Get Rich Education
Get Rich Education
Feb 17, 2020
280: Your Questions: Housing Bubble, Inspections, Student Loans, Report Cards
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Before you buy a property, I discuss something crucial that you’re probably missing.

Five of your listener questions are answered. 

(The entire episode’s lyrics are in the Show Notes below!)

1 - How should I reward my child for their good school report card?

2 - How reliable is a real estate income stream?

3 - Are we in a housing bubble?

4 - Should you pay off $200K in student loans or invest?

5 - Should I get an inspection for a new construction property?

“Packaged commodities investing” is a way to think of real estate.

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Welcome to Get Rich Education. I’m your host, Keith Weinhold - answering your listener questions today. How do you reward your child for a good school Report Card? What about the long-term DURABILITY of a real estate income stream? 

Are we in a Housing Bubble? What should I do - pay off student loan debt - or invest? Should I get a Home Inspection? And what’s the one thing you should do before you buy ANY property that you’re probably not doing? 

All today - and more … on Get Rich Education. 

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Welcome to GRE. I’m your host, Keith Weinhold. From Colombo, Sri Lanka to Columbia, South Carolina to Columbus, Ohio and across 188 nations worldwide. 

This is Get Rich Education. 

We’re having my favorite guest on the show today. That guest is you! Because I’m here with your listener questions today!

The first one concerns a kid’s school report card and then the rest are about real estate investing. 

Rebecca from Los Angeles, California asks, Keith:

What reward should I give to my 11-year-old son, Mason, for having a good report card at school - all As and Bs? I love your show, keep up the great work.

Well, thanks, Rebecca. I love this question. Even though we’re largely a real estate investing show, I think there can be so many lessons about life for your 11-year-old son, Mason here.

The reward you can give them for their good report card is cash. Tell Mason that he’s getting $100 - or maybe it’s $40. But in any case, let’s just stick with the $100 example.

Divide it in half. 

Tell him that he’s getting $50 in cash.

And tell Mason that, as a bonus for later, another $50 is going to be invested for him.

Over time, Mason will probably see that the invested $50 grew and the $50 that he spent on video games or whatever didn’t.

But see, he still gets rewarded with “short-term” fun. That way, it’s not ALL delayed gratification.

As you know, the abundance mentality isn’t about either / ors, it’s about “ands”. 

 

This way, he can have his cake and eat it too. What good is cake if you can’t eat it?

 

Now, I didn’t say that he had to SPEND the $50 cash part of this. $50 gets invested - and you’ll have the fun of keeping Mason updated on his investment over time. 

 

He can do whatever he wants with the $50 cash part. And over time, if he sees the invested portion gained value, he might choose to actually invest some or all of the $50 cash reward too.

 

But for now, let’s be realistic - he wants to spend his $50 cash on Minecraft or Fortnite or the latest release of Grand Theft Auto. A video game like that.

 

That’s fine. You need to let him be rewarded now - because that might incentivize more near-term good school performance - which is what you value seeing in Mason.

 

Thanks for the question, Rebecca.

 

Now, before I move onto the next question. There’s … I think … a real extrapolation here for you, the adult listener, with the way I recommended that Mason’s report card could be rewarded.

 

Really, there’s a real estate investing lesson there. Mason gets rewarded both now & later.

 

A employer-sponsored retirement plan punishes you now by reducing your salary and make you delay gratification.

 

Real estate investing reduces your salary now - in way - when you make your down payment. But it begins returning that to you in the form of cash flow now - and gives you the asset appreciation for later.

 

As you know, I’m not in love with the term “delayed gratification”. Now, I do think there’s a little something to be said for it.

 

When I made my first-ever property that four-plex building where I lived in one unit and rented out the other three, I could have bought a nicer SFH. So I delayed some gratification there.

 

I see some investors buy-in to “delayed gratification” so much that I wonder how long their postponing happiness and if they’ll EVER find it.

 

Sometimes, people get shocking reminders of this, but they soon forget it. I know this hits close to home for an Angelino like you, but you think about 41-year-old Kobe Bryant and his daughter Gianna being taken away from the world a few weeks ago.

 

There are really all kinds of analogies for life here. Sometimes “later” becomes “never”.

 

Would you say that IF 11-year-old Mason spent half his report card reward - the cash half - if he spent it all on video games, would you say that he “blew that money” - that he “wasted that money”. I don’t know.

 

What about you - the adult listener. Sometimes I hear people say that you should save all your moeny and not “blow it on a vacation” - as if you squandered money if you went on a vacation.

 

I don’t know that that’s necessary true.

 

Look, what is money for? What if you’ve wanted to travel to tour the beautiful Croatian coast or see glaciers in Greenland.

 

How can a person say that you’re necessarily “blowing your money” if you go out and to that.

 

You’re getting out and seeing the very world that you live in. You’re living the life you’ve dreamed of. What would you want to do any less?

 

Most people just don’t have a vehicle - they don’t know about a durable vehicle like real estate that pays them so many ways - both today & tomorrow.

 

See, a lot of investment promoters WANT you to delay gratification. 

 

They oversell that stance. They’re selfish. They want you to invest your money with them so they get the sale first and that they get the commission first and that they get the referral fee first.

 

They’ve convinced you that paying yourself first … means investing with them first … so that you can accumulate dollars in an account with your name on it so that you can only then consume it in years or decades.

 

Use your dollars in years or decades? That’s not paying yourself first. How did that get to be paying yourself first? It’s because that promoter of salesperson is only thinking of themselves first.

 

There’s something to be said for delayed gratification, yes.

 

But delayed gratification should not be a permanent condition.

 

When are you really going to start living the life you’ve always wanted? The year 2052? Or do you have a plan to compound your cash flows so that you can do that in three years.

 

You know that that’s the big reason - the #1 reason for me, in fact - that I don’t care for conventional retirement plans. 

 

They only invest for later instead of both now & later like cash-flowing real assets do.

 

Now, I don’t think you’re going to find it self-redeeming if you go broke trying to LOOK rich with ostentatious displays and classic CAR status symbols like the Lambo - unless that’s sustainable for you. Then … that’s great.

 

So be gratified both now & later. Give Mason cash - half now, half turned into an investment that you make for him.

 

And to 11-year-old Mason, if you listen to this now, I know you might want all $100 bucks right now. Most 11-year-olds would.

 

If you listen to this in 2030 when you’re age 21, you still might not understand.

If you listen to this in 2040 when you’re age 31, it’ll probably all make sense.

 

Thanks for the question about your son Mason, Rebecca.

 

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The next question comes from Gerald in - Oxnard, CA - that’s just up The 405 and 101 - west from L.A. where our last listener inquiry was from.

