A Gutsy Girl
A Gutsy Girl
May 18, 2021
The Perfect Loaf {Podcast Episode 10 with Vanessa Kimbell}
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I'm calling the episode, "The Perfect Loaf" because today is all about Sourdough bread and how + why it can be so nourishing for the gut.

While chatting with Vanessa, I went to a different place. Her storytelling capabilities are impeccable.


Resources Mentioned

  1. The Sourdough School: The Ground-Breaking Guide to Making Gut-Friendly Bread (the book you must have!)
  2. Butyrate and Short-Chain Fatty Acids
  3. 7 Core Principles
  4. Saccharide series
  5. 10-Minute Sourdough: Breadmaking for Real Life (pre-order!)
  6. Sourdough School
  7. Diversity Sourdough Recipes
  8. The Sourdough School: Sweet Baking: Nourishing the Gut & The Mind


Sourdough Club

The Sourdough Club is Vanessa's online (paid membership) learning platform. But it's far more than just an online sourdough course.

Learn as part of an active community - with continuous support and inspiration.

The Sourdough Club includes over 70 video tutorials, step-by-step core methods, over 40 recipes plus new recipes each month, articles and tips covering everything there is to know about sourdough, and a student forum to chat with Vanessa and other members, helping you to continue your practice.

Join the club HERE.

Don’t Miss These Thoughts

  1. Vanessa's story
  2. Training in Southwest France to become a baker
  3. What happened to her after a course of antibiotics once she returned to the UK from France.
  4. What was the difference between the bread she ate in France and the bread she ate in England?
  5. Dr. Tim Spector + Zoe
  6. How bread nourishes
  7. Breaking bread down, as Vanessa tells it to children
  8. Vanessa's 7 Core Principles (....because Sourdough and fermentation is not enough)
  9. Chorleywood Baking Process
  10. "Go back and re-think bread." - Vanessa
  11. Mr. Potato Head analogy (ears, nose, and tummy)


More from A Gutsy Girl

1. Welcome to A Gutsy Girl Podcast
2. Hang out on Instagram
3. BFF’s on YouTube
4. Free resource: The Master Gutsy Spreadsheet
5. Rated-G Email Club

Btw – don’t forget to grab a copy of your 90-day healing journey journal (there is also a PDF e-version you can download today HERE).


Gluten Free Sourdough Bread

When preparing for this show and my interview with Vanessa, I asked the Instagram darlings, "What do you want to know?"

One of the most common responses was something along the lines of,

How can I make gluten free Sourdough bread?

While I want to have a huge answer for you today around this, the truth is that I don't.

That's because, after speaking with Vanessa, and gaining all the Sourdough insight, I'm not sure it's necessary for most.

If you have Celiac, that's very different. I will continue to research for you.

However, if you do not have Celiac, the gluten contained within the Sourdough you'll make might not even matter.

If you want to read all about this, click HERE for massive research from Vanessa and her team.

Is Sourdough Bread Vegan?

Vanessa talks about cultured cinnamon butter to accompany the bread. If you choose this (which sounds incredible, btw), your Sourdough bread is not Vegan.

However, here are the only 3 ingredients in my Sourdough recipe (and most Sourdough recipes):

  1. water
  2. flour
  3. salt


Eggs, which is usually why people wonder if Sourdough bread is Vegan or not, are not part of the ingredients.

Bread that uses eggs is typically only found in Paleo and/or other alternative breads.

The Sourdough Starter

As I mention in the podcast, I was gifted my initial Sourdough starter from my brother's fiance's family.

My goal is still to make my own and share with you the process.

If you want to get started on your own Sourdough starter today, though, you can.

Vanessa breaks the simplest Sourdough bread starter down HERE.

How to Feed Sourdough Starter

My process for feeding the starter each week breaks down exactly like this:


  1. First thing each Tuesday morning, I remove 1 cup of the Sourdough starter that keeps in my fridge.
  2. I add to it: 1 cup of water and 1 cup of the King Arthur Organic Bread Flour.
  3. This triple mixture gets fully stirred (with a wooden spoon in a glass bowl). Then, I seal it with wrap, and place two cloths over it.
  4. I set this mixture on the counter for 6-ish hours.
  5. After the time is up, I see bubbles on top of my mixture so I remove the covers.
  6. Then, I place 3/4 of the mixture into another glass bowl.
  7. The rest of the starter goes back into my original starter jar. It returns to the fridge until next week.
  8. In the bowl with the 3/4 cup mixture, I add to it 6 cups of organic flour (the flour I use here changes from time-to-time; regular, organic flour, organic whole wheat flour, etc.). Then, I add in 3 cups of room temperature water.
  9. I mix it all together with a wooden spoon. Note: this is an arm workout of sorts, no judging.
  10. Then, I cover the mixture again (with the two cloths as well). I place the entire bowl in the fridge until sometime Saturday - Monday when it's time to bake (usually happens on Sundays).


Pestle and Mortar

Do you have a Pestle and Mortar? I got mine in Mexico many a moon ago, but there are some lovely ones you can grab HERE.

Anyways, in the episode, Vanessa talks about using one in order to quickly increase your bread's diversity score.

Here are 5+ natural ways Vanessa provides for increasing your bread's diversity score.

  1. rye
  2. coffee
  3. caraway seeds
  4. cocoa
  5. coriander seeds


You would take these ingredients, whole, and smash them using your Pestle and Mortar.

Bonus add: cultured cinnamon butter

Are you salivating yet?!


Wrap Up

Time to wrap this up. As always, a huge goal for this show is to connect with even more people. Feel free to send an email to our team at podcast@agutsygirl.com. We want to hear questions, comments, show ideas, etc.

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