In this episode I’m in conversation with Hugo Jenkins, owner of The 25th Company, a user experience and product design consultancy from Melbourne Australia.
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In this episode I’m in conversation with Hugo Jenkins, owner of The 25th Company, a user experience and product design consultancy from Melbourne Australia

Hugo and his wife also run Things For Kids,
A childrens' activity directory born from their own experiences of becoming parents and the struggles with wellbeing and the all important work-life balance.

We discuss overcoming the fears of leaving tradition employed life and going out on your own as a contractor or starting your own business, the connections between musicians, designers and the by-gone era of myspace skinning.