 

I went through Oxnard on my last drive from L.A. to Santa Barbara.

 

Gerald writes. “Keith, thanks for your show. Nobody anywhere makes real estate investing more clear. It’s my favorite 40 minutes of the week.” 

 

Now, see, with a comment like this, it really increases your chances that I’m going to read your question on-air here, Gerald from Calabasas.  :o)

 

He asks, you discuss the importance of multiple income streams. 

How PROVEN do you think that real estate income streams are long-term. How do I know it will still perform as an asset class for me in 30 years?

Thanks for the question, Gerald. I know I’ve discussed elsewhere that people are going to keep needing a place to live, like they have for centuries or millennia now - and that inflation is the long-term trend and your long-term friend for a leveraged real estate investor. 

It’s also what makes your cash flow rise faster than inflation since rents move up with inflation but your principal & interest cost doesn’t - it stays fixed.

So, I’m going to take this in a different direction, Gerald. You’re asking about the durability of real estate an asset class and I think it’s a good question. 

I recently had another listener write in to me about a concept that … I’ve thought about it before but I never heard it articulated in such an elegant way. And, I’m sorry that I don’t remember this listener’s name.

But she referred to real estate investing as “Packaged commodities investing”.

I love the … ingenious thought of packaged commodities investing.

When you buy a rental home, yes, you’re buying the cost of the utility and the construction labor. 

But think about those materials in the home, those commodities - you now own brick, lumber, glass, copper wire, styrofoam insulation, granite, ceramic, paint, oil in the roof shingles, masonry, concrete, rebar, you own an HVAC system - every one of these individual commodity components are hedges against inflation. 

Gerald, a while ago, Reddit had a trending article over these Do-It-Yourself Houses that Sears used to sell over a hundred years ago.

Look, this is fascinating -

I’ve got this one-page ad in front of me - it looks like a newspaper ad. It’s for Sears Roebuck and company from the year 1913. 

This ad - that’s more than 100 years old - is interesting to any investor or economist - or marketer even. 

This ad is for - like a kit you can buy where you help construct the home. Let me read it to you.

It says, “By allowing a fair price for labor, cement, brick and plaster, which we, Sears, do not furnish, this house can be built for about $1,530 - including all material and labor!

Now, this looks like a small, single family home plan that Sears was offering you here, back in 1913. I can’t quickly find the square footage on it - say it was 1,500 sf.

So, you’re buying this house over a hundred years ago, for say a dollar per square foot then.

They show you the flooring layout plan. This is a livable-looking place, complete with a nice, wide porch. It’s not a tiny home.

Ha - this is so quaint!

The Sears ad goes onto say, for $872 (which is more than half of your all-in cost of $1,500 that I just mentioned) - we will furnish ALL of the material to build this 6-Room bungalow …

… consisting of mill work, siding, flooring, ceiling, finishing lumber, building paper, pipe, gutter, sash weights, hardware, painting material, lumber, lath, and shingles.

NO EXTRAS - is in all caps. We guarantee enough material at this $872 price to build this house according to our plans.

So that was $872 for the material - and then, remember, your all-in price with labor and everything else is the $1,530. 

This home, that’s giving us some historical commodity and real estate PRICING perspective here - doesn’t look like a piece of junk.

Reading on - the large porch is sheltered by the projection of the upper story and supported with massive built-up square columns. 

A unique triple-window in the attic and fancy leaded art glass windows add much to this pleasing design. Ha! That’s all I’ll read from the ad. 

So … I think this is representative of this concept of “packaged commodities investing” that a listener introduced me to. 

It tells us a lot about monetary inflation, and at the same time - it speaks to the durability of residential real estate as an investment.  

This IS less sexy than the “five ways you’re paid” stuff here. We’re just looking at an element of durability here.

When you have direct ownership of rental property, you simultaneously own all of these vital commodities. You own a basket of products.

You’ll see this Sears ad linked in the Show Notes. It’s fascinating to see.

And a lot of home construction here in the 2020s decade is still done largely the same way that it was decades ago.

3-D printed homes are not being adopted into the mainstream. Now, if they do, that could lower labor costs. 

You’d still need to add a lot of things to make a 3-D printed residence livable - components and penetrations and mechanicals and the  - all those commodities we mentioned, plus, you’ve got the cost of the land. 

Decently-located land, is a commodity in itself - and IT’S of a limited supply.

By the way, this is a learning show, and the first definition of the word “commodity” when I Google it, is: “A raw material or primary agricultural product that can be bought and sold, such as copper or coffee.” That definition is from Oxford.

Ha - they even have copper as the first example - and you expect to own copper with each home that you buy.

I think yet another angle to your question, Gerald, about the durability of where your income stream comes from - is that we focus on RESIDENTIAL properties here.

As the office and retail real estate sectors KEEP feeling pain - residential has become even more important at the same time - and you already know all the reasons -  more people can work from home, order products from home, and do more from home than they ever have before. 

AirBnB properties might work in the short run, but we haven’t yet seen what happens to them in a recession yet - and as we know, the short-term rental market cater to business travelers and vacationers - and durability is what you need your income stream to have.

That’s why, for durability reasons, I favor long-term residential investing above all else … and love to consider the elegance of this “packaged commodities investing”. 

Thanks for the great question, Gerald from Oxnard, CA.

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The next question comes from Andrew in Ridgefield, Connecticut.

 

Keith,

 

I have been listening to your podcast for a while. Your mindset resonates with mine.

 

I am a small animal Veterinarian, I own - and run - my own small animal hospital.

 

On the investment side...….I have a balanced Wall street portfolio (Stock, Bond, Mutual Funds). On the Real estate side I have a $280 cash flowing SFR, and am involved in some multifamily Syndications.

 

I wrestle with Buying more SFR properties vs. more syndications. 

 

I feel that since money is so cheap in today's economic climate there is not much room for appreciation when buying RE. Should I sit on the sidelines and wait? (wait for Blood in the Streets?)

 

I like the Tampa area...but go back and forth with my thought process.

 

I look forward to hearing from you.

 

Signed, Andrew (his last name), DVM - DVM is Doctor Of Veterinary Medicine, BTW

 

Yeah, it is interesting that I’ve noticed a good deal of doctors & dentists listen to Get Rich Education. But I doubt that it’s #1.

 

Anecdotally, I’ve noticed that for some reason, we seem to have a really high proportion of listeners that are in LAW enforcement - like police officers & such.

 

Thanks for the question, Andrew, veterinarian from Connecticut.

 

On the first part of your question, buying more SFR vs. real estate syndications - that has a lot to do with both your risk tolerance and your desire for passivity.

 

Direct investing, like turnkey investing, does require a little remote administration - even when you’re not the property manager, but you’ve typically got higher returns and you’ve got control - versus a syndication.

