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Speaker 1 (00:00):

Welcome to the Pop Culture Show with Barnes, Leslie, and Cubby.


Barnes (00:04):

Welcome to episode 22 of the Pop Culture Show Barnes, Leslie, and Cubby. Please rate, review, and subscribe. That's how it keeps us alive, and Cubby, the Pop Culture Show now on the iHeartRadio app and where else?


Cubby (00:19):

That would be ... Wait, what do you mean where else?


Barnes (00:21):



Cubby (00:22):

Oh, Tesla's. That's right. We give you a hard time because every week you mention it, and now I had a chance and I failed.


Leslie (00:29):

Are we in Wennebagos? That's all I want to know.


Barnes (00:31):

Yeah. And coming soon to the Astro Van and also thanks to our listeners in Turks and Caicos.


Cubby (00:37):

Turks and Caicos, that was my first episode with you guys. And I learned that I was saying it wrong my whole life.


Barnes (00:43):

That's okay, you're good. How are you guys?


Cubby (00:45):



Leslie (00:46):

Really good.


Cubby (00:46):

How are you guys feeling?


Leslie (00:46):

You know what ...


Barnes (00:48):

I'm good, crazy.


Leslie (00:49):

I'm wanting to feel better. I want to ask you guys how much water do you drink on a daily basis?


Barnes (00:53):

Not enough.


Cubby (00:53):

Not as much as you, girl. Oh my goodness.


Leslie (00:57):

Several years ago I got kidney stones, and the doctor said, "You need to drown yourself in water." I just forget to drink water, so I bought this, I don't know if you've seen them or not, but it's a gallon jug. You can get it on Amazon, QuiFit, built for life.


Barnes (01:11):

A QuiFit?


Cubby (01:12):



Leslie (01:13):

I don't know.


Cubby (01:14):



Leslie (01:17):

Is that what's called?


Cubby (01:17):

A QuiFit?


Leslie (01:23):

Build life.


Barnes (01:24):

Fram, do you know what you're saying?


Leslie (01:26):

No, I don't. I just know I have a gallon jug in front of me.


Barnes (01:29):

Do you know what a qweef is?


Leslie (01:30):

No, I don't.


Cubby (01:30):

You don't?


Leslie (01:30):

Fit, I said fit.


Cubby (01:33):

Are you serious?


Leslie (01:35):

No, what is it? Uh-oh [crosstalk 00:01:41]


Cubby (01:41):

You don't know what a qweef is?


Barnes (01:41):



Leslie (01:46):

Did I screw up again?


Barnes (01:48):

Next. Just keep going, just keep going. [crosstalk 00:01:50]. Hold on to your QuiFit.


Leslie (01:53):

I bought this-


Cubby (01:53):

Do you drink that gallon in a whole day?


Barnes (01:54):

Hold it up.


Leslie (01:55):

Yeah, you start in the morning, and it gives you little inspirational quotes.


Cubby (01:59):

Oh, it's a Qui-Fit?


Leslie (02:01):

That's what I said. I said a QuiFit. What is going on here?


Barnes (02:10):

Oh my God.


Leslie (02:11):

It starts at 7:00 a.m. good morning, and as you go throughout the day in every two hour increments it's like, "Remember your goal. Keep drinking. No excuses." Anyway, it's a gallon a day.


Barnes (02:21):

Yeah, do people freak out that you're walking around with a jug with a bunch of writing on it?


Leslie (02:26):

Well the problem is now is coronavirus so I'm home all day.


Barnes (02:29):

Oh, that's right.


Leslie (02:29):

I'm dedicated. Let me see if I can do this for a month.


Cubby (02:32):

Can we have Leslie look up qweef live just so we can see her reaction when she reads it?


Barnes (02:36):

Leslie, go ahead.


Leslie (02:36):

Wait, what is it?


Barnes (02:38):

Google it.


Cubby (02:38):

Google it right now.


Leslie (02:39):

All right, how do you spell it?


Cubby (02:40):

Q-W-E-E-F. I just did it, and it came right to the top of Google.


Leslie (02:40):



Barnes (02:40):

Read us that definition.


Leslie (02:40):



Cubby (02:45):

Q-W-E-E-F. E-E-F.


Leslie (02:49):

Oh, E-E-F. All right, hold on a second.


Barnes (02:53):

What's the definition, Fram?


Leslie (02:54):

It's not what I said.


Cubby (03:00):

Oh man. I don't know if I can top that.


Barnes (03:04):

No. Read it, and we'll beep it.


Leslie (03:08):

I'll never hear the end of this.


Barnes (03:09):

Read the definition.


Leslie (03:12):

Flatulence can have causes that aren't due to underlying disease.


Cubby (03:18):

You don't really have to bleep it.


Leslie (03:19):

See a doctor if you-


Cubby (03:21):

It is a medical term.


Leslie (03:22):

... feel pain during sexual intercourse, pass gas, stool, or ... I can't even read this.


Barnes (03:29):

I mean, when we publish these they ask us, "Is this explicit?" We're only a few minutes in, and we're already explicit.


Leslie (03:36):

Thanks a lot.


