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The Art of Accomplishment
Joe Hudson and Brett Kistler
Welcome to the Art of Accomplishment, where we explore a way of communicating and building connection in business, personal and internal life.
May 13, 2022
Will Chesney — Reintegrating as a Combat Veteran, Surviving a Traumatic Brain Injury and Transcending an Old Identity
Will Chesney found identity and purpose as a Navy SEAL, one of the military’s most elite teams, where he was required to perform calmly and effectively under the most extreme circumstances. However, years of neurological and psychological trauma left Will in a very dark place. Unable to do what he loved most or connect effectively with others, he turned to drinking and isolation. After hitting rock bottom, a friend reached out and invited Will to join him on a journey of self-discovery that allowed him to tap into his resilience and get himself back on his feet. Tune in as we learn what Will did to find healing and meaning in life after war. Will served in the U.S. Naval Special Warfare Development Group as an operator and a dog handler in the Osama Bin Laden raid. He was awarded a Silver Star and Purple Heart for his bravery. _"I woke up and it was me again at one point during the weekend. I know I was a SEAL and everybody always says, “Oh, we can't relate to what you've gone through.” But everybody has trauma. Every life is good but life’s hard sometimes. Everybody deals with trauma no matter what."_ What We Discuss in Episode 51: 02:41 The challenges of reintegrating into civilian life as a combat veteran. 05:51 The mindset and techniques that Navy SEALs use to remain calm and effective in any situation. 13:25 Navigating the depression and hardships that come with losing a core identity. 20:26 How humility is essential for executing any successful mission. 24:44 The reflection that put Will firmly on the path to recovery. **Full transcript coming soon! Check back HERE for the link.** Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
May 5, 2022
How to Tell if the Master Class Isn’t For You (Bonus Episode)
In this bonus episode: Joe and Brett respond to requests to know more about the Master class. They go through the story of how it was created, what it includes, and how it addresses root causes. Brett also asks Joe who the course would be good for and who should not take it.
Apr 29, 2022
Connection: A State Beyond States
We talk a lot about connection in this podcast — connection with ourselves, our emotions, our relationships and with the world around us. It’s essentially what we’re pointing to in every topic we discuss. In today’s episode, we talk about why that is, and how orienting toward connection in all aspects of our lives facilitates sustained expansion, increases our capacity, and puts us in touch with something bigger than ourselves. _“And the truth is that you're being in connection with yourself and others is not dependent on anybody else because being in connection with what is doesn't require anybody else.”_ What We Discuss in Episode 50: 2:13 Defining connection as a "meta state" or a state that encompasses all states. 17:31 How being connected affects productivity and effectiveness in a team. 23:39 The physical sensations in your body that let you know you're in connection. 28:45 How to be with tension and still feel deeply connected to yourself. 32:48 Why connection is all internal and completely within your own locus of control. 38:16 How to drop back into connection when things get tough. **Full transcript coming soon! Check back HERE for the link.** Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Apr 15, 2022
Joe Sanok — Living on the Road, Opening to Heartbreak and Parenting as a Single Dad
In Episode 49, Brett interviews Joe Sanok, a business consultant and productivity researcher who, until recently, lived full-time in a camper with his wife and children. When he and his wife decided to uncouple, it changed both Joe’s and his children’s lives in a big way. Learn how Joe used his meditation practice and other self-exploration tools to allow his world to unfold beautifully through surrender to reality as it was rather than clinging to what he thought it should be. Joe’s latest book is "Thursday is the New Friday,” a book about the four-day work week. He’s also the host of the Practice of the Practice podcast. _"As soon as the sun came up at 5:30, I was wide awake. And so to say, I'm awake, what can I do to ground myself to be the dad I want to be? To be the person I want to be? To be the business owner I want to be? My strongest meditation practice started then and it came from a place of need rather than a place of, 'I should be doing this.'" _ What We Discuss in Episode 49: 2:48 The pivotal moment that changed the direction of Joe’s life. 9:40 Finding an internal locus of control and how it allows things to naturally unfold. 12:22 Parenting as a single dad in the midst of a major life transition. 18:46 Teaching nuance, healthy rewards and handling difficult emotions to children. 24:59 Boosting creativity and productivity by adopting a 32 hour-or-less work week. 29:09 Why slowing down is the first step to productivity. 32:06 Showing children how to find their own purpose without pattern matching to their parents. **Full transcript coming soon! Check back HERE for the link.** Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Apr 1, 2022
Limiting Beliefs: The Hidden Rails That Guide Our Lives
In this episode, we talk about limiting beliefs and how they run our lives, affecting our capacity to be with ourselves and live the life we want. We discuss how to find them, see through them, and discover what happens when these beliefs are no longer running the show. _“It's about being able to integrate new knowledge. And if you can't integrate new knowledge because you think you have the whole story, you're limited. Period.”_ What We Discuss in Episode 48: 2:51 Defining what limiting beliefs are and how they can impact your life. 12:27 How welcoming or resisting a situation shifts both your interpretation and experience of it. 17:15 The notion that integrating multiple perspectives creates better solutions. 22:14 The three general categories of limiting beliefs. 24:06 How to see through the limiting perspective by discovering it in reverse. 34:30 One of the most common limiting beliefs and questions to ask yourself to determine what relationship you have to it. **Full transcript coming soon! Check back HERE for the link.** Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Mar 18, 2022
What's So Scary About Boundaries?