 

In many cases, direct investing and that great control actually means you’re more liquid with your funds. 

 

You could sell in a few months if you had to … and with syndications, if you’re in Year 2 of an apartment syndication where it’s 7 years until that deal matures … then good luck getting your money out. You can’t access it.

 

So, those are some more of the trade-offs between direct investing & syndications.

 

Ah, I know you wrote that money is still cheap - meaning that interest rates are low and that you think that might be an indicator that appreciation has run its course.

 

Well, I’m still buying direct property, where I own the deed. 

 

See, interest rates have basically been low for over a decade and we’ve had appreciation the entire time.

 

Let’s look more recently. In 2018, interest rates really began a march higher and there were some people predicting that it would make housing prices go down. It didn’t. In 2018, national appreciation rates were about 7%.

 

In 2019, mortgage interest rates went lower and appreciation went lower, down to about a 5% annual gain. 

 

Now, yes, there’s a lag effect between mortgage interest rates and pricing too. 

 

But mortgage interest rates are one of - at least 10 different macro factors that effect the price of housing, so one doesn’t lead to the others.

 

There might be more substantial factors skewing the numbers than interest rates affect housing prices.

 

Housing prices can be more affected by things like chronically low supply like we’ve got today, wage growth, job growth, in-migration, birth rates, death rates - and did lending requirements get more stringer or more lax - did credit score requirements get more stringent or more lax and on and on.

 

But you do ask a good question, Andrew. Ah - if I didn’t think it were good, I wouldn’t be answering it here.

 

Now, I know that you didn’t bring up the word bubble.

 

But a few weeks ago, I described why I don’t think we’re in a real estate bubble. Prices are sustainable for a lot of reasons.

 

But on the flip side, I don’t see any scenario in which real estate, nationally, hits any high-flying annual appreciation rates of 10 or 12% anytime soon - like we saw back in 2005 either.

 

Low supply can only push prices so high. Affordability is the component that governs and tempers the upward price escalation. 

 

Affordability is what’s moderating the rate of appreciation rate right now.

 

Of course, whenever we talk about the future, no one REALLY knows what’s going to happen. These are just my thoughts - and the basis and the reasoning for why I have them.

 

You mention that you like Tampa - I do too. I really like so much of Florida - of course, you have to get your submarket right. 

 

And I need to say that’s generally Florida north of Miami - because the numbers don’t work so well in south Florida. 

Around Miami, you just don’t get a higher rent income proportionally to the much higher purchase prices there.

 

Think about this!

When you look at net migration by state for this past year, Texas was 2nd in the U.S., and they had a net in-migration of 190,000 people.

Florida, even though they have a smaller population than Texas, is #1 with 322,000 people. 

Yeah, net 322,000 moving into a smaller state - Florida. And 190,000 into a larger population state - Texas.

Florida has rent-to-value ratios that are favorable.

And as an investor, your property tax rate is substantially lower in Florida than it is in Texas too.  

There are a lot of reasons to like Tampa and Florida. Of course, that’s why we had our real estate field trip there last October in Tampa … as well.

Thanks for the question, Andrew!

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Two more listener questions today. What should you do first, pay off your student loan debt or invest …

… and I need to tell you why you should always get a property inspection before you buy a property - and do one other crucial thing - before you buy property - that you may not have ever thought about before. 

That’s next. You’re listening to Get Rich Education.

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Hey, you’re back inside Get Rich Education. I’m your host, Keith Weinhold, answering your listener questions today.

 

The next question comes from Dillon in Nebraska - I’m not sure which Nebraska place he’s from. Let’s play the audio: https://www.speakpipe.com/msg/p/120531/30/p15zsoamb252hyob35bvfc8d6uwrqv3ml1yh3h1suwgf6

 

Yeah, thanks, Dillon. And I do consider student loan debt as bad debt because YOU have to pay it back yourself … 

 

… that is, you can’t directly outsource those payments to someone else, like tenants in a rental property where they pay all your mortgage loan interest, all your mortgage loan principal, and hopefully, another couple hundred dollars on top of that called cash flow.

 

Not to mention, Congress passed an act in 2005 which made student loans quite difficult to discharge in bankruptcy.

 

With your question, being basically, “Should I pay off $200K in student loan debt as quickly as possible before starting real estate investing?”

 

Well, the answer ... as it often is, is “It depends.” But I’ll tell ya what it depends on. 

 

The short answer is - if your real estate cash-on-cash return could beat the interest rate on your student loan debt - only then would you invest in real estate and make the minimum student loan debt payment.

 

Now, that was really good insight on the inflation-hedging or even inflation-profiting that long-term debt can provide you. I can tell that you’re a careful listener to the show, Dillon.

 

Of course, that's just one tailwind. Just one consideration.

 

And the reason why inflation-profiting is lower in priority than your cash-on-cash return is that you need liquidity. You need cash to service your student loan debt.

 

I don’t know what your student loan debt INTEREST RATE is. But let’s just say you’re paying a 6% interest rate on that debt.

Now, I understand that it’s really easy to look at all 5 ways that real estate pays you and think - aw, I can get 20, 30, 40, maybe even a 50% ROI when I buy right. 

So I’m just gonna pay the minimum on the student loan debt and plow all the extra into real estate.

I would say, not so fast. Even though that might work out for you, we need to be more conservative …

… because real estate appreciation isn’t liquid, tenant-made loan amortization isn’t liquid, and neither are real estate’s tax benefits or the aforementioned inflation-profiting.

So, to use the simplest example, if your rental gives you $100 of monthly cash flow, which is $1,200 annually - and you’ve got $20K of skin-in-the-game on your rental as down payment and closing costs.

Well, that $1,200 annual cash flow divided by your $20K down is 6%. That’s your Cash-On-Cash Return portion and if you can get THAT at 6% or above, then reduce your student loan paydown dollar-for-dollar for every dollar that you put into real estate.

That’s really the upshot here.

Yes, there are some smaller things to consider. Last time I checked, student loan interest in the United States is a tax deduction up to $2,500 annually. 

So, your 6% interest rate might effectively be 5, 5-and-a-half or whatever it is.

Understand the risk. You don’t want to be left cash poor.

Your TOTAL Rate Of Return on real estate will almost certainly beat your student loan interest rate. But that's not enough. 

Let's be conservative.

To summarize, because you service your loan debt with cash, not equity, the key question you must ask yourself is: "Am I confident that my cash-on-cash return from real estate will exceed the interest rate on the student loan debt?"

If your answer to this key question is "yes" - invest in real estate and stretch out the student loan and only pay the minimum on the student loan. 

 

Otherwise, you're walking away from an arbitrage opportunity.

