released their film, Regionrat. We talk about where they are from, where they went to school and then get into how the two of them got connected. Richard shares about the circumstances surrounding writing the book, how his writing process never presupposes a specific end result and about mimicking the voices of others before settling into his own. Their film is set in Gary, Indiana, and making the film for them was about depicting the lives of teenagers in the region whose parents are often absent and unaware of the implications of not providing guidance in these crucial adolescent years. What also emerges from our conversation is that movie making is not always glamourous. They faced immense challenges in producing a film on a tight budget and had obstacles with funding and people who never came through on their promises. The…
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Mar 10, 2019
Ep. 42: Jorge Gutierrez: No Short Cuts to Success
Today’s episode is really special because we have Emmy Award winner Jorge Gutierrez with us. Jorge is a Mexican animator, painter, writer and director who, along with his wife Sandra Equihua, created the multiple Annie and Emmy Award winning animated television series, El Tigre: The Adventures of Manny Rivera, for Nickelodeon. Born in Mexico City and raised in Tijuana, Jorge has completed various films, cartoons, illustrations and paintings exploring his love affair with Mexican pop and folk culture. With an unmistakable can-do attitude, Jorge shares how he views feedback as an opportunity to improve and how he has learned to put his ego aside during the alchemical process of working through and incorporating the suggestions of others. He explains what he finds challenging about working for someone else and why he is willing to play any part in the film production process to serve the greater vision. We also dive into the invaluable lessons he’s learned at art school, how hi…
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Feb 27, 2019
Ep. 41: Scott Zimbler, Founder of Home Brew Digital Marketing Agency
Digital Marketing in the World of Film, With Scott Zimbler. Today on Not Real Art we are joined by our friend, Scott Zimbler, founder of the Home Brew Agency here in LA. Scott works with some of the most creative people in the film industry and has designed digital advertising content for blockbusters such as The Lego Movie and Fantastic Beasts. We have a conversation about his employment history, including his time at Electronic Arts and Paramount Pictures, and we discuss how the design landscape has changed over the last few years. Scott tells us about being one of the early advocates of the Internet in the 90s, navigating the power struggle between game designers and marketers and why he believes marketing is in his DNA. In talking about his company, Scott reveals a profound commitment to art and authenticity and establishing a healthy home-work balance for his employees. He shares about the importance of trust, instituting sabbatical programs and building into the career developmen…
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Feb 27, 2019
Ep. 40: Protecting Your Art with Ilya Kushnirsky, IP Attorney
Today on the show we are joined by our friend, Ilya Kushnirsky, who is an intellectual property attorney. His firm, KG Law in New York City, services artists and creatives almost exclusively, having helped many grateful individuals with issues of IP theft and infringement over the years! Ilya is a speaker at our upcoming Not Real Art Conference and this little discussion serves as an introduction to some of his forthcoming presentation. We chat about copyrights, trademarks and all things art law. Ilya shares his ideas on staying affordable for people who are not traditionally rolling in money, how to protection yourself against the epidemic of infringement and ways to move the legal needle in your direction. Remember to get you tickets for the conference and join us for this very important conversation today! Key Points From This Episode: Some background on KG Law and why they chose their particular path. Controversial cases and setting precedents in art legalities. Working with sma…
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Feb 24, 2019
Ep. 39: Artists JonMarc + Ando Pndlian Talk FLUTTER
Using Language As an Abstract Tool for Communication Through Art, With JonMarc Edwards and Ando Love. JonMarc studied art at the Minneapolis College of Art and Design where he was drawn to the study of symbols and what they mean. Today he is the owner of MARKET Studio, an exhibition and performance space that focuses on immersive installations, performances, and literary events. Our second guest, Ando Pndlian, is the founder of the Search + ResQ Gallery, which is a multi-disciplinary design studio based in Los Angeles. They implement process driven design with a clear understanding of goals to support creative solutions for meaningful design. Inside this episode we dive into the experience of FLUTTER, an immersive installation that empowers participants to interact and make sense of the linguistic fabric that is all-around us. We also unpack how language and letters can be broken down in an abstract manner, and how to use art as a form of communication across languages and cultural bar…
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Jan 1, 2019
Ep. 38: Art Basel Miami Edition Pt. 2