What’s the difference between a boundary and an ultimatum? What happens when we use “boundaries” to control another person? In today’s episode, design researcher and strategy consultant Alexa Anderson joins Joe Hudson for a discussion on boundaries. Tune in to learn how drawing better boundaries can deepen relationships in work and life by immediately increasing our capacity to love. _"It’s scary if your boundary is accepted and the person loves you in your boundary, because that means the way that you have modeled the world in the past has to now change. And that means you have to change."_ What we discuss in Episode 47: 3:51 How optimal boundaries increase your capacity to love somebody. 8:25 Why walking on eggshells, caretaking and other people-pleasing behaviors are not the same thing as compassion. 9:35 The trap of trying to change the ones you love in hopes that it will make them happier. 13:46 How to hold boundaries in a work context. 20:33 The difference between a boundary and an ultimatum. 30:12 Resentment as an indicator that a boundary is not being drawn. 54:07 Why boundaries can be scary to set and difficult to hear. **Full transcript coming soon! Check back HERE for the link.** Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Mar 11, 2022
The Power of Gratitude in a Team (Bonus Episode)
After listening to our two-part series on building functional teams, it's easy to see all of the shortcomings in our teams and realize that we might have a ways to go before we can truly call our teams functional. This realization can result in shame and feelings of not being good enough. Once we realize that our brains are wired to focus more on what’s going wrong than on what’s going right, we can shift to a more balanced assessment using a powerful tool. Gratitude allows us to see how the things we might call “setbacks" or “failures” might actually be leading us to the success that we desire. Tune in to this bonus episode to learn about the power of gratitude in a team. _“I would say the real, core reason as to why people resist gratitude besides that it’s strange and awkward in the beginning is the fact that they’re scared that they won’t be prepared for the inevitable doom that is always around the corner if they are happy.”_ What we discuss in Episode 46: 1:27 Negative self-talk and how it contributes to the group dysfunction. 3:36 Having gratitude for the lack in your life and why that’s important. 7:40 Discerning between dissociative and embodied forms of gratitude. 8:04 A simple gratitude practice that can be easily used with teams and in families. **Full transcript coming soon! Check back HERE for the link.** Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Mar 4, 2022
Building a Dysfunctional Team - Team Series #2
Last week, we discussed the characteristics that set functional teams apart and how to build your own. In part two of this series, we explore the opposite: what makes a team dysfunctional and how to recognize the signs of one in your own organization. Some of the things that we discuss include why trading short-term discomfort for long-term discomfort is often counterproductive, the top characteristics of leaders who produce dysfunctional teams and the root of the dysfunctional behavior itself. Join us to learn how to identify these behaviors in your team and correct them so that you can cultivate a team culture where creativity, innovation and group cohesion thrive. _“The best way to measure if a team is dysfunctional is at the end of a meeting, do you feel invigorated or do you feel depleted?”_ What we discuss in Episode 45: 1:26 What makes a team dysfunctional and why dysfunctional teams exist despite their shortcomings. 9:50 Why innovation requires a functional team culture to thrive. 11:09 Characteristics of dysfunctional leaders and how they impact the team as a whole. 18:18 Signs to watch out for in teams that point to a lack of cohesion and effectiveness. 23:20 Practical steps that anyone can take to bring their team back into alignment. 25:42 The root of dysfunctional team behavior and how it relates to unprocessed emotions. **Full transcript coming soon! Check back HERE for the link.** Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Feb 18, 2022
Building a Functional Team - Team Series #1
Every functional team is context-dependent on some level. Functionality looks different for a team of Navy Seals than it does for a team at a food processing center. However, there are qualities that all functional teams share. How are you meeting your goals and achieving results relative to other teams in your field? How much do people enjoy being a member of your team? How much do you trust that you will be seen, heard and respected when showing up as your authentic self? Tune in and learn more about what a functional team embodies and how to build your own. “I’ll go into teams and one of the things I’ll do immediately is ask everyone what they want from a team and they almost always agree on everything. Everybody really wants the same thing. If you start owning your wants and you start creating the vision of what you want the team to be, whether you are the head of the team or not, it doesn’t matter. Everybody wants it.” What we discuss in Episode 44: 1:15 The different types of functional teams and qualities that they all share. 7:05 Ways to determine whether your team is operating functionally. 11:50 Why trust is the foundation of a successful team and how to cultivate it. 18:42 The importance of putting the power of decision-making into the hands of the people who are contributing to the solution. 24:10 Ways to measure the success of a functional team and how it is context dependent. 31:57 Cultivating a team culture where people are encouraged to speak up and why it matters. **Full transcript coming soon! Check back HERE for the link.** Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Feb 11, 2022
Heather Falenski — Navigating Conflict Zones, Recovering from Chronic Illness, and Being Your Own Light
In today’s episode, Brett interviews Heather Falenski, documentary filmmaker, adventure athlete and humanitarian worker. Her early career included several years of working on the African continent with refugees and others displaced by war. She is the founder of One World Media, a film production company based in Boulder, Colorado. Heather led a fast-paced life working in some of the world’s most remote and challenging environments. Although her work was fulfilling, it was also physically and mentally taxing. It culminated into a severe chronic illness that left her bedridden for over a year. Heather discusses an epiphany that she had after hitting rock bottom that allowed her to move beyond impossible circumstances to regain health and stability. _“The greatest power that we have is to say: I AM that. And whatever “that” is, it’s what we’re defining ourselves to be. It’s what our concept of self is. We can define ourselves in any way that we want. We can say, I’m a filmmaker. I am healthy. I am respected. And once we hold that state as our dominant state of consciousness over a period of time, the outer world will start to conform and reflect that back to us.”_ What we discuss in Episode 43: 07:30 The urge to control outer conditions and why it often leads to failure. 10:30 Stabilizing your inner landscape as a way of getting consistent results in the outer world. 14:09 Unconditioned consciousness as your natural state beneath all of the things that you identify with. 19:00 How to consciously shift into a desired self-concept, rather than allowing it to be dictated by outer circumstances. 29:11 Gratitude as a state of allowing a process to unfold, even if it takes some unexpected turns. 32:04 How hitting rock bottom can lead you to the necessary conditions to completely recreate yourself. **Full transcript coming soon! Check back HERE for the link.** Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Feb 4, 2022