 

If it's "no", retire the student loan debt balance sooner. Otherwise, then you're hemorrhaging cash.

 

What did I personally do? After college, I retired my student loan debt fairly promptly. 

 

But this was before I knew about REI. I still thought budgets were good and that the best way to financial betterment was cutting expenses and all the wrong stuff.

 

That was an awesome question, Dillon in Nebraska. Because I know that so many people have that question - how do I best allocate a dollar toward debt retirement versus expanding my upside.

 

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The next question is from Monique in Quebec City, Quebec. Monique says,

 

Keith, I love your show. I’ve listened to every new episode since 2018, and now I’m also going back and listening to them from the beginning. Thanks, Monique. I’m grateful for your listenership. 

 

Monique goes on to say, “I’ve bought four cash-flowing properties from the providers at GREturnkey.com. (Good job there, Monique) They were all EXISTING construction properties.

 

Though I expect the cash flow to be less on my fifth one, because it’s going to be a brand new construction property.”

 

Is the HOME INSPECTION a required expense for me when the property is completely new?

 

Thanks for all your help. Signed, Monique.

 

Monique, the answer is “yes”, you should. Always have a pre-purchase inspection done, even for new construction property.

 

Sometimes people think of a NEW CONSTRUCTION property as “perfect”. Well, I don’t think of any property as “perfect”.

 

But an example of a mistake made in a new construction property is that, maybe the air conditioner is too small and doesn’t have the capacity to cool all, 1,800 sf of the home or whatever it is.

 

Maybe some new flooring wasn’t installed correctly and it’s showing signs of de-lamination. 

 

An inspection provided by a local, independent, third-party inspector is a cheap insurance policy for you, the buyer and you need to factor it in as one of your closing and due diligence costs.

 

Now, an inspection on a SFR, is probably going to cost you somewhere in the neighborhood of $400 - of course that’ll vary based on the area.

 

You have the inspection performed shortly AFTER you & the provider agree on a purchase and sale contract. 

 

The reason that you want to get the inspection scheduled shortly after you’re under contract is because sometimes it can take a while - weeks - for your provider’s contractor to fix the deficiencies that your inspector finds.

 

Now, how do you find an inspector for your property, anyway? There are a few ways of going about it. You can ask your provider to recommend one. 

 

If you’re leery of that or think that your provider might be in “cahoots” somehow with the inspector, you can Google your own, or thirdly, get an opinion from friends or if you don’t have friends that have invested there before, then use an online real estate forum.

 

Seek an inspector that’s ASHI-certified. A-S-H-I stands for American Society Of Home Inspectors. Those certificants are educated, tested, verified, and certified.

 

The inspections that they do are really quite thorough. They go everywhere in the home you’re planning to purchase, even looking in the closets and pantries, making sure all the doors & windows open & close.

 

If there’s a crawl space, they’ll climb down into the crawl space looking for deficiencies, taking notes, and taking photos that they compile in a report and send to you.  

 

Before you buy the property, the inspector might even go up on the roof - or at least zoom in and take some photos of the roof. And of course, they go all through the home and check everything in between.

 

They do the entire inspection same-day. It takes a couple of hours.

 

Some common findings that your property inspector might have are:

 

  • The outdoor rainwater downspout discharges water at the foundation. Add extensions. That’s a super cheap, easy fix for your seller to do for you.

 

  • The kitchen window doesn’t close all the way because it has a broken crank.

 

  • The exhaust fan in the bathroom doesn’t have any power and it’s not pulling any air.

 

  • The outdoor water spigot is missing its valve.

 

  • The backdoor is bent at the bottom.

 

  • A porch this high off the ground needs to have a railing added.

 

So, Monique, as you can see, some of these are deficiencies that could occur in a new construction home.

 

Now, let me touch on a couple of these. The backdoor is bent - that could be pretty minor. If you don’t think it’s aesthetically detracting and the door still closes - then maybe you do ask the provider to fix it - and maybe you don’t. 

 

If I were you, I’d usually just ask.

 

But if there’s a minor dent in the door instead, and it functions well, then asking for something like replacing the entire door might make you appear unreasonable to deal with. 

 

There’s some judgment there.

 

But if the backdoor won’t close, you’ve at least got to see that it closes and latches properly.

 

The last example that I mentioned - if the inspector cites a finding that a porch this high off the ground needs to have a railing for safety, you’ve got to be sure that’s done.

 

In fact, a reputable provider will be sure that’s done for you.

 

This is part of you being a good operator. Remember how I’ve discussed that having an LLC is only your fourth line of protection, at best.

 

Make sure any health or safety findings are addressed from the inspection. Do that good in the world.

 

If an accident ever did occur at the property - you can always point to the inspection that you had done - and it was an option that you paid for. 

 

The inspection is an option. 

 

So, these are all the findings that the inspector reports to you - and he’ll send you a report of a few dozen pages in a .pdf format.

 

Some things might be noted in the report, but the inspector won’t list them as deficiencies that NEED to be remedied - like small cracks in the sidewalk.

 

Often, in the report, the inspector makes a clear delineation as to when a condition is poor enough … such that it falls to a deficient level - and he puts them all in one punchlist at the end of the report. 

 

That way, you’re not having to split hairs and do too much interpretation.

 

You look the report over, and then you ask the provider to fix them for you before you’ll close on the property.

 

The provider might take, say a week or so to have their contractor fix those punchlisted items. 

 

When they’ve finished them, then you’re on your way to having your appraisal and moving closer to the closing table.

 

But, I’ve got to tell you something kind of disappointing here. I’ve been directly investing in real estate actively and continuously since 2002 - and I’ve got to tell you …

 

… many times, even when the contractor says that they’ve completed fixing everything - even when they send you pictures … something really wasn’t quite fixed right.

 

So what I suggest, is that - existing construction or new construction - when you hire your inspector, tell him right then & there, that you are also going to want a follow-up re-inspection that occurs after the initial inspection.

 

The purpose of a re-inspection is confirming that all of the deficienies noted in the original inspection were indeed done. 

 

And by the way, there will ALWAYS be original inspection findings. 

 

An inspector will always find at least one deficiency and I’ve dealt with properties from Pennsylvania to Florida to Alaska to Texas and in-between - and outside the U.S. too. 

 

Inspectors always find stuff that’s wrong. Always. It’s like a universal law.

 

But, getting back to re-inspections. Upon scheduling your original home inspection, if you point out AT THAT TIME that you’ll also be getting a re-inspection - tell both the inspector & the seller this, I tend to think it helps keep parties on their toes and that they try harder to get the original inspection findings handled - the first time.

 

And look, re-inspections are super cheap. If a SFR ORIGINAL INSPECTION costs $400, a re-inspection is going to be less than $100. 

