The Unfair Fight
The Unfair Fight
Mar 23, 2022
002: The Impact of Cyber on Diplomacy with Ambassador Butler
Play • 1 hr 45 min
This week, I welcome Ambassador Butler, a 40-year career civil servant with the Department of State. Ambassador Butler is a long-time career ambassador and deputy commander of EUCOM. We talk about the unfortunate events we’ve seen with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the intersection of national security, geopolitics, and cyber activities, and the kinds of roles that cyber can play in any sort of conflict.   Ambassador Butler shares a few learning experiences from his long and storied career including serving Iraq, Bulgaria, and touring all over Africa, to dealing with the FBI’s most wanted, the White House, and working with the information warfare and Public Affairs Office of U.S. Forces. We finish by talking about how to get pragmatic when preparing for cyber attacks, and why we need to focus more on internet service providers in cybersecurity.


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