COVIDcast: Ben Bland On Indonesian President Joko Widodo, A Man Of Contradictions
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In this episode of COVIDcast, Hervé Lemahieu, Director of the Asian Power and Diplomacy Program at the Lowy Institute, sat down with Ben Bland to discuss his new book, Man of Contradictions: Joko Widodo and the Struggle to Remake Indonesia, and how the Indonesian president is faring in troubled times. Ben is the Director of the Southeast Asia Program at the Lowy Institute and a long-time Indonesia watcher.

COVIDcast is a Lowy Institute pop-up podcast for anyone interested in understanding the effect of the COVID-19 pandemic on global politics. In each episode, Lowy Institute experts and invited guests discuss the implications of this crisis for the world.
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