 

I’ve even paid $50, $60 in some markets for the re-inspection. It’s hard to believe that you can even get a trained, qualified professional to make a field visit somewhere that inexpensively.   

 

Now - and I have this happen too - what if after your RE-inspection - which would really be a second inspection, that the provider or their contractor STILL didn’t get things repaired properly?

 

Then the responsibility shifts to your seller - to schedule and pay for a second RE-inspection - which would be a THIRD inspection then - to prove that it’s right. 

 

That’s correct, in every state and nation I’ve ever invested in, the seller-side pays for your second re-inspection … if it comes to that.

 

That’s fair. Because after the original inspection findings, your seller said they’d make the repairs. 

 

If the re-inspection that you paid for to confirm that it was done, instead shows that it wasn’t done. Your seller had their chance and messed it up. That’s why it’s customary that they pay for the SECOND re-inspection.

 

So, Monique, to summarize for you here. 

  • Always pay for a property inspection, even on new construction.

 

  • Expect there to be findings every time.

 

  • And my own personal experience shows that at the time that you book an inspection, it helps to indicate that you’ll be getting a RE-inspection too.

 

Now, getting a re-inspection makes so much more sense than getting a re-appraisal - if you get a low appraisal, which doesn’t happen often, maybe I’ll discuss that another day.

 

Re-appraisals are a waste of time … more than 95% of the time, they just come back with the same valuation you got the first time.

 

An appraisal protects the bank. An Inspection protects you - so be sure to have one done. Excellent question, Monique from Quebec City, Canada.

Next week on the show, I’m going to discuss Real Estate’s Secret Market - a geography where the numbers really work for investors that might have been off your radar.

After that, we’re going to talk with a prominent economist that’s never been on the show before that’s going to help you see your economic future over the next 1-3 years.

We’ve hosted a lot of economists here on the show that give you those long-term investing insights like Richard Duncan, Harry Dent, Jim Rickards, Jim Rogers - and also,  though they might not be economists, Robert Kiyosaki and Chris Martenson are here with us to give us those types of insights.

Then there’s “Yours Truly” - I’m your armchair economist without an economics degree. 

But this new guest is the leader of the oldest continuously operating economics prediction company in the entire United States, so I’m excited to chat with him and bring you that show soon.

As you know, nationally, housing inventory is scarce, especially with these types of single-family homes that make the best rentals.

You can’t make any money from the property that you don’t own. So whether you prefer to call it “packaged commodities investing” or the “get paid up to 5 Ways” vehicle, next time you’re looking to connect with a provider at GREturnkey.com …

As we spoke of Florida earlier, you’ll see that Jacksonville has brand new construction property, where you’re probably more of a fan of appreciation than cash flow on those. 

Rents are $1,350 on a $180K purchase price. That’s a 0.75 rent-to-value ratio.

Tampa has existing construction property where you have a 0.8 or .85 ratio and might get, say $150 of monthly cash flow.

 

Alabama has numbers that work - like rent-to-value ratios near a full 1% and really low property taxes in either Birmingham or Huntsville.

 

If you’re looking for low cost property - as low as $80K in decent neighborhoods that really cash flow well, Memphis and Little Rock could be the places for you.

 

The Indiana State side of Chicagoland is advantageous too.

 

All those places - Memphis, Little Rock, Chicagoland - you can get a full 1% RV ratio or even more than that sometimes.

 

If you’ve got more patience and want to benefit and capture some forced equity along with your cash flow, the BRRRR model in Baltimore could work best for you.

 

Check out all of those markets and more - at GREturnkey.com

 

Thanks! I’m grateful for all of your excellent listener questions today! I’m your host, Keith Weinhold. Don’t Quit Your Daydream! 

 