Welcome to Not Real Art, Siri’s favorite creative culture podcast! Today’s episode is another holiday edition special, where we dive into everything from family traditions, favorite Christmas time memories, how Sourdough first got his nickname, and more stories about our time at Art Basal. The conversation touches on our different feelings and experiences at Wynwood, Untitled, and SCOPE, and the disconnect that is so apparent between the art fair versus Wynwood crowds. We also share our favorite and most outstanding pieces that we’ve seen throughout all the art events, and some of the incredible galleries taking risks and really killing it on the art scene. Finally, we dig into the concept of corporatization of the art and what it will mean for the future of artists and the art industry as a whole. For all this and an incredible conversation, stay tuned to today’s episode! Key Points From This Episode: The Man One Family holiday traditions. Understanding how art has become a m…
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Dec 29, 2018
Ep. 37: Art Basel Miami Edition Pt. 1
Welcome back to the Not Real Art Podcast for this special holiday episode! Today on the show we start off with a little recap of what we’ve been up to lately, our recent projects, and new endeavors that we’ve taken on. We then jump into discussing Man One’s new breakthroughs in the Latino Artist space, the crazy culture of the non-stop life in Miami, missed flights, and the experience of staying in Little Havana. The conversation takes us through our time at Art Basel in Miami exploring the culture, attending some interesting events, and learning what it takes to be relevant in this day and age. We end it off by analyzing the impact social media has truly had on the authenticity of mainstream events, and how product marketing has shifted with the change in technology. Finally, we share some wild ride stories that will give you a good laugh and an overview of what our Miami experience was all about. For all this and more, stay tuned to today’s episode. Key Points From This Episo…
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Dec 22, 2018
Ep. 36: Special Guest Hosts from ABC's The Rookie
This episode is a bit different, because our usual partner in crime and regular cohost, Man One, can’t be here today. Instead, we’ve asked a couple of friends from the entertainment business to come in and co-host the show. So, in this episode we are joined by Eric Winter and Jon Steinberg. Eric is a successful actor, producer, and children’s book author who’s currently playing Officer Bradford on ABC’s The Rookie. Jon is a former actor turned entrepreneur and is the creator and executive producer of The Rookie. Inside this episode we dive into what brings us together as artists, no matter what medium you work in and how we all face similar challenges. We also dive into real life stories of a carjacking, an intense police car ride-along through a gang Christmas party, and new story ideas for The Rookie that encompasses the world of graffiti artists. We end it off by discussing Eric and Jon’s new projects and what it means to live a lifestyle that celebrates the arts and sup…
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Dec 18, 2018
Ep. 035: Special Edition | Surprise Guest Host
On the show today we are welcoming Heidi Johnson of Hijinx PR in Los Angeles. Man One is unfortunately missing in action today but never fear, we still have a great, free-wheeling show for all of you dedicated listeners out there! First off we chat about the upcoming DesignerCon, which we are super excited about and hear from Heidi about how she is involved and what to expect. From there we look at some of the other conventions Heidi helps organize and she also gives us some great stories from a recent trip to Chicago for an event remembering the history of the Black Panthers. The episode then takes a decidedly political turn and we dig into the recent mass shooting in Thousand Oaks, the LA fires and the spectrum of political views as they are spread across the country. We finish thinking about ways in which the US might be able to overcome the huge divides that we currently see between the left and right, Trump supporters and critics and ultimately find a way towards a more functionin…
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Oct 31, 2018
Ep.034: NOT REAL ART Club Opens in L.A.
In this episode, Man One and Sourdough discuss the launch of it's new monthly event series, NOT REAL ART Club in L.A. (Tickets Available at www.NotRealArt.com)
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ABOUT NOT REAL ART
NOT REAL ART isn’t your prototypical art program produced by art snobs in an ivory tower.
NOT REAL ART is an artist-centric talk show for a new generation. NOT REAL ART serves its creative culture fresh, raw and unfiltered straight from the front-lines as it celebrates artists and calls B.S. on the art world!
Long-time friends, collaborators and artists, Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power bring their unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing their mutual love — and hate — for art and culture.
Sourdough and Man One’s unique dynamic creates the kind of entertaining back-and-forth only two great friends can share as they discuss the news, stories, people and events of the interesting, curious, provocative and entertaining world of Creative Culture.
NOT REAL ART is produced and distribut…
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Oct 31, 2018
Ep.033: How To Make Art History
In this episode 33 , your hosts Man One and Sourdough discuss the secret to making art history.