Barnes (03:37):

Cubby, how was your week?


Cubby (03:38):

Well, to tell you the truth I needed that gallon of water Leslie has to put my arm out because my arm caught on fire last week.


Leslie (03:47):



Barnes (03:48):

Your arm caught on fire?


Cubby (03:49):

Not really, so kind of. I had a grilling accident. Before I grill, which I love to grill, before I put the steaks on the grill I clean the grill, and I always put a little cooking oil on it. And then I usually wait a couple of minutes, and then I turn the gas on because it's propane, and then I fire it up. Well, there was some thunderstorms moving in, and I knew my time was limited, so I sprayed the oil on, and then I fired up the propane and didn't wait as long as I probably should have.


Barnes (04:16):

Wait, did you qweef it?


Cubby (04:19):

So then I lit the grill, and I had a mushroom cloud over my town. It was like, poof. But my right arm totally all the hair singed off, and you know that nasty smell hair makes.


Leslie (04:29):



Cubby (04:31):

It is awful, and it just hung around on my arm all night. Finally I said, "Honey, I got to take another shower." It just smelled so bad. So, yeah, a near death grilling experience was the highlight of my week.


Barnes (04:40):

That was huge.


Cubby (04:42):



Barnes (04:42):

I jumped on a plane for the first time since February. Went to Houston for a shoot, and do you know what a mask hole is?


Leslie (04:52):



Cubby (04:53):

No, I don't.


Barnes (04:54):

It's a term. It is an individual who wears a mask in a way that makes it completely ineffective like below the nose, under the chin, or back of the head. Think about that when you see them. There was a maskhole sitting in front of me, and he had the mask covering his mouth, and that was it.


Leslie (05:11):

Oh boy.


Barnes (05:12):

And you just want to go, "Dude, really? Do you understand why you're wearing a mask?" And there are arguments whether the masks work or not. But anyway, that's a maskhole. The coronavirus thing seems to be getting worse.


Cubby (05:24):

It does.


Leslie (05:25):

Yeah, and it's terrible in Tennessee as you guys know.


Barnes (05:28):

It's so bad.


Leslie (05:29):

What's going on in Georgia?


Barnes (05:30):

Same thing. Between nightly riots, coronavirus-


Leslie (05:35):



Barnes (05:35):

... street racing, yeah, all kinds of stuff.


Cubby (05:38):

Speaking of COVID, actually Steven Mnuchin promises to scale back unemployment benefits in a new $1 trillion coronavirus package, and another round of checks are coming in August of $1,200 so another stimulus coming at you in August.


Barnes (05:55):

And they're trying to kill ... What you said, they're trying to kill the ... Diminish the, whatever, that $600 unemployment a week or whatever that was because they want to motivate people to get back to work.


Cubby (06:03):

Correct. Scale back the unemployment benefits to get rid of $600 bonus.


Barnes (06:08):

But the plane thing was pretty easy. It was an hour and a half to Houston, but there were maybe 20 people on board, and they board from the back of the plane forward, which they should do anyway. And then I got to Houston at 9:03, went to a shoot, was back on the plane by 1:25 and got back to Atlanta.


Cubby (06:28):

TSA was a breeze. Even though we're all pre-screened, still you don't even need pre-screening anymore, do you?


Barnes (06:32):

Well I have clear because I'm a diamond medallion and you get it for free if you hit that status with Delta, and so you have clear, but it's funny because there's no one there. You walk up, and it's just ...


Cubby (06:42):

It's clear everywhere.


Barnes (06:43):

Yeah, you don't have to touch it, which is great because they use your eyes. So it was pretty painless, anyway. Some announcements, next week on the show Butch Walker, big time producer, former band called the Marvelous 3 out of Atlanta [crosstalk 00:06:58] among other.


Leslie (06:59):

Huge solo career, yup.


Barnes (07:00):

Yeah. Among other bands, and solo albums. And the guy writes for people like Taylor Swift, people like that, that don't really do much.


Leslie (07:08):

One of the nicest guys ever and one of the best live shows ever.


Barnes (07:11):

Yeah, so we're going to do an on location from his farm in Tennessee.


Leslie (07:14):

That's right.


Barnes (07:14):

Everybody but Cubby unless you want to get on a plane.


Cubby (07:16):

How come I'm not invited? What's up with that?


Leslie (07:17):

Come on in.


Barnes (07:18):

You are invited. Come on.


Cubby (07:20):

Actually, I'm nervous about flying. I don't know why. Not flying itself. I love to fly, but I'm saying I can't get past this whole COVID thing. I'm still a little sheltered.


Barnes (07:29):

Also in August, Grammy winner Kristian Bush from Sugarland will be on with us, good dude who ranges from Alternative to Country. He can do everything and anything.


Leslie (07:39):

Also, producing too. Kristian's been doing everything.


Barnes (07:42):

Also, coming up on today's episode, Goldberg, Bill Goldberg from a secret location at his new bunker in Texas. He is such a great guy. I have a funny story to tell about going up to lunch with him.


Leslie (07:58):

He's Mr. Motivational. I love that. He's always positive.