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Wealth Labs with Garrett Gunderson
Wealth Labs with Garrett Gunderson
Garrett Gunderson
150. Why Compound Interest May Be OVER-RATED / Ask The Money Nerds
Do you have a financial question you'd like one of our Financial Nerds to answer? Submit your questions at https://askthemoneynerds.com and watch for our response on an upcoming episode! In this episode of Ask the Money Nerds, Garrett takes a deep dive into the commonly discussed money topic of compound interest. Is compound interest a myth? When is the right time to take money from a retirement plan? Is compound interest the only way to grow your wealth or is it over-rated? Today, we explore how the banks and institutions make money while giving you the opposite advice on how you can grow your money. We take a look at some of the pitfalls with utilizing government sponsored plans and the traps of keeping your money "invested" for as long as possible even if it's not to your long term benefit. *** If you enjoy the podcast, consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes for us. It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference. I also love reading the reviews! Check Out Garrett's Books: Killing Sacred Cows - https://amzn.to/2lMbX1i What Would Billionaires Do - https://wlth.co/yt-garretts-billionaire-book Connect with Garrett: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/garrettbgunderson Twitter: https://twitter.com/GBGunderson Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/garrettbgunderson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garrett-gunderson-651359b3/ Website: https://wealthfactory.com/
20 min
Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow with Kevin Bupp
Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow with Kevin Bupp
Kevin Bupp
#307: Urban Development, Giving Back, and Much More! -with Adrian Washington
Adrian Washington is the CEO and founder of the neighborhood development company. Adrian has more than 30 years of experience in urban real estate development, construction, and management. Since founding NDC in 1999 he has led the development of over 1 million square feet of real estate in the Washington DC area with an active pipeline of another half-million. NDC is also a partner in the District’s City Center DC project and in Baltimore’s State Center project. From 2005 until early 2007 Adrian took a leave of absence from NDC to serve as the President and CEO of the Anacostia Waterfront Corporation (AWC), which is the entity charged with leading the redevelopment of the city’s Southwest and Anacostia Waterfronts, including Nationals Stadium, the Yards, and the Wharf. Adrian grew up in the city’s Anacostia neighborhood and is a lifelong resident of DC. He is a graduate of Stanford University and Harvard Business School. Quotes: “We like variety from both an economic portfolio balance perspective, but also from an interest perspective. I’ve done this for a while now, I want to have that variety and my team likes different kinds of projects. So, we do for-sale condos, market-rate rental buildings, market-rate commercial buildings, and we also do affordable housing because it’s a good business, but it’s also a good way to give back.” “The supply and demand imbalance, if anything, has gotten worse for the buyer. The prices have gone up tremendously there (single-family homes) and the selling cycle has gotten shorter, and for the condo project we had, the same type of thing." Highlights: 3:24- Adrienne talks about his background and how he made his way into the real estate space 11:03- Adrienne tells us about what he builds to keep and builds to sell 16:09- Adrienne talks about the impact of COVID in the area that he does his business in 19:45- Adrienne tells us about the most rewarding project that he’s ever been a part of Guest Website: https://www.neighborhooddevelopment.com/ Learn About Investment and Partnership Opportunities with Kevin and His Team
36 min
Master Passive Income Real Estate Investing in Rental Property
Master Passive Income Real Estate Investing in Rental Property
Dustin Heiner
How to Buy 6 Duplexes in 15 Months Investing In Real Estate
Imagine buying 12 units and making $4500 a month in passive income in just 15 months! Well, my student did just that. After buying 6 duplexes, even during the COV ID pandemic, Benjamin continued to grow his business buying 5 properties in 12 months. Get the free real estate investing course: https://masterpassiveincome.com/freecoursep Watch the first interview here: https://masterpassiveincome.com/151 // WHAT TO WATCH NEXT Best Places to Invest: https://youtu.be/g3b4FuQkL78 How to Become Successfully Unemployed: https://youtu.be/wx5Ke9KVs58 Get Money For Investing in Real Estate: https://youtu.be/u4IY5UMDkrI How to Start Investing In Real Estate: https://youtu.be/fJVOeSgXZRQ How to Analyze a Real Estate Investing Deal in 5 Seconds: https://youtu.be/SqA1HcAW4EI How to Set Up Your LLC for Your Business: https://youtu.be/B9RzLkAZI9s How to Use Owner Financing to Make Loads of Money: https://youtu.be/qAOpCOWvj6Q //BEST REAL ESTATE INVESTING RESOURCE LINKS Free Property Get Business Funding https://masterpassiveincome.com/fundandgrow Great High Interest Savings Account: https://masterpassiveincome.com/cit Accurate Rental Rates: https://masterpassiveincome.com/rentometer Self Directed IRA for Real Estate Investing: https://masterpassiveincome.com/rocketdollar Learn more about Dustin and find resources to build an automatic real estate investing business: https://masterpassiveincome.com Join our free private Facebook group! https://masterpassiveincome.com/group #realestateinvesting NOTE: This description may contains affiliate links to products we enjoy using ourselves. Should you choose to use these links, this channel may earn affiliate commissions at no additional cost to you. We appreciate your support!
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BiggerPockets Business Podcast
BiggerPockets Business Podcast
BiggerPockets
92: The 3 Biggest Mistakes People Make During Negotiations with Kwame Christian M.A. Esquire
Negotiation is all around us, whether we see it or not. Whether it’s a business negotiation, an argument in a relationship, or convincing your child to eat their greens, you’re always negotiating. With us on today’s episode is Kwame Christian M.A. Esquire, host of the Negotiate Everything podcast and author of Finding Confidence in Conflict. Most people think you have to be a lawyer to be an expert negotiator. Kwame argues that this isn’t true. Since we are constantly negotiating every day, we have the ability to level up our skills to become experts in debating and negotiating. He stresses that winning a negotiation doesn’t mean beating your opponent so they’re embarrassed at the end. It means giving you AND the opponent the ability to walk away from the situation with a win. Kwame preaches “compassionate curiosity” as one of the best ways to research how an opponent may answer questions you present to them. Tie this with some creative problem solving, and you’ll come out of the debate a winner. As real estate investors, this is especially key to our line of business. We’re constantly debating with sellers, buyers, appraisers and more to get outcomes that benefit us. But how can we suggest an outcome that makes the negotiating partner feel good and presents us with future opportunities? You’ll have to listen to find out! In This Episode We Cover: * Why negotiating isn’t just arguing and how to find wins for both parties * Using “The Empathy Loop” as a tactic to have the other party feel heard * The 3 pillars of negotiation, and keeping them in mind when we debate * The biggest mistakes people make when negotiating * Research vs. preparation (when to use which for what) * Compassionate curiosity and seeing your opponents point of view * Maintaining your “form” throughout negotiation * And So Much More! Links from the Show * Previous BiggerPockets Business Episodes * Finding Confidence in Conflict | Kwame Christian | TEDxDayton * American Negotiation Institute Guides (Gift) * Virtual Negotiation and Conflict Resolution Handbook (Gift) Check the full show notes here: http://biggerpockets.com/bizshow92
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Self Storage Income
Self Storage Income
AJ Osborne
Pricing a Storage Unit - How to Know Exactly What to Charge to Increase Value