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ABOUT NOT REAL ART
NOT REAL ART isn’t your prototypical art program produced by art snobs in an ivory tower.
NOT REAL ART is an artist-centric talk show for a new generation. NOT REAL ART serves its creative culture fresh, raw and unfiltered straight from the front-lines as it celebrates artists and calls B.S. on the art world!
Long-time friends, collaborators and artists, Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power bring their unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing their mutual love — and hate — for art and culture.
Sourdough and Man One’s unique dynamic creates the kind of entertaining back-and-forth only two great friends can share as they discuss the news, stories, people and events of the interesting, curious, provocative and entertaining world of Creative Culture.
NOT REAL ART is produced and distributed by Crewest Studio in Los Angeles.
About the Hosts
Scott “…
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Oct 31, 2018
Ep.032: Sourdough Survives Burning Man + Tells All
In episode 32, Sourdough wants to tell all about his first trip to Burning Man but Man One doesn't seem to care. Thankfully Sourdough tells all anyway!
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ABOUT NOT REAL ART
NOT REAL ART isn’t your prototypical art program produced by art snobs in an ivory tower.
NOT REAL ART is an artist-centric talk show for a new generation. NOT REAL ART serves its creative culture fresh, raw and unfiltered straight from the front-lines as it celebrates artists and calls B.S. on the art world!
Long-time friends, collaborators and artists, Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power bring their unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing their mutual love — and hate — for art and culture.
Sourdough and Man One’s unique dynamic creates the kind of entertaining back-and-forth only two great friends can share as they discuss the news, stories, people and events of the interesting, curious, provocative and entertaining world of Creative Culture.
NOT REAL ART is produced and distributed by Cr…
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Oct 30, 2018
Ep.031: Much To Do About Everything
In this episode, hosts Man One and Sourdough rant and rave about a myriad of topics ranging from the new Quincy Jones documentary to Mexican Culture, unprofessional artists to bad customer service, from banking to monopolies, Nordstroms to Verizon, from automation to porn, and on and on and on and on.
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ABOUT NOT REAL ART
NOT REAL ART isn’t your prototypical art program produced by art snobs in an ivory tower.
NOT REAL ART is an artist-centric talk show for a new generation. NOT REAL ART serves its creative culture fresh, raw and unfiltered straight from the front-lines as it celebrates artists and calls B.S. on the art world!
Long-time friends, collaborators and artists, Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power bring their unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing their mutual love — and hate — for art and culture.
Sourdough and Man One’s unique dynamic creates the kind of entertaining back-and-forth only two great friends can share as they discuss the news, stories,…
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Sep 26, 2018
Ep. 30: Hawaii, Homelessness & Jeff Koons
In this episode, Man One and Sourdough discuss how travel and environment inspire artists and influence their art.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art snob. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots of laughs along the way!
The Not Real Art podcast is produced and distributed by Crewest…
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Sep 26, 2018
Ep. 29: Sourdough Makes A Burning Confession
In this episode, Sourdough confesses something big and Man One doesn't like it.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art snob. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots of laughs along the way!
The Not Real Art podcast is produced and distributed by Crewest Studio in Los Angeles.
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Sep 26, 2018
Ep. 27/28: Working with Agencies (A Horror Story)
In this episode, hosts Man One and Sourdough go deep on the perils of artists working with brands and agencies. They explore the dysfunctional relationship agencies have clients and freelancers and what it can mean for artists who try to work with them. Man One and Sourdough discuss how to manage professional disappointment and the emotional fallout when clients screw you -- and they will.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real…
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Sep 26, 2018
Ep. 26: The Gong Show, The Ortiz Brothers + Collecting Illegal Debts
In this episode 26, your hosts Man One and Sourdough discuss the books How To Collect Illegal Debts and Graphic Guide to Infectious Disease. Also, they reminisce about their favorite game shows of the 1970s and Man One's dad appearance on The Gong Show and winning!
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art snob. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy…
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Sep 26, 2018
Ep. 25: Red Wine & Blood Don't Mix
In this episode, your hosts Man One and Sourdough discuss the perils of parenting.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art snob. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots of laughs along the way!
The Not Real Art podcast is produced and distributed by Crewest Studio in Los Angeles.
