58. Communion with Reality, with Esther Lightcap Meek, author of A Little Manual for Knowing
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In this episode, Esther Lightcap Meek and I talk about love as the starting point for truly knowing reality, what it means to experience communion with the real—and why this matters for the on-the-ground work that you and I are doing as leaders of God’s people.



  • Esther Lightcap Meek is Professor of Philosophy at Geneva College and author of A Little Manual for Knowing.
  • In chapter one of A Little Manual for Knowing, Esther states that “reality is a gift, and love is at the core of all things.  It is not impersonal; rather, it is person-like.”
  • The pilgrimage of knowing begins with love, not with information.
  • Active listening invites the real.  Not mere passive collecting of information, but actively inviting reality to self-disclose.
  • Because we’ve reduced knowledge in the modern West to little bits of information, we can’t see what is really there.
  • We need to go into our communities in humility looking for what God is already at work doing there.
  • Creation is in its essence the love of God.  It is the expression of God’s love.
  • When we truly begin to know reality, we enter into communion with that which is known.




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