Welcome back everybody to the Self Storage Income Podcast! This is your host AJ Osborne. Today we have the big daddy of them all… unit pricing. If you own, operate, or are looking at investing in storage, have you every asked yourself: What should you be charging for the units at your storage facility? How do you know what the storage market can handle in your area? How much can you increase the rate of your storage units? What’s the BEST price you should charge for your storage units? If you’ve asked these questions before, you’re certainly not alone. You’d be surprised how many storage facilities we come across that are extremely under valued. They’re not charging the rates they could be. This is a great problem to have as an owner or investor, because you can immediately and simply resolve this issue. Not only that, you can increase your revenue by incredible amounts. This is what we’re going to jump into today. We’re going to cover everything unit pricing and help to answer all the questions you might have in regard to pricing units. To do this, we need to be able to accurately measure supply, demand, how to increase storage demand, value of our tenants (even over time), finding your ideal customer, and much more. One super important thing I want you to take away from this episode is to realize that each and every single one of the storage units at your facility is an individual product. I talk more on this idea on the podcast and why this frame of mind is so important. As always, thanks a ton for all your amazing support everybody. Thanks for listening! AJ Be sure to go to Selfstorageincome.com to get your copy of my Self Storage Playbook. This step by step playbook walks you through from start to finish - how to identify a self storage market, how to perform due diligence, how to contact a current owner, and ultimately how to land a deal and purchase a storage facility. You can also find the Self Storage Income Podcast on: * iTunes * Spotify * Stitcher The Self Storage Income Podcast is Sponsored by: Janus International - https://www.janusintl.com/ Store Local - https://www.selfstorage.coop/aws/SL/pt/sp/home_page Live Oak Bank - liveoakbank.com/incomepodcast
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Apartment Building Investing with Michael Blank Podcast
Apartment Building Investing with Michael Blank Podcast
Michael Blank
MB 250: The Best of 2020 on Apartment Building Investing
We’ve always said that multifamily is recession-proof, and 2020 gave us a chance to prove it. While the stock market and other asset classes suffered in the pandemic, apartment buildings continue to provide steady cashflow and a safe place to keep our money growing for the long term. So, what can syndicators do to get this message to more people and build a successful real estate investing business? On this episode, I’m sharing the Best of 2020 on the Apartment Building Investing Podcast, beginning with last year’s biggest news—the Coronavirus pandemic. We revisit Drew Kniffin’s thoughts on the risk COVID poses for passive investors, Drew Whitson’s take on why multifamily is still the strongest asset class in real estate, and Russell Gray’s insight on how to protect your wealth in a crisis. We look back at my conversations with Pat Flynn and Amy Porterfield on marketing to investors online and my interview with Gino Wickman around what it takes to be a successful entrepreneur. Listen in for master deal maker Garrett Lynch’s insight on choosing the right market and get inspired by BiggerPockets VP Brandon Turner’s approach to achieving BIG things with tiny action. Key Takeaways How COVID is likely to impact passive investors in multifamily * Unless already run poorly, virus won’t bankrupt property * Much better option than stock market (30% paper loss) Why multifamily is still the strongest asset class in real estate * Performs well through economic disruption * Office buildings, retail and medical suffered in COVID What makes real estate a solid investment (even in a crisis) * Fits criteria of being both REAL and ESSENTIAL * Governments support housing, energy and healthcare What to look for in a multifamily real estate market * Resources available to operate and steady dealflow * Population, job and overall economic growth Who should consider building a thought leadership platform * EVERYONE can build personal brand online * Place to announce, connect and prove authority Why an email list is more valuable than social media followers * Algorithms change, you don’t own social platforms * Email list = YOUR asset for growing relationships How to choose the right lead magnet for your audience * IRRESISTIBLE piece of free content (trade for email addy) * What avatar needs to believe to do business with you The eight critical mistakes most entrepreneurs make * Not having vision * Hiring wrong people * Not spending time with your people * Not knowing who customer is * Not charging enough * Not staying true to your core (shiny object syndrome) * Not knowing your numbers * Not crystalizing roles and responsibilities The eight disciplines for increasing your chances of success * Clarify vision * Decide if you’re ‘partner person’ * Bigger problem = more success * Get feedback early and often * First plan will not be final plan * Work hard (really hard) * Take criticism with grain of salt * See it every night The two kinds of ‘partner people’ in entrepreneurship * Equal partners * Give equity but maintain controlling interest Why it’s crucial to have a clear vision for your business * Know where you want to be and take next tiny step * Ask what’s cool and write as if you’re already there Connect with Drew Kniffin Drew at Nighthawk Equity Drew on LinkedIn Connect with Drew Whitson Drew at the Michael Blank Mentoring Program Drew on LinkedIn Connect with Russell Gray The Real Estate Guys Russell on LinkedIn Connect with Garrett Lynch Garrett at Nighthawk Equity Garrett on LinkedIn Connect with Pat Flynn Pat’s Website Pat at Smart Passive Income Connect with Amy Porterfield Amy’s Website Marketing Made Easy Podcast Connect with Gino Wickman Entrepreneurial Leap Entrepreneurial Leap: Do You Have What It Takes to Become an Entrepreneur? by Gino Wickman Connect with Brandon Turner Open Door Capital BiggerPockets Podcast The Book on Rental Property Investing: How to Create Wealth with Intelligent Buy and Hold Real Estate Investing by Brandon Turner Resources Drew Kniffin on Apartment Building Investing EP208 Drew Whitson on Apartment Building Investing EP228 Russell Gray on Apartment Building Investing EP226 Garrett Lynch on Apartment Building Investing EP231 Pat Flynn on Apartment Building Investing EP210 Amy Porterfield on Apartment Building Investing EP212 Gino Wickman on Apartment Building Investing EP243 Brandon Turner on Apartment Building Investing EP221 Bryce Stewart on BiggerPockets Podcast EP276 Vivid Vision: A Remarkable Tool for Aligning Your Business Around a Shared Vision of the Future by Cameron Herold Find Out More About Deal Maker Live Learn More About Michael’s Mentoring Program Register for Michael’s Platform Builders Workshop What’s the Best Investment: The Stock Market or Real Estate? Podcast Show Notes Michael’s Website Michael on Facebook Michael on Instagram Michael on YouTube Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group Email digital@themichaelblank.com
40 min
The Brian Buffini Show
The Brian Buffini Show
Brian Buffini
The Power of a Made-Up Mind #262
“You can do it, but you’ve got to have your mind made up.” – Therese Buffini All successful people have made up their minds to win long before they experience their first victory. In this episode, a rebroadcast of our most popular message ever, Brian discusses the power of a made-up mind and shares inspiring stories from his own life and the lives of people who’ve defied the odds. Brian also examines the two questions to consider when you want to make up your mind to live the life you’ve always dreamed of. YOU WILL LEARN: * Five benefits of harnessing the power of a made-up mind. * How to turn negative feedback into life lessons. * The importance of making a decision, no matter how big or small. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: “Man’s Search for Meaning,” by Viktor Frankl INSPIRATIONAL QUOTES FROM THIS EPISODE: “Inside all books of success and all stories of victories, there are chapters of failure.” – Brian Buffini “Even though you may stop for a while, when your mind is made up you never, ever give up.” – Brian Buffini “If you’re giving up, your mind is not made up.” – Brian Buffini “A human being whose mind is made up is a force of nature in this world.” – Brian Buffini “I have made up my mind. And I have been blessed in my life as a result of it. But I did not do it by myself.” – Brian Buffini https://www.TheBrianBuffiniShow.com http://www.brianbuffini.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brian_buffini Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brianbuffini Twitter: https://twitter.com/brianbuffini Theme Music: “The Cliffs of Moher” by Brogue Wave
44 min
The Remote Real Estate Investor
The Remote Real Estate Investor
Roofstock
Showdown of The Century (Round 6): Investing in Big Cities vs Small Towns