The Power Dynamics of Fear - Emotion Series #7
In today’s episode, we explore how fear underlies the power dynamics that develop in our relationships with others and within ourselves. When fear is present, we naturally desire to control outcomes by taking on a bully, victim or savior role that externalizes our fear and separates us from our truth. Tune in to join us as we discuss the difference between power and empowerment. We will explore how welcoming the emotions and resistance around undesired outcomes can allow us to exit the power dynamics and show up authentically, leading to deeper connection and more harmonious relationships. _“We all get scared sometimes and so we all also get into power dynamics sometimes. It’s just the way it is. It doesn’t matter how old you are and it doesn’t matter how much you’ve meditated. If there wasn’t some of this tension, we wouldn’t be alive.”_ What we discuss in Episode 42: 03:31 How fear creates power dynamics. 06:15 Fight, flight or freeze — the three ways that fea…
Jan 28, 2022
Jaime Waydo — Taking Care of Yourself First, Fearlessly Owning Your Desires, Speaking Your Truth and Designing Systems to Support You
In Episode 41, Brett interviews Jaime Waydo, Chief Technology Officer for Cavnue. Previously, Jaime led systems engineering at Waymo, Google’s Self Driving Car program, and collaborated with NASA on the Mars Rover Curiosity. Jaime came from a mindset passed down generationally that, especially as a woman, it was important to place everyone’s needs — children, spouse, employees — before her own. She quickly realized that this way of being led her to chronically running on empty, which neither benefited her nor her community. She pivoted to putting herself first: speaking her needs vulnerably, organizing systems to support her and designing a schedule that worked for her, transforming her work culture and her home life, while giving her the energy she needed to live life on her terms. Tune in to this episode to find out how she made it all happen. _“Let’s just look at this like a patient on the table. What are the symptoms? And then, what’s the next step in treatment? An…
Jan 21, 2022
Anxiety: A Signal to Unmet Needs - Emotion Series #6
Anxiety is a visceral experience of physical and emotional constriction that is hard to ignore. And yet, many of us engage in a maze of avoidant behaviors in an attempt to do just that. What happens when we see our anxiety as a signal pointing to unmet needs and the unfelt emotions around them? How can sitting with and feeling the sensations of anxiety result in profound internal and interpersonal shifts? Let anxiety be your guide as you tune into this episode. “To love it, to invite it. I can’t wait to be anxious again. When you’re at that place, that’s the real freedom, where you’re not trying to manage yourself. That’s where the real freedom is.” What we discuss in Episode 40: 3:15 Defining anxiety from the perspective of the “three brains” — the head, the heart and the gut. 9:15 Why we sometimes constrict ourselves from feeling the unfelt emotions that result in anxiety. 14:27 Anxiety as means of defending our sense of self and a signal pointing to an unmet…
Jan 14, 2022
Sam Altman — Leading with Crippling Anxiety, Discovering Meditation, and Building Intelligence with Self-Awareness
In this episode, Brett and Joe interview Sam Altman on how self-awareness gained through meditation can be combined with intelligence in business. Sam is an entrepreneur, investor and programmer. He is the CEO of OpenAI and the former president of Y Combinator. Sam discusses his experiences with meditation and how it has transformed his decision making and resulted in a much calmer, more joyous default state of being. He explains some of the most profound realizations that he has had about himself and humanity in general through his work with AI. Join us to hear more about how Sam arrived at a place of calm detachment that allowed him to respond to challenging and stressful situations with ease. “Intelligence and awareness, to me, seem like that have to go together.” What we discuss in Episode 39: 1:30 A realization that completely changed the way that Sam operates in business, the way he thinks about AI, and his life. 5:04 The moment Sam realized his old way of operating, fro…
Jan 7, 2022
Feeling into the Body
In VIEW work, we often talk about being in our body. There are practices and exercises in the courses where we’re invited to feel into our sensory experience and speak from our our heart or our gut, accessing deeper wisdom beyond our intellect. This can be very confusing for people when they approach this work for the first time. Today we’re going to explore what it means to cultivate awareness of what’s going on in our body and how it can help us access different kinds of knowing and wonder in our lives. “There’s a way that our brain processes that requires not thinking and being in your body is one of the things that helps that to happen.” What we discuss in Episode 38: 01:03 What it means to be in our body and why it’s so important for this work. 06:02 What it means to embrace the intensity and how it increases presence and creativity. 09:15 The difference between speaking and listening from the head, the heart and the gut. 13:33 How cultures that rely heavily on…
Dec 17, 2021
Healing Shame by Being Ourselves (Coaching Session)
Today’s episode involves a coaching session between Joe and a man in our community who has expressed the desire to have the courage to be himself despite fears of offending the people around him. By exploring triggers and feeling into the shame that underlies conflict avoidance, our guest finds that he can stay in connection with himself, even when others are angry with him. "To heal my shame, I need to feel it and like feel through it and learn about it." **Full transcript can be found here: https://artofaccomplishment.com/2021/12/17/episode-37-healing-shame-by-being-ourselves-coaching-session/ Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Dec 10, 2021
Fear: A Path to Authenticity - Emotion Series #5
Most of the things that we do not understand, we fear. But what if the very path we fear also leads us to our most authentic selves? Approaching our fear allows us to go places and understand things that we wouldn't be able to otherwise. Join us in a conversation where we unpack what it means to use fear as a tool and an ally. **Full transcript can be found here: https://artofaccomplishment.com/2021/12/10/episode-36-fear-a-path-to-authenticity-emotion-series-5/ Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Dec 3, 2021
Carla Piñeyro Sublett on Finding Compassion in Self-Indulgence
In Episode 35, Brett interviews Carla Piñeyro Sublett, Chief Marketing Officer and Senior Vice President of IBM on a heart-opening experience that radically altered the dynamic of her business and personal relationships. Carla came from a mindset that doing self work was self-indulgent. Stemming from that belief, she took on the role of being a manager of herself, her emotions and others around her. Through a sequence of transformative self-discoveries, she uncovered a greater capacity for love that was immediately felt and reflected back to her by her family and colleagues. In this episode, we follow Carla on an exploration of how making space to allow her own feelings to be felt invited others to do the same, thereby shifting the dynamics of her relationships both to herself and others into profound alignment. "As I was going up on stage, one of my peers grabbed me and he said hey Carla, I am going to tell you something. I said what. He said I love you. That just doesn’t happen.…
Nov 19, 2021
What is Selfishness?