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Sep 25, 2018
Ep. 24: Donate Your Body to Art
In this episode 24, Sourdough ponders donating his body to art. Also, Sourdough's 5 year old daughter Eden crashes the recording session to become the second guest to be on the podcast.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art snob. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots of laughs along the…
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Sep 25, 2018
Ep. 23: VIP Guest: Photographer Bryan "Birdman" Mier
In episode 23, Man One and Sourdough host their first VIP guest, photographer extraordinaire Bryan "Birdman" Mier. Hear how the one L.A. artists call "Birdman" became the go-to photographer in L.A. Learn how Birdman went from teaching himself how to use a camera to shooting celebrities for TMZ, the hottest graffiti artists, street artists, gallery openings and art scene parties in Los Angeles and around the world.
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ABOUT NOT REAL ART
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will…
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Sep 25, 2018
Ep. 22: Librarians Love Man One (So Hard)
In episode 22, your hosts Man One and Sourdough discusses Man One's trip to New Orleans to attend American Library Association Annual Conference and accept this Siebert Award Honor for his work illustrating the children's book, Roy Choi and The Street Food Re-Mix
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy…
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Aug 2, 2018
Ep. 21: The Art of Making Sourdough
In this episode, your host Man One learns why 'Mr. X", his co-host and creator of Not Real Art, is adopting the pseudonym "Sourdough" for the show. Plus, they talk shit about airsoft guns and grown men playing war games.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots…
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Aug 1, 2018
Ep. 20: When Mars Attacks
Episode 20 of Not Real Art covers a lot ground. From Socrates to Trump, fortune cookies to prostate exams and Mexicans to Gay Doctors, hosts "Mr. X" and Man One end up on Mars with this one.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But like art itself, it’s appeal will vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots of laughs along the way!
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Aug 1, 2018
Ep. 19: The Genius of Donald Glover (aka Childish Gambino)
In episode 19 of Not Real Art, Sourdough calls out Man One on the messy state of his studio as they discuss the genius of Donald Glover (aka Childish Gambino), sweatshops, Mexican Mother's Day and the magical talent and cardistry of "Not A Real Artist" Anna DeGuzman. Shout outs to: Anna DeGuzman, Graffiti The City, Mark Brickey, Donald Glover
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Aug 1, 2018
Ep. 18: The Shady Art World
In episode 18 of Not Real Art, your hosts call out corruption in the art world, discuss some of the ways artists get ripped off and why artists must know their bottom line.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots of laughs along the way!
Each…
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Aug 1, 2018
Ep. 17: The Art of Teaching Parabolas
In episode 17, NRA Man One and Sourdough hosts discuss the importance of good teachers and the art of teaching while they reminisce about school day memories. Shout outs to: Mr. Preston, Mr. Livingston and Double Dose Twins
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of co…
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Aug 1, 2018
Ep. 16: The Real Story of Crewest Art Gallery (2002-2012)
In this episode #16, Man One and "Mr.X" clarify and document the origin story of ground-breaking art gallery Crewest which Man One founded in Los Angeles, curating over 100 exhibitions during its ten year history, 2002-2012
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Aug 1, 2018
Ep. 015: Culture Vultures
In this episode, Man One and "Mr. X" call out corporate culture vulture Windex and discuss how artists innovate for the sake of their artistic vision and drive innovation in technology. Shout outs to: @Marka_27 and @Klopsito
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Aug 1, 2018
Ep. 014: Slimy Artists Get Paid
In this episode of NOT REAL ART, your hosts discuss the phenomena
of "artist" Karina Garcia and they too can get paid being slimy.
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Aug 1, 2018
Ep. 013: Beyond The Streets + Roger Gastman
In episode 13, your hosts Man One and "Mr.X" critique the graffiti art show Beyond the Streets curated by Roger Gastman.
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Aug 1, 2018
Ep. 012: Artists, Art Fairs + Red Dots
In this episode, your hosts breakdown art fairs and the role they play in the lives of artists and galleries.
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Aug 1, 2018
Ep. 011: Librarians, Porno + Mr. X
In this episode, your hosts explore the art of good naming, quilting and porno.
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Jul 20, 2018
Ep. 010: Tacos, Doughuts + Danny Trejo
In episode 10, your hosts discuss their #1 fan Siri, the dark web, Danny Trejo, doughnuts, the movie Heat, Salma Hayek, Johnnie Walker, real art and starving artists
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots of laughs along the way!