In this episode, Tom and Emil battle it out in the hotly debated question of whether to invest in a big city or in a small town. --- Transcript Michael: Hey everybody. Welcome to another episode of The Remote Real Estate Investor. I'm Michael Albaum and today I'm joined by my co hosts, Tom: Tom Schneider Emil: and Emil Shour Michael: And today we're gonna be having another showdown episode, we're gonna be doing big city versus small town, which do we like better for our remote real estate investing. So let's get into it. Real quick before we get into it, I ate pizza for dinner last night, and it was really hot when I came out of the oven, and I just burned the roof of my mouth. Is that ever happened to you guys where it's just like so raw? Tom: Definitely. I'm very risk averse. When it comes to heating food. I just played safe my microwave. I programmed it to not go for over 30 seconds and if it's something that takes five minutes, I just stand by plugging in 30 seconds and then it's just safer that way. Mouth pain is terrible, like teeth. tooth pain, anyways, yes, that sucks when you burn your mouth. Michael: I'm just an adult baby like, you don't break your mouth. So for those of you who don't know, or who have never listened to a showdown episode, what we're gonna do is we're gonna debate big city versus small town. And then we're going to swap sides. And so the person who took small town is going to have big city and vice versa. So we get to hear the CO hosts pro and con argument for both big city and small town so we get the full viewpoint and vantage point for how they think about these things. And I can see them both frivolously I don't know if that's the right word writing down notes. copiously taking notes. Tom; I'm not doing it for those frivolously. Michael: Frivolously! Alright, so Emil, are you taking big city or small town first? Emil: I am going to take big city. And when we talk about big city here, before we get into it, let's define that for audience. What are we defining as a big city? Are we talking a Los Angeles and New York, a Chicago? Are we talking secondary cities, tertiary cities? Michael: I'd say secondary and tertiary cities. Tom: I'd say big cities, let's say the 10 biggest cities in the United States. So like, I'd say, Atlanta, Orlando, Houston, Dallas, New York, LA, those ones, what do you guys think? I mean, I'm just kind of shooting from the cuff here work. But the little cities got to be little, little cities. You know, I think the middle middle ground is off the table. Michael: I don't want to have ever heard of the cities that you're talking about. Tom: Indianapolis, you're not in this debate. Emil: So we're not going to go into like which city in particular, but just in general, in general, like big population cities. So the top 10 are New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Phoenix, Philadelphia, San Antonio, San Diego. That's interesting, Dallas and San Jose. So that's the top 10 markets. And then we'll cover the other end of the spectrum where you're just talking about like, you know, a small town in Michigan or something, for example, right? Michael: Yeah, yeah, perfect. Emil: So I'll take a large city to start perfect, Tom, you're on small town. Tom: Beautiful. Michael: And Emil I want to give you the floor first. So tell us why you are such a big fan of big cities. Emil: I'm not a big fan of big cities, but I'm gonna pretend to be for this show. Michael: So for the debate for the debate. Emil: To me, there's three that really stand out. So those three are population, rent growth and appreciation potential. So in bigger cities, you have a lot of people, meaning you have a lot of tenants, which is good. As a residential real estate investor, I want to know my tenant pool is large, that's a good thing. For me, that means I have a lot of tenants. Good to know. The second one I mentioned is rent growth. So typically, in larger cities, you know, Los Angeles in New York, some of those top 10, we mentioned, you're just going to see much higher rents than you would in a small town. And I don't know if we've covered it on the podcast before, but the lower your rent is on a monthly basis, the way I like to look at it is you have a smaller margin of error. So sometimes you will see like a 50 or $60,000, home that rents for five 600 bucks. And they're like, Oh my god, the cash flow. And the numbers look amazing. But what they don't realize is one big expense can really wipe you out in terms of cash flow for the year, because a roof costs what a roof costs, have it fixed. And so when your rent is low, yes, it could look good. If everything goes right all year, your yield will look great. But in reality, you'll have those big costs come up and they'll crush your cash flow. So in larger markets, your rent is higher and your rent growth is typically higher as well, because populations big It's a place where there's a lot of demand, a lot of people live there. So rent growth, you typically can see go higher. And the third one is appreciation potential. So those larger cities, that's a lot of times when there's a bull market, that's where you're seeing a lot of the appreciation happening like meaningful appreciation, right? You buy a property that's worth $500,000 in it goes up 10% now you just made 50 k in equity, let's just say same 10% on a $75,000 home, you only went up seven grand right? So just your equity, growth potential through appreciation is just going to be much lower. So to me, those are the three things that really attract investors to big cities. Michael: Does any of that thought process thesis change? Because of COVID? Emil: I don't know. I mean, yes, it does, like I live in Los Angeles. And I know that rents have actually declined, especially in multifamily, because a lot of people have either left the city to go to the suburbs or moving out of state or whatever it is. So I know rent growth and multifamily has gone down population. I mean, that's what's affecting it right. There's just less demand for housing gear. So that's driving rent wrote down, but on the flip side, right now, appreciation is skyrocketing in California, because rates are so low. And this isn't for multifamily, right multifamily is based on how the acid is performing. So if you have lower rents, the cap rate is going to be higher, which means you're gonna have a lower price when you want to sell it. But coupled with that low interest rates, so it hasn't really affect like even multifamily values have gone up as well, it's kind of been negated by low interest rates. So on one end, it's hurt cash flow. But on the other end, you know, I've heard that a lot of La multifamily like their net worth is skyrocketed because of all this appreciation. Michael: Good to know Tom, your rebuttal? Tom: Three letters, two words, baby ROI, cash flow, when you go to that small town to buy, well, first of all, small town, just a great way to live, you know, slower paced living. But let's get back to the discussion, I digress. So your returns traditionally are going to be significantly higher on a cash flow basis. In this smaller towns, if you look at just the ratio of the rent to the price of the home, it's going to be higher, there's going to be higher returns. Now true. There's some downside of typically, there are smaller economies. But if you're looking to get in and looking at these returns as a gross yield, as cap rate, smaller towns are gonna find higher returns. And the reason for that, I think a big reason for that is there's just less competition when you go into these big cities like the Phoenix is and the Dallas's there are these huge institutions that have these fancy calculators that are buying houses all the time, when you go to these small towns, there's not that competition. So you as an investor, being a hard working smart person that you are, you can go evaluate houses and not…
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BiggerPockets Podcast : Real Estate Investing and Wealth Building to Help You Get Bigger Pockets
BiggerPockets Podcast : Real Estate Investing and Wealth Building to Help You Get Bigger Pockets
BiggerPockets.com : Joshua Dorkin and Brandon Turner
BiggerPockets Podcast 437: How Your “Worst Case Scenario” Can Set You Free From a Job You Hate with Marie Forleo
Marie Forleo, world class coach, marketer, and author, grew up with a mother that did everything. Whether it was retiling the bathroom, fixing a leak in the roof, or performing electrical engineering on small appliances, her mother seemed to be able to figure out almost anything. One day she told Marie “everything is figureoutable”, which became the mantra for her career. Fast forward a decade or so, Marie is working on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, surrounded by the mega rich. She was stressed out and felt that she wasn’t in the right place. After a prayer and a cry, Marie knew she needed to get out from a job that was slowly killing her. She made the jump and went after coaching, without any experience, money, or clients. Before she left her job she asked herself, “what is the worst case scenario if I leave”. She calculated it out, wrote it down, and realized, the worst case scenario really wasn’t all that bad. Marie strongly believes that although you can be a victim of circumstances, you should never victimize yourself and tell yourself that you “can’t” do something. Everyone has the ability to reach their full potential, but once you start putting up excuses, it’s hard to get there. “Feel the fear”, that’s what Marie told herself in those trying times, and continues to tell herself and her clients that everyday. As she puts it “Fear is really trying to tell you to move towards something”. As real estate investors, this is something we can all relate to, but often don’t put into practice. Well, now's the time to!
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