Much of the work that we do in this podcast centers around defining our needs and desires — living into our own self interest, while loving it and trusting it as good. This can conflict with some of the programming that we have gotten from parents and society, which tells us that we should strive for selflessness and avoid selfishness. But what if self interest has the power to lead us to a more refined understanding of what makes us happy? In this episode, we will dive into the distinction between healthy self interest and what society calls selfishness. "All self-interest it seems leads, if you allow it to, a more refined understanding of what makes us happy." **Full transcript can be found here: https://artofaccomplishment.com/2021/11/19/episode-34-selfishness/ Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Nov 12, 2021
Stacy Brown-Philpot on Reclaiming Abandonment
Brett and Joe interview Stacy Brown-Philpot, former CEO of Task Rabbit and founding member of the Softbank Opportunity Fund, on her journey through childhood abandonment to self discovery. Stacy identified that by choosing the path of self-exploration, she was able to feel through difficult emotions of fear and anger to find deeper love and joy. We will learn how her willingness to confront her past traumas has helped her become a more honest and empathetic business woman. "You want to really work on yourself that deeply to process emotions like fear and anger, and on the other side of it is love and joy. How does that happen? The answer is it is a journey, and my journey is very different than what someone else’s journey might be. But the important thing is to be willing to take a step, one step." **Full transcript can be found here: https://artofaccomplishment.com/2021/11/12/episode-33-stacy-brown-philpot-on-reclaiming-abandonment/ Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment…
Oct 29, 2021
The Wisdom of Anger: Part II - Emotion Series #4
In last week’s episode on anger, we discussed some of the theoretical ways that this emotion impacts our relationships, families and society. In this second episode, we will follow up on what we learned last week by taking a deeper look into how repressed anger might show up and flow through us as individuals. "If you are following the mind, it’s very hard to allow anger to move cleanly. Whether your story is they are absolutely wrong and they deserve this, or your story is no, they deserve compassion. Any kind of thick story around it is going to really make the anger have a hard time coming out in a clean way." **Full transcript can be found here: https://artofaccomplishment.com/2021/10/29/episode-32-the-wisdom-of-anger-part-ii-emotion-series-4/ Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Oct 22, 2021
The Wisdom of Anger: Part I - Emotion Series #3
"I think it’s most dangerous if someone is like I should be good with other people’s anger. No, you shouldn’t. You either are or you are not. If you aren’t, take care of yourself. If you are, great, lean in. Just worry about loving your own anger, and all the rest of it will take care of itself." It may be that the most misunderstood and hated emotion in our society is anger. At some point in probably everyone’s life, words spoken in anger have cut us deep to the bone. Actions taken from a place of rage have broken relationships and door hinges and turned families and societies against themselves, but where would we be without our anger? How can anger point to what we and others love and care deeply about? What does anger look like when we allow ourselves to feel it fully and cleanly? **Full transcript can be found here: https://artofaccomplishment.com/2021/10/22/episode-31-the-wisdom-of-anger-part-i-emotion-series-3/ Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn…
Oct 15, 2021
Ant Taylor on Embracing Emotions
Brett interviews Ant Taylor, founder and CEO of Lyte, on a profound self-reflection that changed his life and business. Ant discovered that shifting from living largely in his head to operating from a more intuitive and embodied space allows him to tap into the wisdom of his emotions. We will learn more about how he now embraces the ebb and flow of emotional intensity, resulting in the uncovering of deeper truths. "This moment, when he called out the anxiety, I didn’t know it at the time. It just triggered a different kind of, I guess, leadership style that was a little bit more like I am going to jump into that pit over there, guys. I’m pretty sure it is filled with snakes. I’m pretty sure I’m going to get my ass handed to me. It’s going to be at least funny, possibly dangerous, but if I live, come with me." **Full transcript can be found here: https://artofaccomplishment.com/2021/10/15/episode-30-ant-taylor-on-embracing-emotions/ Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplis…
Oct 8, 2021
Embracing Intensity - Emotion Series #2
There are emotions inside all of us that can sometimes be difficult to fully feel — anger, sadness, fear and even joy often have an intensity that causes us to brace ourselves against them. What if instead of running away from a feeling, we leaned into it? How would it change our experience to turn towards the thing giving us discomfort, asking us to expand in some way? In today’s episode, we will explore how to embrace intensity in order to allow transformative change to flow into our lives. "The person’s willingness to embrace intensity will mark the amount of change they will feel in their life in the short term. It’s a great leading indicator." **Full transcript can be found here: https://artofaccomplishment.com/2021/10/08/episode-29-embracing-intensity-emotion-series-2/ Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Sep 24, 2021
Stages of Emotional Development - Emotion Series #1
Today's episode is the first of a new series on emotions. To kick things off, we’re going to explore the process of emotional development that we all go through as we start to work through each of the emotions that we’re going to discuss the next upcoming episodes. "Managing our emotions is maybe a short-term solution sometimes, but it is really not a good long term one. That feeling of our emotions really actually brings us the freedom and the joy we want." **Full transcript can be found here: https://artofaccomplishment.com/2021/09/24/episode-28-stages-of-emotional-development/ Follow us on Instagram at @artofaccomplishment to learn more about our guests and share your own experiences.