Barnes (08:01):

Always positive. That guy when we would do appearances with him, Cubby, he would show up at whatever to promote like the celebrity softball game we had, and he would stay until every kid got an autograph. And that was at the height of his WWE.


Cubby (08:12):

I love him already. I love people that are just down to Earth and cool.


Barnes (08:16):

He's so cool. So Goldberg is coming up.


Cubby (08:18):

Well, we've talked often how we love our gadgets, and the iPhone 12 is coming, and there are already rumors going around. Now, Leslie you're-


Leslie (08:27):

I'm a Samsung person. I know, I know.


Cubby (08:29):

Right, yeah. So you can go ahead and take your headphones off. We don't need you. But Barnes-


Leslie (08:33):

Okay. What's going on with the 12?


Cubby (08:34):

Well, every time a new phone comes out there's always rumors going around on how it's going to look and all that. So they're saying it is going to be called iPhone 12. Some people were speculating maybe they're going to just change that up because they keep going in order, but it is going to be called the iPhone 12, and there's going to be four different iPhones. Now, Barnes, you're probably the Pro Max kind of guy, right?


Barnes (08:54):

I'm already on 14, bro.


Leslie (08:55):



Cubby (08:55):

What do you mean?


Barnes (08:56):

Apple hooks me up. I'm two ahead.


Cubby (08:57):

Shut up, you're such a liar.


Leslie (08:57):



Barnes (08:58):

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. You know these leaks come from Apple.


Cubby (09:02):

They do to get the hype going, right?


Barnes (09:03):



Cubby (09:04):

The iPhone 12, the iPhone 12 Pro, and the 12 Pro Max are the rumors. Apparently they're going to be bringing back the squared edges, which I'm not a huge fan of but ...


Barnes (09:18):

And metal I heard.


Cubby (09:19):

Right, around the edges and the corners like iPhone 4 and 5. They're going to be bringing that back. They always say this every time that they have a new phone coming, but apparently the camera is getting better, a new camera.


Leslie (09:32):

I think we should just all go back to the flip phone.


Barnes (09:33):



Cubby (09:34):

Hey, they've come back too.


Barnes (09:35):

Totally have, StarTech's.


Cubby (09:36):

They really have. Also, according to the rumors the iPhone 12 the 5G seems inevitable. 2020 is prime to be a big year for the rollout of 5G, and a lot of people are wondering if iPhones are going to support 5G, and it looks like it will. One more thing, look for a very powerful charger. You're going to be charging in no time.


Barnes (09:57):

They may be changing it, Cubby, right? They're going to change possibly from lightning to the C.


Cubby (10:01):

The braided lightning charging cables.


Barnes (10:04):

Oh, the braided one?


Cubby (10:05):



Barnes (10:05):

And then there's a rumor that they may not give you the cable with the phone.


Cubby (10:08):

Which is another way to make money, right, because you have to buy it.


Barnes (10:10):

Yeah, I'm assuming. It's getting ridiculous.


Leslie (10:13):

Apple loves to do that.


Barnes (10:14):

I'm surprised they're releasing it, and they're saying September 5th. I'm surprised they're doing it.


Cubby (10:18):



Barnes (10:18):

No, not the fifth.


Cubby (10:19):

No, I'm already hearing mid-October all because of COVID. And that could be right. Again, this is the rumor mill.


Barnes (10:26):

I heard mid-October was laptops, and then the phones were coming in September. But I could be wrong. They always do it around that date, but during COVID when people are strapped for cash who is going to buy a $1,500 phone?


Cubby (10:38):



Barnes (10:39):

All right, show me some sleaze, Fram.


Leslie (10:41):

Well, the world lost a TV icon. Regis Philbin dying at the age of 88. I don't know if you guys saw this or not, but Letterman had just such an amazing tribute to him. He said he was like the Johnny Carson of television, the master communicator. Do you know that Letterman had him on more than any other guest, up to I think 130 to 150 times. Regis was his number one guest.


Barnes (11:08):

I was just surprised. I don't know why, he's 88. I don't know why I was so shocked to see it, that story come across.


Cubby (11:14):

Because we didn't hear he was sick.


Leslie (11:15):

He held the world's most ... According to the Guinness Book of World Records, he was on TV more than anybody else, guess how many hours?


Cubby (11:24):

Oh my god, 20,000, I don't know.


Leslie (11:26):

Yeah, 16,700 hours. It's really funny because last year I had a chance to talk to Kathie Lee Gifford because she moved to Nashville. That was an era on television where they were master story tellers, and she couldn't have said enough amazing things about Regis.


Cubby (11:41):

I can't believe you're talking about this, Leslie, because coming up later when I do my pop this week in pop culture I have a whole thing with Kathie Lee, and her final episode was actually this week 20 years ago. But I have the audio of her signing off, so listen for that coming up here in a few minutes.


Leslie (11:56):

Really crazy week with Kanye West and the Twitter rants that he had. It's sad because he suffers ... He's bipolar, and a lot of people are really upset and concerned about his mental health, but he did come out over the last 48 hours and apologize to his wife, Kim Kardashian. "I want to say I know I hurt you. Please forgive me. Thank you for always being there for me," because he accused her of many things, locking him up and being a white supremacist for apparently doing what she wasn't supposed to do which was speak about him publicly.


