Episode 2: Follow the Money
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In Episode 2 of Finance Against Slavery and Trafficking: The Podcast, we’re following the money. We’re learning how the profits from forced labour and modern slavery find their way into the financial system, and what happens to them. We’ll also hear from financial sector regulators and banks about how they’re learning to find the footprints of this hidden crime.

This podcast is hosted by James Cockayne, Head of Secretariat for the Liechtenstein Initiative for Finance Against Slavery and Trafficking (FAST). Guests in this episode include Liz Barrick, Deputy Director of the Transaction Record Analysis Center (TRAC); Barry Koch, former legal counsel at JP Morgan Chase’s global anti-money laundering compliance programme and member of the FAST Initiative Steering Group; Joseph Mari, Director of External Partnerships in the Global Risk Management Division of Scotiabank; and Tom Keatinge, Director of the Centre for Financial Crime and Security Studies at the Royal United Services Institute.

This week’s guests focus on initiatives aimed at using financial data to identify human trafficking and modern slavery. Liz Barrick discusses an innovative partnership between Western Union, law enforcement and other money service businesses to pool data to follow illicit financial flows, Barry Koch describes JP Morgan Chase’s groundbreaking transaction analysis programme used to identify potential human trafficking cases, while Joseph Mari describes a new compendium of resources and indicators for financial investigations. Finally, Tom Keatinge sounds a sceptical note about the challenges for banks in finding labour trafficking in their transactions data.

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