Sep 10, 2021
Joe and Brett jump into Brett’s background in extreme sports, business, and relationships to explore a key shift in mindset: from setting out to conquer our fear to welcoming it as a focusing and energizing force. "The relationships and connections I have now feel much more real and much more robust than they often used to be when I was holding and carrying this belief that I had to hide my fear from the relationship, or it would damage it somehow." Joe: Hi, everybody. This is Joe Hudson. Brett: This is Brett Kistler. Joe: Welcome to our podcast. Today we are going to do things a little bit differently. This is the beginning of a series we have put together, and the series is all about how self-discovery affects the rest of your life. It is particularly around interviewing CEOs who have had a moment of self-discovery that has changed their life and their business. Brett, what’s the self-discovery that you want to talk about? What’s the breakthrough that you feel has changed y…
Aug 27, 2021
Group Cohesion vs. Cult Dynamics
The essence of a cult dictates that you hand over your power to someone else, which is the antithesis of the VIEW mindset. Is there a way to retain autonomy and have individual needs met while also deeply contributing to the needs of a group? In this episode, Brett and Joe unpack the differences between cult dynamics and group cohesion. "I want to bring people to their own wisdom, and I don’t want to bring people to my wisdom, somebody else’s wisdom or a group wisdom." Brett: We were talking about the vow and cults and some of the people coming back into AoA from having done ESF and other kinds of work, and there is a tongue in cheek that sometimes people joke about. I am back in the cult. This is a cult. This is not a cult. A question for you that somebody asked that was tongue in cheek was what if you just stopped resisting that you are a cult leader. Joe: It is funny. As soon as you say this and I know it is being recorded, I become self-conscious, and I don’t even want to…
Aug 13, 2021
Seeing Through Family Dynamics
Many of our beliefs about the way the world works and our role in it are formed in our early years of life. As adults, the family dynamics that we had as children can show up at work, in our relationships and other areas. Family dynamics gives us a chance to identify and heal patterns that are no longer useful to us so that we can empower ourselves to consciously choose how we show up in our lives. "My brain isn’t in a place where I can trust my thoughts, so I am going to go get my brain in a place and my body in a place where I can trust my thoughts, where I am out of my trauma so that I can think clearly because if I am acting out of the trauma, I will recreate it over, over, over and over again." Brett: So wow, that was quite an opening Q&A. Joe: Yeah, Art of Accomplishment is on. Holy crap. Brett: People went there. Joe: Oh my gosh, unlike any start of anything I have ever been in. It was amazing how vulnerable it got and how quickly. It was really cool. Brett: I remember t…
Jul 30, 2021
It's All a Projection
In today’s episode, we will be taking a deeper look at projections. What exactly does that mean? The parts of ourselves that we cannot own — either good or bad — are what we project onto other people. The concept of projection is rooted in the idea that we create beliefs based on our past experiences. We carry these beliefs with us into the present, where they subconsciously shape our current reality. "People think somebody who really sees through projections is really smart because they come up with really cool, unique, innovative ideas, or they act in a way that is seemingly not normal but yet it works. It is not so much really that they are smart or not smart. It is that they don’t see the same level of limitation on everything that somebody who fully buys into the projections sees." Brett: Today we are going to talk about projections, so Joe, you have talked about projections a lot in our courses, this idea that from our past experience we create these beliefs that we car…
Jul 16, 2021
Who is the Voice in Your Head?