Barnes (12:28):

Little late on that apology, just a little. The damage might be done.


Leslie (12:31):

He said that Kris Jenner was Kris Jong-un like Kim Jong-un. Yeah, it was really sad, but apparently now he's apologizing. We'll see what happens. Justin Bieber went and visited him out in Colorado.


Barnes (12:42):

Well that should make everything better.


Leslie (12:45):

Yeah it should ... Speaking of the Jenners, Kylie, 22-year-old Kylie was you know is a billionaire, right? She has her own cosmetic company. She bought her daughter, Stormy, her dream pony that cost $200,000.


Cubby (12:56):

That's in their cup holder, probably in the car, $200,000.


Leslie (13:01):

Yeah, and she paid an extra $7,000 to $10,000 to fly the pony from LA to The Netherlands or from the Netherlands, and the pony is now in coronavirus, the pony is now in quarantine.


Barnes (13:14):

Wouldn't you like to be a supplier to them because you know you could just 10X whatever you're selling, 10 to 20X whatever the price is. Like how much is it? A friend of mine has a place called Classic Collision in Atlanta, and I went to go pick up a car one time, and one of their cars was there because he had the only shade of the specific blue that they were painting the Bentley. So they shipped the Bentley to him. They painted this Bentley this ridiculous powder blue, and then it goes back to them. These people just throw money around.


Cubby (13:44):

What are we doing wrong?


Barnes (13:45):

It's unreal.


Leslie (13:45):

200,000 though for her is like, what, 200 to us maybe.


Cubby (13:49):

I know.


Leslie (13:49):

Because she's a billionaire.


Barnes (13:51):

It starts with a sex tape, people.


Leslie (13:54):

Is that the key? That's the secret.


Barnes (13:56):

That's the secret.


Cubby (13:56):

Well that's how you and Leslie started your whole thing.


Leslie (13:59):

Yeah, exactly.


Cubby (13:59):

Back in the early '90s.


Leslie (14:01):

Let me just say this. One of the most heart wrenching things has been reading the Instagram posts from Orlando Bloom who is destroyed over losing his dog. Latest post, he did get a tattoo of his dog, Mighty, on his chest. "Mighty's on the other side now after seven days of searching from sunrise to sunset into the wee hours today, the seventh day we found his collar." It's a really long post, but it's really heart warming, and he basically searched the neighborhood. Every nook and cranny, but he just went on to say that they just had this amazing bond. Were you following those Instagram posts?


Cubby (14:40):

I was, I was, and I kept thinking well new baby coming soon, so there's a lot going on in their house. I was wondering when ... Isn't Katie due any moment now?


Leslie (14:50):

Yeah, so you think the hormones were hitting him?


Cubby (14:52):

Yeah, it probably was.


Barnes (14:54):

It's like corona, within six feet.


Leslie (14:57):

Now you guys know I've been obsessed with the Johnny Depp trial, but the funny thing this past week ... And he's been accusing her of having all these affairs, but his nicknames for people. He called Leonardo DiCaprio Pumpkin Head, and he called Channing Tatum, Potato Head, so it's really funny to hear what Johnny Depp says about all these other actors he thought Amber was having an affair with. I'm so into it. Barnes, Big Brother All-Stars premiering August fifth, the COVID-19 edition.


Barnes (15:29):

Oh yes, all-stars, 20th season.


Leslie (15:32):

You are such a Big Brother fan. I never got it.


Cubby (15:35):

[inaudible 00:15:35]. Do you watch it live or do you DVR it and catch up?


Barnes (15:37):

Are you kidding? I'm only, like, 10 minutes behind so I can miss the commercials, or 15 minutes, but no I watch it the night it ... You know when it came out it was on every night of the week originally.


Cubby (15:45):

I remember that. That was like what, '02.


Barnes (15:48):

Ish, yeah. And then it went to three nights a week I think, and now it's three or four. I'm there every night that it's on. You'll have to ... This is the time to get on, which quickly interject. Give me something to watch on Netflix, Leslie.


Leslie (15:59):

There's a ton of stuff.


Barnes (16:01):

I asked for one. Give me two, give me two things.


Leslie (16:03):

Okay. I'm going to give you two things, one that I just finished that I'm obsessed with, The Last Dance, about the Bulls and Michael Jordan.


Barnes (16:10):

Way to be on top of that, Fram, that's so March COVID.


Cubby (16:13):



Leslie (16:13):

Well it's new to Netflix so a lot of people are actually watching it now that didn't see it on ESPN. Fear City, about the Mafia in New York in the '70s and '80s.


Barnes (16:22):

I'm watching that.


Leslie (16:23):

What do you think so far?


Barnes (16:24):

It's good. It's very good. It's talking about how the Mafia, they're comparing it to some of the other cities right now like Chicago and Atlanta where all the crime is happening. It's where they're trying to take the city back, and New York was just so bad. And it goes through the five crime families. It's quite interesting.


