Freedom Means...
Freedom Means...
Nov 1, 2021
"You're White" "No, I'm Not!" Episode Four
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In this episode we explore the idea that white means a color and a (made up) group of people. We role play a reflection after a child is called white and she responds that she doesn't look the color white. Our conversation begins by sharing a historical context for the creation of race--land owning Europeans making a group to be legally empowered to exploit and harm other groups. We then move into talking about the messages that get taught to white people and how those messages have continued to uphold structural racism. Grace and Emma end by sharing more historical context about the history of race being a response to multi-racial worker rebellions. The conversations in this episode build on the previous episodes and attempt to talk about systems of racial and class exploitation and resistance. 

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