Most of us have a voice in our heads constantly narrating our experiences. Have you ever noticed what yours is like? How it talks to you? How would you feel is someone else spoke to you the way that this voice speaks to you? Would you speak to someone else this way? Today we are going to explore how the voice in our head influences what we say, do and feel. We will learn how we can develop a new relationship with it. "You have this deep, critical voice in your head. It is like you are living with a horrible, micromanaging boss all the time. We know what that's like if we are actually sitting next to one of those people and they are constantly barraging us, and yet we just think it is normal when it is coming from ourselves." Most of us have a voice in our heads constantly narrating ourselves [Whispers: Why did you say that? She hates me. Get it together. Get it together.] Have you ever noticed what yours is like? How it talks to you? How would you feel if someone else spoke to yo…
Jul 2, 2021
Allowing Yourself to Change (Joe Coaches Brett)
This week’s episode took an unexpected turn after co-host Brett Kistler had a difficult week, prompting an unplanned one-on-one session where Joe coaches Brett. In this session, we dive deeper into exploring how the relationship with self is reflected in the relationships with the people around us. "My mind is flitting around in a million directions, going down rabbit holes, and my body is like hey, we have something important to do." "Yeah, that's beautiful. That's always the way it works, right? The relationship with the self is reflected in the relationship with the people around us." Brett: Okay, so this is going to be a really interesting episode. We started the call intending to dive into an episode on attentional black holes or perhaps on engineering our own heartbreak. But I have been having a rough week, and we ended up diving into what turned out to be a session with Joe coaching me. Here it is, raw and unfiltered. I hope you like it. So throughout my life, I have this…
Jun 18, 2021
Care vs. Caretaking
What is wrong with making people feel better? When some of us think of codependency, we think of alcoholism or addiction but it can affect our lives in subtle ways both personally and professionally. Today we are going to talk about the difference between care and caretaking. "If it ever crosses your mind that the person can't handle what you are going to say to them, what you want to say to them, if you ever think they are too weak or incapable, those absolutely are key indicators that you are in it, that you are in the caretaking side of things." What is wrong with making people feel better? When a lot of us think of codependency, we think of alcoholism or we think of addiction, a lot of the extreme examples, but co-dependency is something we really do a lot in our daily lives, and this happens in very subtle ways in relationships, personally and in business. Today we are going to talk about the difference between care and caretaking. Joe, today, I want to talk about something we…
Jun 4, 2021
The Business Behind VIEW
People often think of business as something that’s separate from life. They may say things like, “It’s just business.” In today’s episode, we explore the business side of VIEW and our integrative approach to business that serves as an extension of the values, mindset and strategies that we use in our everyday lives. "To me, self-awareness is life. There is no difference. People think about business as something that's separate from life. I do that in business, or it's just business. To me, business is far more of an art form, and how you use it is far more important." If you've been listening for a while, you have heard Joe and I refer to the workshops and online courses that this podcast comes from. What's the deal with all of this? Why do we want you to join our mailing list? What's our intention? Are we trying to suck you into something? What's this going to cost you? Today I would like to bring some transparency into what exactly is going on with all this VIEW business…
May 21, 2021
Father Figures and Authority (Coaching Session)
Today's episode involves a coaching session between Joe and a woman in our community who is experiencing tension around authority figures. The conversation starts out with workplace challenges and very quickly ties into her relationship with her father, ultimately touching on how she can give and receive love. While listening to this conversation, we can observe Joe’s state of mind and how he holds the VIEW principles. These are the kinds of conversations that Joe has with participants and that participants learn to have with each other in the Art of Accomplishment course. "Joe, I either want to fight myself or I just want to roll over and stay safe. I either want to fight against myself or I don't want to listen." Today we are going to share a coaching session between Joe and a woman in our community who is experiencing tension around authority figures. The conversation starts off with workplace challenges and very quickly ties in to her relationship with her father, ultimately to…
May 7, 2021
Money: Part II
In the second episode of this two-part series on money, we are going to address another common misconception that people have, which is that money is bad and the root of all evil. What if we did not have to see money as a game or a means to an end? What if we understood that we could transform our relationship to it by simply recognizing that money is not personal? By seeing ourselves as human beyond the money, money can start flowing very differently into our lives. "All that's required is to not have the money be personal, so you don't actually have to see it as a game. You don't actually have to see it as a means to an end. All that's really required is the money isn't personal. You just have to see yourself as human beyond the money, and then money has a way of flowing very differently in people's lives." Brett: Welcome back, everybody, to our topic on money. Now we are going to get the second half of this discussion on the belief that money is bad. Joe, what makes it that people…
Apr 23, 2021
Money: Part I
Money can be a very tricky, emotional subject. Many of us have all kinds of projections and misconceptions around it. In this episode of a two-part series, we are going to talk about a common misconception that people have, which is that money is our savior and if we just had more of it, it would solve all of our problems. What if we learned how to effectively use money and accept its constraints in a way that would allow us to be even more creative than we would be without it? "As long as money is here, you can choose to think it is good and I want it, or you can choose to think it is bad and I am going to want it secretly but actually I'm going to try to avoid it or you can say wow, this is the way the system works. How do I use it and accept the constraints of it in a way that allow me to be even more creative than I would be without it?" Today, we are going to talk about money. Now, money is a really sticky subject. It's very emotional for a lot of people, and people have all kin…
Apr 9, 2021
Love over Defense — AoA Series #9
We are taught how to defend ourselves from a very young age. But few of us are taught the pragmatic power of love. We build a series of walls we can put up whenever someone makes us uncomfortable. What if those very walls create a drag-on life that slows down our dreams? What if love is an easy-to-use tool that turns all that friction into forward momentum? "Love can't really exist without empowerment. You can be fond of. You can be scared of losing, but to actually love in a way that is beyond you, that is a deep welcoming, the only way you can deeply welcome, is to feel deeply empowered to not be worried of the result." We are taught how to defend ourselves from a very young age, but few of us are taught the pragmatic power of love. We build a series of walls we can put up whenever someone makes us uncomfortable. What if those very walls create a drag on life that slows down our dreams? What if love is an easy-to-use tool that turns all that friction into forward momentum? Today's…