Leslie (16:38):

Now, are your wives into chick flicks?


Barnes (16:40):

I only have one.


Leslie (16:41):

Well, Cubby is on the show too.


Cubby (16:43):

I'm on the show too.


Barnes (16:44):

Oh, I thought you were talking to me still. You're like, "Are your wives." I moved from Salt Lake City ... No, I never lived there.


Cubby (16:51):

My wife, Cocoa, we watch Married at First Sight.


Barnes (16:55):

Oh, that's good. See, you get on me for watching Big Brother, but you watch Married at First Sight.


Cubby (16:59):

Well Big Brother is just kind of played out to me, but Married at First Sight, 90-Day Fiance, and they have like a million 90 days.


Barnes (17:05):

I heard that's great.


Cubby (17:06):

You have 90-Day The Other Way, 90-Day This Way, 90-Day That Way. There's a million 90 Days but they're good.


Leslie (17:11):

Yeah, because Kissing Booth 2 is on Netflix.


Barnes (17:13):

Oh God.


Cubby (17:14):

Leslie, what do all your husbands watch?


Leslie (17:18):

Well, we love a lot of dramas, seriously love dramas. But I will tell you he did like The Crown, and it is coming back but not until 2022 because of COVID.


Cubby (17:30):

Everything's COVID.


Leslie (17:30):

It's unbelievable.


Barnes (17:31):

I have a good one for you both on Netflix. I told you about Liar, and you haven't watched it yet, Leslie, because you would have told me you did, and you're missing out.


Leslie (17:39):

I haven't watched it yet.


Barnes (17:39):

Cubby, do you have Netflix? You do right?


Cubby (17:41):

I do. We don't have time with the baby, but yeah.


Barnes (17:43):

I give you more of a break than Leslie. Liar is good, but you want to skip right to another British I would call it Liar meets The Affair, which The Affair I loved on-


Leslie (17:54):

I loved The Affair on Showtime.


Barnes (17:54):

Okay, okay, we're connecting Leslie.


Leslie (17:57):

I loved that show. Okay, go ahead.


Barnes (17:58):

Watch Doctor Foster. I believe there's two seasons. Doctor Foster, it's a woman who believes her husband is having an affair. First episode will get you, especially the last 15 minutes.


Leslie (18:09):



Barnes (18:09):

You need to watch Doctor Foster on Netflix.


Cubby (18:12):

There's something I want to say about all these shows. Everybody wants to recommend shows to their friends, and then the friends always say, "I'll put it on my list," but there is no list.


Barnes (18:21):

Yeah, there is.


Cubby (18:22):

Everyone's lying when they say that. "I'll put it on my list." There's too much to watch.


Barnes (18:26):

No, but there's the Netflix list.


Cubby (18:28):

No, but I'm saying you're passionate about something. You're trying to sell Leslie on watching the show. Leslie will say, "All right, I'll put it on my list," but Leslie will you ever get to it?


Leslie (18:37):

Well here's the thing. Most of the stuff I've been watching lately have been recommendations from people like Barnes about The Last Dances, Billions. A lot of stuff have been recommendations, and then of course I fall in love with these shows and then I'm obsessed with them.


Cubby (18:50):



Barnes (18:51):

Get into ... You can go back to Liar, but I think you should skip ahead to Doctor Foster.


Leslie (18:54):

All right, I can do that.


Barnes (18:55):

And then you'll want to watch ... They're very different, but similar tone. They're UK.


Leslie (19:00):

Have you guys ... Have you watched anything on Quibi?


Barnes (19:05):

No, I'm not buying into the hype.


Leslie (19:06):

Because now Samuel L. Jackson and Ryan Reynolds are partnering for something on Quibi. I haven't watched anything on there yet. I know a lot of people are excited that Shark Week is coming back on Discovery August 9th, and then there's SharkFest.


Barnes (19:20):

Turks and Caicos.


Leslie (19:21):

On Nat Geo. How did this happen? Happy 40th birthday to Caddyshack.


Cubby (19:28):

They actually had it on over the weekend. AMC was airing it. They had a marathon on. It was great, with the 40th logo on there, it was pretty cool.


Audio (19:34):

I want you to kill every gopher on the course.


Audio (19:38):

Check me if I'm wrong, Sandy, but if I kill all the golfers they're going to lock me up and throw away the key.


Audio (19:45):

Gophers, [inaudible 00:19:45] not golfers. The little brown, furry rodents.


Audio (19:47):

We can do that.


Cubby (19:48):

Such a classic. Great clip by the way, but come on, you didn't have Rodney. Rodney was ...


Barnes (19:54):

No, I just thought it was so overplayed. Rodney's always the clip.


Leslie (19:57):

This is really strange, I didn't realize this by the little bit of trivia. Harold Ramis had realized that his two biggest stars never appeared together, so I guess they had lunch one day and wrote a little scene so that Bill Murray and Chevy Chase could appear together. And then he also said that originally he wanted the theme to be all Pink Floyd. Of course, I don't know if that would've worked out.


Cubby (20:16):



Barnes (20:16):

That'd be strange.


