Third Millennium Education
Zenna Hopson
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The Third Millenium Education is a collection of thoughts and inspirations of stakeholders within education.
A podcast exploring state mandated education, its relevance, impact and how it can best meet the needs of third millennium learners, employers and the country.
Whether you are a parent, training to be a teacher, a policymaker, an academic, an education innovator or someone working in edtech there will be something for you.
This podcast is hosted by Zenna Hopson.
www.ZennaHopson.com
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Jun 1, 2021
Mark Rogers, Executive Director at Collaborate CIC and Zarah Printer, Board member for Care Leaders Covenant Advisory Board
Welcome to another episode of Third Millennium Education. This week we are so excited to have a special episode consisting of two guests, Mark Rogers and Zarah Printer. We are going to hear from their view on the current education system, and the importance of supportive educators and caregivers in their lives, and how they benefited from it.
“One of the main things that I hear from young people over and over again, we actually want to be heard.”
“Love should never leave. Represent the fact that when your childhood and your adolescence is disrupted, it doesn't mean that you don't need what every child needs, which is somebody to love you and care for you and to never stop doing those things.”
“Caregivers and educators are supposed to be somebody who's rooting for you, supports you, challenges you but never gives up on you. And that's the challenge. And that's what the covenants really are.”
“We need to be empathic in our relationships. And we need to be relationship focused, because the evidence shows that it helps children to be more successful.”
“Two main things need to be focused on, understanding the needs of children that they look after. And tailoring the educational system for this cohort.”
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May 13, 2021
Deborah Eyre, Founder of High Performance Learning
Deborah is Founder and Chair of High Performance Learning. Her career has focused on helping students reach high levels of cognitive performance. She created the High Performance Learning organisation to engineer a system-change in educational thinking so that we start to accept that most people could be high performers and structure schools accordingly.
“It gave me the chance to really begin to understand and do serious research into how the most successful learners think and learn.”
“How do we systematically build brains?”
“Schools that have adopted High Performance Learning, they just can’t envisage going back to any other way of doing it.”
“We need to prepare them for things that are likely to happen. We need to build this kind of disposition, where people feel confident to have a go and unworried if they don’t get it right.”
https://www.highperformancelearning.co.uk/
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Apr 29, 2021
Hezron Brown, Founder of More Talk More Action
Hezron Brown, Founder & Director of More Talk More Action, Ambassador of The Prince's Trust and Business Owner of Beyond Belief
“Concentrate on the subjects that are important and will benefit you moving forward.”
“Nowadays, teachers are trained to identify the needs and tackle issues met by young people but it is still not put into practice.”
“Teachers could not concentrate on helping the students because of their heavy workload.”
“Caring and believing from educators is vital in one's life.”
“Serious problem with our education system is that young people feel like they're not looked after, or that the education system doesn't care about them.”
“With mentoring, we help build that relationship between the young people, the parents and the school. To ensure young people are getting the best education that they can.”
“Believe, be confident and invest in yourself.”
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Apr 14, 2021
Hannah Jones, Founder of Connecting Learning
Hannah Jones, founder & director of Connecting Learning talks about how technology can benefit education.
Hannah Jones says “Technology needs to make learning easier, quicker, or better.”
“Learners need to get excited about creating content online and collaborating together.”
“It is important to have fun while learning.”
“Technology needs to make learning easier, quicker, or better.”
“Learners should have the option and the ability to use technology as part of their evidence in learning.”
Connect with Hannah Jones on Linkedin
Third Millennium Education, it is a collection of thoughts and inspirations of stakeholders within education. What is education for and who is it serving?
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Mar 31, 2021
Lord Victor Adebowale, Co-Founder & Chairman of Visionable, Chair Social Enterprise UK
This week, we have Lord Victor Adebowale, Co-Founder & Chairman of Visionable and Chair of Social Enterprise UK. We are going to hear from his view on the current education system, and stress how personalised learning can benefit minority youngsters in many ways.
“Firstly, we don't value teaching our teachers enough to give them the inspiration. Secondly, we should think about education, not exams. Lastly, we have to give our kids enough experiences so they can make credible choices about their life now.”
“We ought to be just a bit more expansive. Our education is lazy, thinking that our children will come out of an education system with the ability to manage people or understand the world of work or be creative.”
“If the school hasn't got the time and the resources, kids will act out in other ways. It's logical since children have been forced to go to a place where they feel terrible and their intelligence is not being acknowledged.”
“A lot of the kids in pupil referral units were highly intelligent kids who worked out that the system didn't care about them, so they weren't going to care about the system.”
“Education is important for society because it's the best inoculation against ignorance.”
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Mar 18, 2021
Kathleen Hamilton, Head of Product at Genius U
Kathleen Hamilton is Head of Product at GeniusU. She talks about her educational experience at Green School, Bali. GeniusU, is an edtech platform transforming education for life long learners.
“At Green School students are not segmented by age, but by what they want to learn and how competent they were at any given subjects.”
“Green School has this openness and this curiosity that didn’t exist in a lot of other schools. That is what turned me into very much believing in activism as a means of making change.”