Mar 26, 2021
Empower over Power — AoA Series #8
The accumulation of power seems like a good idea at first. Then we see how deeply insecure some billionaires and leaders of countries can be. What if no amount of power could ever make you feel safe? What if it was just another thing that could be taken away from you? What if being empowered is the key to the only security that truly sets you free? "Power is control over other people and empowered means that you are not looking for control of others. You are just being you despite the consequences." The accumulation of power seems like a good idea at first. Then we see how deeply insecure some billionaires and leaders of countries can be. What if no amount of power could ever make you feel safe? What if it was just another thing that could be taken away from you? What if being empowered is the key to the only security that truly sets you free? Brett: Joe, what makes this distinction so important? Joe: The empowered overpower distinction. I think there's a deep confusion in us as a…
Mar 19, 2021
Authenticity over Improvement — AoA Series #7
When we consider how we want life to be in the future we often create a list of things that we have to improve about ourselves. Yet we rarely consider that we could succeed in “improving” every aspect of our lives, and by doing so, completely lose touch with who we are and what we want. What if learning who we are creates a future far better than what we think we want? What if it creates a future better than we could imagine? "I will watch people and if they are just following their intuition, they will just pick the next thing. This is what we do, when we are just following our nature. My nature, my authenticity improved me in ways I didn't even know were happening." When we consider how we want life to be in the future, we often create a list of things that we have to improve about ourselves. Yet, we rarely consider that we can succeed in improving every aspect of our lives and by doing so, completely lose touch with who we are and what we want. What if learning who we are crea…
Mar 15, 2021
Want over Should — AoA Series #6
If you look at all the bad habits that you’ve been trying to stop for a decade they all have one thing in common: They are all things you’re telling yourself you SHOULD stop doing. What if thinking you “should” is what keeps you stuck? And what if getting in touch with your wants, in a deep way, is the quickest way to get you unstuck? "The want is that very simple impulse that is moving us, that moves us to have a closer relationship with our loved ones. It is a constant pull that leads us all the way down the developmental line. If we allow it, it will take us all the way to freedom." If you look at all of the bad habits you have been trying to stop for a decade, you will find they all have one thing in common. They are all things you are telling yourself you should stop doing. The same is likely true for the things you tell yourself you should be doing more of, finishing a project, going to the gym, calling your mom. What if thinking you should is what keeps you stuck? Wha…
Mar 5, 2021
Feel over Figure — AoA Series #5
We often try to figure out solutions to our problems intellectually. But modern neuroscience tells us that, if you removed the emotional centers of your brain, you would be unable to make even the simplest decision regardless of how much intellect you had. What if there were emotional practices you could do to clarify every decision? What if emotions were the key to finding whole new kinds of solutions? "The reason that somebody gets angry at somebody else is because they haven't gotten angry by themselves. It takes a while to build that kind of anger, so go release your anger and then talk to the person. Go get really, really scared and then talk to your boss about the raise that you want. You have the emotional experience and then go and take the action." Brett: Joe, many of us are taught to manage our feelings and to be logical, especially when it comes to important or complex matters. What makes feelings so important? Joe: That is a great question. I think it was a 2012 book cal…
Feb 13, 2021
Enjoy over Manage — AoA Series #4
The problem with getting good at managing your life is that you end up with a life that has to be managed. What would happen if you found out that focusing on enjoying your life could make you more productive and happier than managing your life? We know most of the greats enjoyed what they did. What if enjoyment is an essential part of what makes us great? "Imagine that you are on a boat and you are going down a river. Management is when you are fighting against the river, but when you are in that effortless flow of the river, there's an enjoyment to it. What you have to do is, you have to be listening to that river deeply. You have to be listening to that impulse." We're told all of our lives that if we want results, we have to manage ourselves and the world around us in order to get what we want. What if that isn't true? What if intention and determination are critical, but managing life gets in the way? What if the way to get the life we want is to focus on enjoying our life, not…
Feb 13, 2021
Connection over Perfection — AoA Series #3
We are taught from a very young age that doing things perfectly will get us where we want to go in life. But what if doing things in connection is far more effective? What if being in connection with your customers gets better results than trying to make a perfect product? Or being in connection with your spouse makes a better marriage than trying to make it perfect? "If you close your ideas and you think of the things that you feel are most perfect in the world, those are also things that are deeply connected. We think of a flower. We think of a scene. We think of God. We think of an amazing product. What the human population sees as perfection, they are all deep expressions of connection." What is perfectionism? If having clear goals can be so helpful in life, how could it be that the simple act of measuring ourselves up to them so often holds us back? Today we are going to explore why our quest for perfection never seems to satisfy us and often only slows or impedes productivity,…
Feb 13, 2021
Embarking on the Journey — AoA Series #2
When we are ready to embark on the journey of self-transformation we want to make the most of our time in an effective and progressive way. For this, as with all journeys, it helps to have a compass and a clear map. A clear map tells us four things about the journey: the necessary conditions, the best approach, what to expect along the way, and impediments where we might get lost. The compass that keeps us on track—our constant reference along the path—is enjoyment. "There is no way of getting it right. There is no complete. There is no finish line, no done, there is no “I’m going to get it.” There is just “What’s the next experiment?” “What’s the next adventure?” “What can I learn from what just happened?” There is just play." Brett: Today we're going to talk about everything you need to know about embarking on a personal transformative journey, conditions for transformation, what happens on the journey, what we can get excited about and what will get on o…
Feb 13, 2021
The Art of Accomplishment — AoA Series #1
