Shay Michael chats with Govert Schilling, a Dutch popular science writer and amateur astronomer, on his latest book, The Elephant in the Universe, Our Hundred-Year Search for Dark Matter.

In the episode, Schilling details his experiences meeting with scientists around the world and conversing with them on the fascinating experiments they've devised for the search of the elusive dark matter particle. He also tells about the elusiveness of the dark matter theory, which has led some scientists to believe that "there might be something wrong with our theories about gravity or with the current paradigms of cosmology."

This and much more in the interview with Govert Schilling on The HoliShay Anthology Podcast.