“Ageism is just a cultural idea. Vertical learning totally got all of us together, there was never a question of, ‘I am more intelligent than this person because I am older’, instead we are open to learning a subject differently, at the same pace at the same time.”
“People that are different from us whether that is in background, nurture, nature or whatever, can teach us more than we can possibly imagine, because everyone has a different worldview.”
“When I tell how brilliant my high school was to other people, they would look at me like I was an alien. They do not think that you could enjoy High School. And that is what hit me first, there is definitely something wrong with the system, if there is a system where students feel like they would not do it again.”
“Learning should feel exciting and inspiring.”
“The more people can engage in active learning, the more people can understand how to think through difficult concepts and how to actually problem solve through a process.”
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Mar 4, 2021
Matthew Gordon, CEO and Founder of Spectra
Matthew Gordon is the CEO and Founder of Spectra, the delivery partner for the Care Leavers Covenant.
“Wider society has a role to play in supporting our young people to thrive. That is the central premise of the covenant. That is not just the state’s responsibility but the wider society has a role in nurturing, fostering and enabling.”
"I had come into the social care space in earnest in 2014, and I was amazed at some of the lack of empathy that existed for our young people.
How our young people are nurtured at home is integral to their positive outcomes.
If we turn our attention to our young people who are in care? What is that home environment like? What is the ambition like? What is the vision for that young person? And do we have a vision? Can we honestly say that for some of those individuals coming from lower economic backgrounds? Do we have a vision that they couldn't be anything that they want to be in terms of their professional trajectory? And if we do have that vision, are we facilitating that ambition? And are we cheerleaders for those young people?
Young people in long term foster care are significantly better than those who are in residential care who have had multiple moves.
For 5 years, we refused to use agency staff because its about trust. Our young people need to feel safe and secure.
Peter Bazalgette’s book Empathy Instinct talks about how we do cognitively understand empathy and emotional empathy. It's that psychic transition that allows us to say, I will do that shift, even though I've worked 10 hours already or 12 hours already, I would rather work that shift than my young person being introduced to a complete stranger. And I think that's the psychic transition that is fundamental for improving outcomes.
And this person, young man was having a meltdown before my eyes. And that emotional empathy kicked in. And I said, Do you need a hug? And you know, with all of the snot and tears, he nodded his head and came in for the hug. And I'm glad that I did it.
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Feb 17, 2021
Callum James, Founder of Zeal Movement and EventConnect
Callum James is a music and events entrepreneur, Founder of Zeal Movement and Event Connect. We are going to hear from his rollercoaster experience in both life and education and stressing how personalized learning can benefit disruptive youngsters in many ways.
“Teachers were not prepared; they do not have time. For them, it is way easier to just take the disrupted kids out from the classroom, rather than focusing on what
could be the actual problem and how to resolve them.”
“Pupil referral units definitely provided much more support than mainstream schools, however, no one was learning anything.”
“Doing practical things rather than just sitting there and regurgitating information
benefited me much more than the theory side of things.”
“I got arrested for assault from age 13 and was sent to a young offenders
institute. Within that time where I actually benefited the most was from
counselling.”
“The main downfall of mainstream education is insufficient facilities and funds to
focus on young people that have underlying issues.”
“Mainstream education says that everyone learns differently, yet they teach everyone in the same way.”
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Feb 4, 2021
Shad Moarif, Founder and Developer of Karismath and KarisEnglish
Shad Moarif is the Founder-Developer, Karismath and KarisEnglish.
"Returning the loan is a moral and spiritual need, the primary goal because regaining back their assets is like regaining something priceless.”
Time Stamp:
[1:30] Shad Moarif’s education journey
[2:45] Shad’s point of view on how different profession view mathematics
[5:23] Shad’s thoughts on well-structured education systems
[7:59] Challenges Shad met on his teaching journey in Pakistan
[9:26] Shad’s plan on teachers in Pakistan
[12:39] How did Shad armored teachers at rural areas in Pakistan with teaching skills
[17:49] How Shad utilised knowledge and understanding in teaching Maths teachers in Pakistan?
[19:26] How Shad used visualisation in teaching maths
[23:52] Creating separate components in maths learning
[27:35] How are teachers adapting visualisation method with other subjects
[31:08] Shad’s future educational plans in Pakistan
Links:To connect with Zenna Hopson go to www.zennahopson.com
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Jan 21, 2021
Marty Cofie, Creative Innovator, Personal Trainer & Educator
Join us this week in Third Millennium Education where we are delighted to welcome Marty Cofie, a creative innovator, personal trainer and educator with three children, two still at school and adapting to home learning during the pandemic. I talk to her about her experience of education, and how she helped her kids to adapt with learning during Covid-19 lockdown period.
Marty Cofie says “I'd say my first thing would be a lot of listening. A lot of listening. So watching, listening humbly and encouraging their children and also letting them teach me stuff because the curriculum that my children were learning is some of it is stuff that if I did learn it, I don't remember it.”
Third Millennium Education, it is a collection of thoughts and inspirations of stakeholders within education. What is education for and who is it serving?