The premise of The Art of Accomplishment is simple: it is our heart’s capacity that determines our success and happiness in life. Emotional intelligence is the bottleneck to the change we want to see in ourselves and the world. Tapping into our heart’s potential opens up the possibility of fulfilling our greatest ambitions without sacrificing our sense of joy and authenticity. We are taught early on that if we accomplish enough stuff we will have the life of our dreams, only to find it is a life that fails to make us happy and fulfill our hopes. In this 9-part series, you will discover that how you get things done is what makes your life far more fulfilling. Not only because you will enjoy the process of an authentic life but because enjoyment and self-awareness are critical tools in making what you accomplish more meaningful and effortless. The Art of Accomplishment podcast series accompanies the online course led by Joe Hudson. More more info, visit artofaccomplishment.com. "…
Jan 20, 2021
Loving our Resistance
In self-discovery practices, there’s this idea that the path to deeper freedom is to go through our resistance. This often sets us up with an adversarial relationship to our resistance, as if all it does is needlessly hold us back. In this episode, we discuss resistance as we might reconnect with an old friend -- exploring how it shows up in all its forms, the path to developing a healthy relationship with resistance, and all the fun and foibles we can expect along the way. "My kind of rule of thumb is go for the joy. If I don't want the resistance to change, how can I meet it most joyfully?" Brett: Today, we are leaning into resistance, how it shows up and all its forms, the path to developing a healthy relationship with resistance, and all of the fun and foibles we can expect along the way. In self-discovery practices, there´s this idea that the path to deeper freedom is to go through our resistance. This often sets us up with an adversarial relationship to our resistance, as if…
Dec 11, 2020
Integrating a Transformative Experience
If you do much Art of Accomplishment work, chances are good that you will have a transformational experience. When you return to your life after a profound breakthrough, you may experience feelings of confusion, being lost, or even being unmoored from everything that once grounded you. That’s why integration is so important when doing this work. "As you're moving forward, it isn't a straight line, so what you think to be moving backwards might just be the way humans learn. Kids go from walking to crawling. To be easy on yourself about your learning process and be appreciative of those moments that you are learning, this helps integration out more than anything else." Brett: If you do much of Joe's work, chances are good that you will have a transformational experience. You may suddenly recognize some pattern you have played out over and over again in your life and find the ability to step out of it. These types of experiences have changed lives, but we know the moment of epiphany i…
Nov 10, 2020
Vulnerability — VIEW Series #5
Many of us have learned to associate vulnerability with weakness. We fear that being deeply vulnerable will open the door to being dominated or taken advantage of by others. What’s the difference between vulnerability and timidness, and how can unprotected vulnerability be a sign of strength and courage? Vulnerability is the V in VIEW; and the topic of today’s episode. "In every moment, you can feel where your fear and your truth are together. And that's the vulnerable action." Welcome to the Art of Accomplishment, where we explore how deepening connection with ourselves and others leads to creating the life we want with enjoyment and ease. My name is Brett Kistler. I am an adventurer, entrepreneur and a self exploration enthusiast. I am here with my co-host, Joe Hudson. Joe is a business coach who has spent decades working with some of the world's top executives and teams developing a unique model of human patterns that underpin how we operate with ourselves, each other and th…
Nov 6, 2020
Empathy — VIEW Series #4
How does empathy affect our decision making? We often think we are making decisions based on intellect but in reality we make many, if not all, decisions based on trying to feel or trying not to feel certain emotions. If you look forward to all of your emotions what will that do to your decision making? "When you have empathy with someone, they are more likely to be open because they feel that you are with them, and you can't do anything to show it to them. You are just empathetic, and it just occurs." Welcome to the Art of Accomplishment, where we explore how deepening connection with ourselves and others leads to creating the life we want with enjoyment and ease. My name is Brett Kistler. I am an adventurer, entrepreneur and a self exploration enthusiast. I am here with my co-host, Joe Hudson. Joe is a business coach who has spent decades working with some of the world´s top executives and teams developing a unique model of human patterns that underpin how we operate with ourselv…
Nov 5, 2020
Impartiality — VIEW Series #3
In today’s society, we have an archetype of the successful leader as a commander; someone who knows what they want and bends the world to their will in order to get it. But so many of us end up elbowing our way into loneliness or controlling our lives into a place we later realize we don’t want to be. How can we have clear goals and desires while staying in flow with reality? What if accepting the outcomes we’re avoiding makes our desired outcomes more likely? On today’s episode, we’ll be discussing Impartiality -- the I in VIEW. "Recognizing something that's right and going with it rather than trying to get it to be your version of right is the practice of impartiality in business, and it is incredibly, incredibly useful." Welcome to the Art of Accomplishment, where we explore how deepening connection with ourselves and others leads to creating the life we want with enjoyment and ease. My name is Brett Kistler. I am an adventurer, entrepreneur and a self exploration ent…
Nov 4, 2020
Wonder — VIEW Series #2
Being in wonder helps you understand the value of the right question and If you’re in wonder, it’s a constant exploration. Questioning the assumptions that are in your mind is one of the quickest ways to get to wonder, where curiosity and awe are being experienced together. "It's really a point of view of looking at the world. Follow your wonder. It´s a trail. Just follow it in the conversation about the other person, about yourself. In the conversation, just follow it." Welcome to the Art of Accomplishment, where we explore how deepening connection with ourselves and others leads to creating the life we want with enjoyment and ease. My name is Brett Kistler. I am an adventurer, entrepreneur and a self exploration enthusiast. I am here with my co-host, Joe Hudson. Joe is a business coach who has spent decades working with some of the world´s top executives and teams developing a unique model of human patterns that underpin how we operate with ourselves, each other and the worl…
Oct 26, 2020
Introduction to VIEW — VIEW Series #1
VIEW is a state of mind that, through a series of experiments and exercises, you can learn to drop into with ease. When we approach conversations from VIEW we are able to understand others and ourselves in any situation and in a way where even conflict can bring joy and connection. "Think about this way. If you have a conversation with a person and at the end of that conversation, they feel like they understand themselves and their business better, they want to continue to have conversations with you." Welcome to the Art of Accomplishment, where we explore how deepening connection with ourselves and others leads to creating the life we want with enjoyment and ease. My name is Brett Kistler. I am an adventurer, entrepreneur and a self exploration enthusiast. I am here with my co-host, Joe Hudson. Joe is a business coach who has spent decades working with some of the world's top executives and teams developing a unique model of human patterns that underpin how we operate with ourselve…