Nick Jones is a narrative designer and transmedia storyteller, author of the new book “The Player and the Pentacle: Folkloric Motifs for Narrative Design”.
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(00:00) - Introduction
(01:10) - Recent gaming: Horizon Forbidden West, Elden Ring, Bloodborne. From Software
(12:42) - Formative experiences: PS1, PaRappa the Rapper, Crash Bandicoot, Hercules, Tomb Raider
(14:18) - Working in the gaming industry
(15:11) - Evangelical/pentecostal christian upbringing. Sexual identity and leaving the church
(19:39) - Church history, fantasy cultures, folklore
(22:24) - Terry Pratchett’s Discworld, and living as an outsider
(27:47) - The Player and the Pentacle
(31:52) - The hero's journey vs Jeff Gomez’s collective journey. Tribalism no longer serves the greater group
(40:44) - Being the hero of your story - creative responsibility and chasing transcendence
(46.44) - Predatory game mechanics. The magic circle of narrative desig
(51:44) - Finishing up
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Producer for this episode is Kearin Armstrong, production assistant is Prea Millar.