Architect Le Corbusier believed that a uniform standard for the height of human beings would improve the appearance and function of architecture. But when all humans are not the exact same shape and size, whose scale should we be working to?

In this episode of our podcast, Sam Hughes talks to Hanna Harris, Helsinki's Chief Design Officer, and Juha-Matti Kuusinen, Head of Flow Intelligence at KONE, about what it means to design better connected, more inclusive cities that work for everyone.

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