Each episode i…
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Jul 20, 2018
Ep. 009: Prince, Public Enemy + Instagram
In episode 9, your hosts discuss Prince, Public Enemy, Chuck D, Coolio, movies, IG, Microsoft, Marka27, Gajin Fujita, Codak Smith, Kook and Revok.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots of laughs along the way!
Each episode is approx. 15-30 m…
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Jul 20, 2018
Ep. 008: Graffiti vs. Street Art
In this episode, your hosts discuss graffiti culture, street art, labels, cultural appropriation and art schools.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots of laughs along the way!
Each episode is approx. 15-30 minutes long, because Sourdough an…
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Jul 20, 2018
Ep. 007: Racism, Marriage + Melania Trump
In episode 7, your hosts Man One and Sourdough discuss marriage, divorce, Melania Trump, globalism, racism, civil rights, global warming, humanism, hope, street art and graffiti.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots of laughs along the way!…
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Jul 20, 2018
Ep. 006: Making Money, Selling Out + Coca-Cola
In episode 6 of Not Real Art, your hosts Man One and Sourdough discuss Siri, Coca-Cola, The Business of Art, clients, selling out, the failure of art schools, ghetto birds, artist exploitation, business tips for artists and legendary artist Overton Loyd.
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ABOUT THE SHOW
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott “Sourdough” Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corr…
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Jun 29, 2018
Ep. 005: Misdemeanors, Felonies + DJ Kaled
In episode 5 of Not Real Art, your hosts Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power discuss felonies and misdemeanors, anonymity, rock stars and artists, DJ Kaled, The Business of Art, commercial art vs. fine art, Los Diablos, Hip Hop Culture, The POC Struggle, Racial Profiling, Paul Stanley and KISS.
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ABOUT NOT REAL ART
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary arti…
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Jun 29, 2018
Ep. 004: Bible Belts + Holy Smokes
In this episode, your hosts Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power discuss Real Art vs. Not Real Art, Socrate's Gadfly, The Myth of Being an Artist, Their Daughters, Soccer, Scholarships, Appeasing The Gods, Born Again Pagans, Evangelicals, Bible Belts and Holy Smokes, and much more.
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ABOUT NOT REAL ART
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while call…
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Jun 7, 2018
Ep. 003: Kanye, Trump + Chicanos
In this episode, your hosts Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power discuss Kanye West, Donald Trump, OJ, Bill Cosby, racism, white privilege, gender profiling, smoke buddies and the difference between being Chicano vs. Latino vs Hispanic.
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ABOUT NOT REAL ART
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art…
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Jun 7, 2018
Ep. 002: Roy Choi + The Matrix
In this episode of Not Real Art, your hosts Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power discuss Fame vs. Fortune, L.A. artist/chef Roy Choi, graffiti art in children's books, Readers-To-Eaters Publishing Co, Red Pills vs. Blue Pills and much more.
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ABOUT NOT REAL ART
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Mr. X are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course…
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Jun 7, 2018
Ep. 001: Debut Show. No Prep. No Experience. Lots of Fun.
In this premier episode, your hosts Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power introduce their new podcast, discuss their motivations and vision for Not Real Art while also discussing life in L.A., flying cars, Elon Musk, mortality and meteorites.
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ABOUT NOT REAL ART
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Scott "Sourdough" Power are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the…
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May 21, 2018
Not Real Art Promo by Siri
Thanks for the promo Siri!
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ABOUT NOT REAL ART
Not Real Art is for everyone. But, like art itself, it’s appeal will most definitely vary.
Long-time collaborators, creators and hosts, Man One and Mr. X are proud of Not Real Art’s unique, devil-may-care approach to discussing the current state of contemporary art and culture.
If you’re looking for an over intellectualized high brow podcast about contemporary art produced in an ivory tower, Not Real Art isn’t for you. But, if you prefer your cultural fare raw and unfiltered from the front-lines, Not Real Art will definitely suffice.
Not Real Art is pro-artist and anti-art world. Not Real Art aims to celebrate and elevate contemporary artists while calling out hypocrisy and corruption in the art world. Of course, we'll have lots of laughs along the way!
Each episode is approx. 15-30 minutes long, because Mr. X and Man One understand your time is super valuable. They also upload several episodes at once so you can binge listen…
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