As podcasters, we sometimes joke about people trying to game the system - the "podcast promoter" constantly messaging on LinkedIn, the host buying guest spots on other shows, and more. But the fact is, it's no laughing matter.
Not because people are gaming the system. But because when things go wrong, it could be our clients who take the hit. Their shows could be removed from directories. Their reputations could be tarnished or ruined. They might just want to give up.
We don't want that.
We want our clients to succeed. We want to see their shows grow organically, and it can be done. But if they don't know what to look out for, they could fall victim to someone else's black hat without even knowing it.
Thankfully, Leslie Martin joined us to share his experiences with the dark side of marketing so that we can know EXACTLY how some of these scams work.
Leslie shared some incredible knowledge and insight with us and you won't want to miss this.
Leslie Martin is a podcast engineer at GreatLand Media and a graduate of Podcast Engineering School. He lives in Anchorage, Alaska and has long had an interest in audio, ranging from old-time radio style audio theater programs, to audiobooks, to music.
Leslie was also the editor of episode 24, with Chris Trew.
This episode was edited by Bryan Entzminger of Top Tier Audio. He was also on this show, so if he doesn't sound smart, it's his own fault. And he wrote this, so there...
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If you found this valuable and want some ideas for how to help your clients market effectively without having to go to some black hat promoter, check out some of our previous episodes: