Mom Drove into NYC Amid the COVID-19 Crisis
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Sandra Morales’ mom made a life-threatening decision as COVID-19 escalated in New York City. Family therapist Evelyn Hernandez Brown listens in and helps us with setting boundaries, adjusting expectations, and the work that follows in the “repair” phase.

Our expert, Evelynn Hernandez-Brown, is a licensed marriage and family therapist in Oakland, California. She specializes in culturally responsible therapy methods for adults. She joins the podcast to talk about better ways to communicate with a loved one when you are feeling overwhelmed and frustrated.

You can visit Evelynn's website to learn more about her practice. If you loved this episode, be sure to check out Trying to Warn Mom about COVID-19 from Afar and When Helping Leaves You Feeling Bad After.

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