Democracy Sausage podcast: Australia in an age of instability
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This week marks 80 years since Hitler invaded Poland, but are there lessons from history about the rise of China? On this week’s Democracy Sausage podcast we talk to Hugh White about a new cold war, the nuclear taboo, find out how to defend Australia, and ask whether the China choice has already been made for us.

Mark Kenny is a Senior Fellow in the ANU Australian Studies Institute. He came to the university after a high-profile journalistic career including six years as chief political correspondent and national affairs editor for The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, and The Canberra Times.

Marija Taflaga is a lecturer in the ANU School of Politics and International Relations. Her major research is on political parties and particularly the Liberal Party of Australia. She has previously worked in the Australian Parliamentary Press Gallery as a researcher at The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age.

Hugh White is professor of Strategic Studies at the Australian National University in Canberra and author of How to Defend Australia. His work focuses primarily on Australian strategic and defence policy, Asia-Pacific security issues, and global strategic affairs especially as they influence Australia and the Asia-Pacific.

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