Leslie (20:17):

Dark Side of the Moon instead of I'm All Right by Kenny Loggins. And finally, this is not going away. Lifetime is now getting into the Jeffrey Epstein business. Yup, they got a movie coming out, the Jeffrey Epstein Movie.


Barnes (20:32):

So they got something completely different than the Netflix thing?


Leslie (20:34):

Yeah, they're going to talk about some of the survivors.


Audio (20:37):

I was 19. He began to touch me aggressively. It quickly turned into an assault.


Audio (20:42):

He forced oral sex on me right there. And the more I kept trying to resist the more fun he was having.


Audio (20:48):

I was 14. I told him to stop. He told me, "I'll stop if you just take your underwear off."


Audio (20:54):

He want's to do whatever he wants to do.


Audio (20:55):

At 16 what happens if I say no.


Audio (20:58):

I'm going to fight back.


Audio (20:59):

Chilling firsthand accounts from those who lived it. Surviving Jeffrey Epstein, a two night event, premiers Sunday, August 9th at 8:00, only on Lifetime.


Leslie (21:09):

And there's your celebrity sleaze.


Barnes (21:11):

Let's talk music quickly. Some people dropped some stuff this week, and I want to play you a couple of clips so you're in the know of what's going on in the music landscape, the biggest one being Taylor Swift with a surprise album.


Leslie (21:21):



Barnes (21:22):

She was hunkered down during corona and created this album over that time, and the numbers are unbelievable. That Cardigan video got 20 million views in one day. They sold 1.3 million in one day. Spotify 80 million streams. That's a record by a female artist in one day. Apple Music 35 million streamed. That's a record.


Leslie (21:47):

Again, folklore, and I'll tell you it just proves again what a great songwriter she is.


Barnes (21:51):

So I went to ... I called my daughter because if you want to get to the source of what's good on the Taylor Swift you call the daughter who is 18, and I said, "Okay." She lives and breathes if Taylor does something she's on it. I said, "What's the best song?" She said to me the best song was The Last Great American Dynasty, and here's a clip.


Taylor Swift (22:12):



Barnes (22:42):

So she says that's the best on.


Cubby (22:44):

It kind of reminds me of Jewel in a weird way.


Barnes (22:46):



Cubby (22:47):

That Jewel sound, which is not a slam. I love Jewel, but Taylor is huge as we all know. It just has that 1996 Jewel feel.


Barnes (22:55):

I listened to the whole album, Folklore, and I thought it was ... It's super chill for sure. I mean she's-


Leslie (23:00):

I think that's the best song on the record too, that and Cardigan, so I agree with your daughter, Barnes.


Barnes (23:04):

There you go. Maybe she's a music in the making, a music director.


Leslie (23:06):

Yeah, A&R Director.


Cubby (23:08):

I was reading that she did all this during quarantine because I had heard she had a lot of stuff stockpiled from past work like in the last year, and I thought for sure she just put this out with all the extras she never got to, but apparently this is all in the last few months.


Leslie (23:24):

Brand new.


Cubby (23:24):

Yeah, brand new.


Leslie (23:24):

I liked the Lover record too.


Cubby (23:25):

Yeah, it was great too.


Barnes (23:26):

Some more new music that dropped, August Alsina. You know that name because that is the dude that was in the entanglement with what's her name.


Leslie (23:34):

Jada Pinkett Smith.


Barnes (23:35):

Yeah. What's weird, guys, and I said this when we first reported on that when it came out, that August Alsina the name of this song is Entanglements. She made a point when Will Smith was talking about her being in a situation she called it an entanglement and corrected him. And I thought all along this was some big weird marketing play. What's going on here?


Leslie (23:55):

So you don't think he wrote this right after she said entanglement?


Barnes (23:58):



Leslie (23:58):

You think this song was kind of in the can for a while?


Barnes (24:00):

No. He's been working on this album for two or three years.


Leslie (24:03):

Yeah. It's strange.


Barnes (24:04):

It's just strange that she's trying to make things better, and she's like, "No, it was an entanglement, E-N-T-A-N-G ..." Yeah, listen. Here, I have two clips. This is very weird. There are mentions about her and Will Smith. Rick Ross raps on this, so I kind of dig the rap. But here's one of the hooks from Entanglement.


August Alsina (24:34):



Cubby (24:34):

So, it seems fishy.


Barnes (24:36):

It seems fishy. Even more fishy, listen to the Rick Ross rap. Tell me how many ... Listen closely. Tell me how many Will Smith things you hear in here.


Rick Ross (24:46):



Barnes (25:20):

See. There's a few of them in there. Will power, and he talked about The Matrix. Remember when Will Smith was up for The Matrix and didn't get it.


Cubby (25:29):



Barnes (25:30):

Just strange.


Leslie (25:30):

I do think that Will Smith ... By the way, I love him as an actor. I think he loves to control the narrative. They both do. And I think they're trying to say, "Everything's okay."


Barnes (25:40):

But they're up to something.


Cubby (25:41):

Yeah. They're trying to get us all talking.


Leslie (25:44):

There have been questions about that marriage for years.


