Or have neither. 
First of all, we fixed the sound issue - we're at least 99% sure we did. Let us know. 
Second - we're talking religion. We both grew up in religious homes but grew into atheists. We discuss the impact of a religious-raising on both of us and how it impacted our self-esteem and contributed to our desire or lack of desire to parent. Eric also speaks at length about the Mormon church, as he recently got triggered by hearing many horror stories about BYU's Honor Code Office. If you're curious about an inside experience of the Mormon church, this episode is for you. 

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