Links:
To connect with Zenna Hopson go to www.zennahopson.com
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Jan 7, 2021
Henry Warren, Executive Chairman of Watobe and Co-Founder of Turn On The Subtitles
Henry Warren - Executive Chairman of Watobe and Co-Founder of Turn On The Subtitles
In this episode we hear from Henry Warren, Executive Chairman of Watobe and Co-Founder of Turn On The Subtitles.
“What was really interesting was kind of how many of those companies hadn't really kicked on beyond their country of origin. Because it's really hard to do. And then especially when you're selling into a school system, the amount of interdependencies are remarkably complex.”
“Why not look at the role of the human and the role of technology and redefine those boundaries?”
“This is about how you support kids through a learning process that can be really hard, right? How do you keep them motivated? How do you give them those metacognition skills that are going to allow them to thrive in life beyond that?”
“I think the really interesting bit, though, is what's happening outside of school.”
Time Stamps:
[0:41] Henry’s childhood experience of education.
[2:37] Life c…
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Dec 24, 2020
René Carayol, Global Leadership Keynote Speaker and Chief Executive of CARAYOL
René Carayol - Global Leadership Keynote Speaker and Chief Executive of CARAYOL
In this episode we hear from René Carayol, Global Leadership Keynote Speaker and Chief Executive of CARAYOL
“But so now with if you've come from where I've come from education is key…. And I've never seen anyone fulfil their full career potential without the intervention of a mentor. What we've realised is start them as early as you can.”
“The objective is to find out one or two things you're outstanding at. So we were going to build your career from I was just sort of the price.”
“There's so much more we can do to support the schools for the students and support the teachers. And I suppose that's my mission in life.”
“I think the world is changing very rapidly, the world of business changing very rapidly. And the world of education is changing very slowly. So therefore, the gap between them is really grown.”
Time Stamps:
[0:43] René’s experience of education
[9:38] René’s…
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Dec 10, 2020
Lawrence Dallaglio, Founder of Dallaglio Rugby Works
In this episode we hear from Lawrence Dallaglio, Former Rugby World Champion and Founder of Dallaglio Rugby Works on his thoughts on mainstream education and how his charity could be an important part in helping the next generations.
“You are what you’re exposed to in life, that’s what my mother used to teach me. The more good, positive things you can be exposed to, the more opportunities you can create for young people, the better their journey and their path might be through their education.”
“I'm a firm believer that you arrive in this world with nothing, and you leave with nothing. But you can make an impact if you're in the bit in between in lots of different ways.”
“I think once you've taken something, you should get it and pass it on.”
Time Stamps:
[4:36] What inspired Lawrence in setting up a charity?
[7:39] Lawrence thoughts on mainstream education.
[10:28] Things that mainstream education are missing.
[14:02] Lawrence examples of training in discipline…
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Nov 26, 2020
Professor Stephen Heppell, Expert In Learning Environments
In this episode, Professor Stephen Heppell will be discussing about his passions in education and his thoughts on political interference on educations.
“There are 2.2 billion children in the world, and about half have almost no education at all. And the other half of the 1 billion have pretty miserable experiences and bullying. The quarter left, actually in school enjoying it, typically, we fail about half of them, so education isn't doing all that good.”
“As you know education ain't perfect. And it could be better, but it's still got lovely bits in it. But if I look at Pisa, they're talking about collaborative problem solving, it's coming back, education goes in cycles”
“But the little things make a big difference. So people talk a lot about what we need to do to make education better? And how do we get today's generation of children to pay more attention and blah, blah, blah, it's never the children.”
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[1:38] Stephen’s highlights and lowlights of passio…
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Nov 12, 2020
Asha Alexander, Principal of The Kindergarten Starters
In this second episode we hear from Asha Alexander, principal of The Kindergarten Starters in Dubai.
“It takes a war, a climate disaster or a pandemic to force educators to actually let go what they are familiar with, and to embark on new journeys.”
“You might call me stupid or you might call me brave, to get rid of textbooks and learn in a very open way.”
“Nowadays, children can just Google anything they want to learn, what they need is a platform or an opportunity to use those skills. We want creativity, we want collaboration, we want out of the box thinking, but we’re putting them in a box.”
Time Stamps:
[2:45] What motivates Asha to embrace digital learning
[5:10] Parents initial reactions with open learning
[8:13] Teacher reactions to early stages of open learning
[12:49] Children reactions to early stages of open learning
[17:24] Synchronising online open learning during pandemic
[19:11] Children adapting open learning with devices
[22:26] Skills that chi…
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Oct 28, 2020
Charles Clarke, Former Secretary of State for Education
In this first episode, we hear from Charles Clarke, Former Secretary of State for Education of UK.
Charles said "The single biggest problem is the dislocation between work and education. We need to bring together work and education together from quite a young age."
Timestamps:
[3:08] Why education is no longer fit for purpose
[10:30] Importance of broader skillsets
[14:30] What is the purpose of education
[18:15] How to get disadvantaged people education?
[20:25] What can we do to get more individualised, supportive approach?
[25:30] Is that model of institution-based learning the right one for our century?
[27:08] Importance of learning from peers and teachers
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