Barnes (25:47):

Must be a cut. Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani who if there was ever like, "Ooh, that gross happy couple," it is them. They are just so in love it is oozing from every wall. They put this out, this song called Happy Anywhere. Tell me what the problem is here, okay. This is Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani. Listen to this clip and tell me what is missing. Again, this is Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani, Happy Anywhere. Tell me what's missing.


Speaker 17 (26:12):



Barnes (26:33):

What's missing?


Leslie (26:35):



Cubby (26:36):



Barnes (26:36):

Gwen Stefani. Her mix is so buried.


Cubby (26:38):

Right. You can barely hear her.


Leslie (26:40):

It's on Blake's new record, but I can tell you that the video, we premiered it on CMT and MTV premiered the video it's adorable. They're at his complex. They are in love. Let me just say that, in love.


Barnes (26:53):

We need to get him on the show, Fram. Come on.


Leslie (26:55):

He's a really good guy, but he's so busy.


Barnes (26:57):

I don't care.


Leslie (26:57):

Now obviously he does two seasons of The Voice every year, but he did this-


Barnes (27:02):

Come on.


Leslie (27:02):

Let me ask you about this. He did this Encore, you know the company that's doing all the drive-in concerts. He did the drive-in concert over the weekend. Gwen appeared as well and some other Country artists, but 300 drive-in theaters around the country, but it's a pre-taped concert. It was $100 a car, so you go in-


Barnes (27:20):

Why would you pay that?


Leslie (27:21):

It's $100 a car, so you can have six people in the car. Sold out everywhere, 300 drive-ins to see a taped concert. That's what the new norm is now. Garth Brooks did it. Would you go to a drive-in for a pre-taped.


Barnes (27:34):



Leslie (27:34):

Unless it was something you just wanted to have some fun with your friends.


Cubby (27:37):

Why so expensive? Why was it 100 bucks?


Leslie (27:38):

Per car.


Cubby (27:40):

Per car. Oh, because you could have, like, five people in the car.


Leslie (27:43):

You could have up to six people in a car.


Cubby (27:44):

Oh, I get it. Right.


Barnes (27:44):

Get money, get paid. The last one we talked about Taylor Swift is so great at re-inventing herself. Every single time she puts out an album she takes a turn and goes a different direction. Here is the complete antithesis of that in a group that never takes a turn and puts out the same thing every single time. Have a listen. Tell me who it is.


Speaker 18 (28:01):



Barnes (28:01):

It's the same very time.


Cubby (28:02):

Yup, and it'll be a huge hit.


Speaker 18 (28:02):



Barnes (28:10):

When are they going to change the name of the band to Adam Levine? Because they don't even let the band in the videos anymore, and when did he shave his head? I somehow missed that.


Leslie (28:29):

He always has a different look. If you ever watched him on The Voice he had a different look every season, but ...


Barnes (28:33):

Shaved his head, and now he has a full on beard like something you would see the pilgrims out in the middle of nowhere. It's a completely different look.


Cubby (28:44):

But man, I tell you what, they've had a run though, right?


Barnes (28:45):

Amish, yeah. I like Maroon 5, but it's just funny. It's like they recorded 700 songs the first time they got together, and they're just putting out 10 every time.


Leslie (28:54):

He does have an amazing voice, though. You have to admit that.


Cubby (28:56):

I like them.


Barnes (28:57):

He totally does. I got off at the airport at LAX one time, and he was sitting in the very front waiting to get on the plane, and he had a black cap pulled down over his head. He's a stud. The guy is just like a super rockstar who's ... I like their first album better than any of them.


Cubby (29:10):

Have you ran into everybody at some point, Barnes?


Barnes (29:13):

I ran into Rick Ross at FedEx.


Cubby (29:15):

There you go. You need to have a weekly feature like who I ran into.


Barnes (29:18):

Just on people I ran into this week.


Cubby (29:19):

Yeah, who I ran into this week.


Barnes (29:20):

He was in a metallic silver either Lamborghini or Ferrari like it was a mirror, like a complete mirror. And he was a mess at the counter trying to get all of his stuff organized to send out.


Leslie (29:32):

When you run into somebody at the airport do you go up and talk to them?


Barnes (29:35):

At the airport?


Leslie (29:36):

Yeah, like if you saw-


Cubby (29:36):

Not unless I'm a really big fan.


Leslie (29:37):

Kind of give them their space.


Barnes (29:39):

Only person I have done ... Two people, Johnnie Cochran-


Leslie (29:42):



Barnes (29:43):

... and Tom Landry.


Cubby (29:46):

Oh yeah, that's huge.


Barnes (29:47):

The two that you're never going to get another shot.


Leslie (29:50):

Yeah, I can see that. I can see that.


Cubby (29:52):

A lot of times I want to do it just because I want the ... Do it for the gram like for Facebook. But I usually don't go up to them because I feel bad. I don't want to bother them.


Leslie (30:02):

I did my first virtual concert a few days ago. Obviously I'm watching stuff on Facebook Live and Instagram but I went into Veeps, which is much ... There's a lot of these platforms out there now. There's Sessions and Mystro and StageIt. But Pete Yorn did his legendary album, Music From the Morning After. Barnes and I were able to play that when we worked at 99X. That record's like 2001, but he did the whole album from beginning to end, I liked the program because tickets start at 15 bucks, but then you can pay more and they give you these fun different levels. And I went ahead and just said, "I'm going to give them 100 bucks," since I was like, "Yeah, I get a hug for 100 bucks." It was really cool, and then if course I love watching the chat because you've got people from all over the world. So this may be the new norm for concerts for the next few years.


Barnes (30:48):

You paid for a virtual hug?


Leslie (30:50):

No, I paid 100 bucks for Pete Yorn because I love him. It was fun.


Barnes (30:54):

Women love them some Yorn.


Leslie (30:55):

Love Pete Yorn.


Barnes (30:57):

Man, they love that guy.


Cubby (30:58):

But you're right, Leslie. That is going to be the new norm for at least another year or two. All right, we've got somebody waiting to get on, and we cannot keep them waiting long because he'll kick our ass. Let's watch a scene first from his sitcom, which is so funny seeing him in this role. This is Bill Goldberg on The Goldbergs.


Goldberg (31:15):

Let's go. Come on 58. What the Hell is that. This ain't Sunday school. You're as useless as your communication degree. Well look at that, a tea party broke out at a football game. Get up, Lopez. I'll say when you have heat stroke.


Speaker 20 (31:33):

That's Miller's brother. Look at him. It's like this coach ate our coach.


Speaker 21 (31:37):

All I see is a big teddy bear who aches for his brother's love.


Goldberg (31:41):

What the Hell do you think you're doing, Blondie?


Speaker 21 (31:43):

I'm here to bring the Miller boys back together. It's time to fix things with Coach Rick, Coach Nick.


Goldberg (31:48):

My brother, pass.


Barnes (31:53):

You know when that music sounds just like Batman, he appears. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Goldberg on The Pop Culture Show. Hey Bill.


Goldberg (32:02):

God, that never gets old, you know.


Barnes (32:03):

No, I want to play that just when I get up in the morning and I walk out of my bedroom.


Goldberg (32:07):

Well, sometimes they need it as inspiration to get in the shower, but you know. Everybody needs their little push in the morning any damn day.


Barnes (32:19):

Are you working somewhere, are you at home right now, where are you?


Goldberg (32:23):

I'm working right by my pool.


Barnes (32:26):



Goldberg (32:27):

If you can imagine one of the maybe five or 10 places that you've thrown in front of me over the past 10 years as far as vacation spots to spend a couple days. Pick one of those out, and that's kind of where I am.


Barnes (32:44):

What he's talking about, Leslie and Cubby is a few times we'll put the siren out if I get a call from a big hotel chain that's saying, "We need you to film here. We've got a villa." So I'll call Goldberg sometimes and go, "Dude, we've got this 18-bedroom villa in Anguilla," and he'll be like, "Goddammit, let me figure this out." And he's trying to shuffle around, "I've got this and I've got that." That's what he's talking about. So now he's got his own paradise.


Goldberg (33:11):

Yeah, it sucks. I haven't been able to go man. [inaudible 00:33:13] take you up on our wonderful offer.


Leslie (33:15):

So Bill, do you mind being called Bill or do you want to just be called Goldberg?


Goldberg (33:19):

Come on Leslie, you can call me anything you want.


Leslie (33:22):

So Goldberg ... No. You're career has just been amazing, obviously from being a super athlete to acting. What's been the most rewarding for you?


Goldberg (33:32):

Well first and foremost, Leslie, for you to characterize it as amazing is a reach to say the least, but I think the longevity I guess needs ... The amazing part is that I've been able to reinvent myself I think. I haven't been great at anything by any stretch of the imagination. But once I feel the need or the quality wanes I turn the corner and try to do something else. Back in the day when we were all doing our thing back in Atlanta those were the greatest times. They really were, whether it was winning in front of 45,000 people at The Dome or standing on the sidelines trying to get in for the Falcons for three or four years, playing in the celebrity softball games. I've done a lot of cool things in my life, but those are the ones with your good friends that you cherish. Those are the ones that make memories.


Cubby (34:29):

I have to ask, Wikipedia isn't always right. Are you 6'2" and 266. That's what it says right now. Are you current six foot two, 266? Is that accurate or off base?


Goldberg (34:41):

Well I've been hit in the head with a number of chairs but not that many. I would've shrunk a number of inches but I'm 6'4" and about 270.


Barnes (34:51):

Cubby and Leslie, funny story about Goldberg. One time I was visiting him at his house when he lived outside of San Diego, and we went to lunch, and we went to this little place, I don't even remember what it's called. It was a small Mom and Pop regular old place, and we went in, and I ordered a grilled chicken and a whatever. Goldberg ordered, like, seven entrees. You mentioned the 6'4" or two, whatever. He orders all these entrees and the people knew him there, like the people that worked there. So they come with the massive, like the whole team has to bring out his entrees, and they line them up in front of him, and he just one at a time methodically just e…

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