Hearth & Heather
Kathy & Kateri
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A quarterly conversation about how we interact with place through art and nature. Hosts: Kateri Morton and Kathy Zadrozny.
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Apr 6, 2023
Ep 9: It’s Kind of Like Dirty Dancing
We’re still very much in conversation with time this spring. On this episode of Hearth & Heather, we’re looking at time through the lens of our hobbies. We talk about the living nature of the spoken word, and the way that boating on a river can shift a small slice of landscape into a big, slow, and contemplative world. Kathy shares what she’s been experiencing recently in her experiments with art; Kateri gives an update on her #AnnWoodStitchBook 100 Day sewing project. And we talk about the hobbies that we share, and how feeding your joy can spread joy to other people.
Mentioned in this episode:
* Underland: A Deep Time Journey and Landmarks, both by Robert Macfarlane
* The People of the Sea by David Thomson
* Poetry readings by Anis Mojgani, the current Poet Laureate of Oregon
* Normal Gossip podcast
* @farmandfolk on Instagram
* Negative Painting with watercolor tutorial from Harinder Sahota
* Kateri’s birding binoculars: Vortex 8x42 Diamondback HD Binoculars
* Kathy’s birding camera and telephoto lens: Canon EOS Rebel SL3 DSLR + Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Lens
* The Narrowboat Summer by Anne Youngson
* @folk_hattie on Instagram
* Saving Time: Discovering a Life Beyond the Clock by Jenny Odell
* Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer
* Orwell’s Roses by Rebecca Solnit
* Getting to Center by Marlee Grace
* Murder She Drank and the Murder Buddies Book Club
* Murder in G Major by Alexia Gordon
* The Book of Cold Cases by Simone St James
* “The Watering” by Sameen Affaf
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Mar 1, 2023
Hearthside: Vasilisa the Brave
Small moments of fables, stories, and poems with Kathy and Kateri, sprinkled among our quarterly podcast episodes. In this mini-episode, Kathy tells her variation of the folk tale of Baba Yaga and Vasilisa, mainly based on how her grandmother told it to her, with a few dashes of the feminist re-tellings she read as an adult.
This story does not tell a neat tale of bending all things to our will just by trying hard enough. It is more a tale of trusting yourself and knowing that some seemingly impossible tasks may just need faith and thought around them. With this trust, the unknown does not have to be walked into with fear; it can become an ally. Approach with a willingness to embrace mystery.
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Jan 30, 2023
Ep 8: Weirdly, We Did Not Mention Doctor Who
As we’re in the year-long month of January, it seems like the perfect opportunity to dig into the subjective nature of time. We talk about how time has slowed for both of us recently, and we reflect on some of the ways we’re experiencing that and what it means for us. We also explore creative projects we’ve encountered about how to mark time. There’s also some casual chat about perfectionism and how we’re letting arbitrary expectations slip away from us, so look out for that. And Kathy has some really, really good tips on kid stuff that is super fun for the self-parenting grownup.
Mentioned in episode:
* Ezra Klein Show,“ Time is Way Weirder Than You Think ”
* Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
* Cyanotypes and phenology wheels
* 6 of Pentacles/Diamonds
* Sleep Baseball podcast
* “How black pepper sedates marijuana paranoia,” Chicago Tribune
* Sophie Wood Brinker (heron bumper sticker)
* adrienne maree brown’s Instagram
* Bella Luna Toys
* Ann Wood 100 day stitch project
* Fair Folk podcast
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Dec 16, 2022
Hearthside: Winter Solstice Poems
Small moments of fables, stories, and poems with Kathy and Kateri, sprinkled among our quarterly podcast episodes. In this mini-episode, Kateri reads two poems for Winter Solstice: "Burning the Old Year" by Naomi Shihab Nye and "To Know the Dark" by Wendell Berry.
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Oct 17, 2022
Ep 7: Urgency is a Myth
Our favorite season is beckoning, and we’re talking about the slow-down of the year. As we get excited about tea, sweaters, golden light, and liminal spaces, we also dig into the ways that social media can create a false sense of urgency, preventing us from integrating our experiences in deeper ways. Of course, no episode of Hearth & Heather is complete without a lot of laughing, so we also talk about our squash preferences, and a book that was so good we got mad.
*Bonus Download*: Along with this episode, we’re posting a PDF of a Winter Solstice Spell Jar ritual that we mentioned in Episode 5.
Mentioned in episode:
* The Art of Simple Food by Alice Waters
* How to Cook Everything by Mark Bittman
* Acorn Squash Lasagna by Martha Stewart
* How to do Nothing by Jenny Odell
* Lalah Delia and sacred experiences
* “on being off social media,” Emily McDowell’s newsletter
* “Take a step back: Notes from a social media break,” Lisa Olivera’s newsletter
* We Were Made for These Times by Kaira Jewel Lingo
* Sacred Harp Singing
* Cocaine and Rhinestones podcast
* Mirrors in the Earth by Asia Suler
* Patton Oswalt, The Birthday Clown From Hell
* Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport
* How a photo and video-sharing social networking service gave me my best friends, true love, a beautiful career, and made me want to die by Marlee Grace
* Digital Wellbeing app for Android
* A Deadly Education by Naomi Novik
* Winter Solstice candle ritual (PDF), by Shanalee Hampton
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Jul 27, 2022
Ep 6: The Curious Case of Cozy Murders
It turns out, murder plays a very large role in our relaxing times. Not committing it, of course; we would never…We compare favorite series, scoff at silly titles, and ponder the origins of the genre known as “cozy.” We take a breath to acknowledge the heavy forces that are threatening us and demanding our attention at this moment in time, and we talk about some ways that we rest and refresh our energies. Sweetly soothed by mayhem, we also find our way into talking about some more purposeful reading and the habits that sustain our hearts.
Mentioned in episode:
* “It’s Time to Stop Living the American Scam” by Tim Kreider
* The Art of Simple Food by Alice Waters
* Tender by Nigel Slater
* Wartime and ration cooking
* The Secret, Book and Scone Society series by Ellery Adams
* The Maine Clambake Mysteries by Barbara Ross
* Trauma Stewardship by Laura Van Dernoot Lipsky
* How We Show Up by Mia Birdsong
* Original Plum Torte recipe from NYTimes Cooking
* WindowSwap
* Walking in the Rain, Tokyo on YouTube
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May 2, 2022
Ep 5: Burying the Canoe
Virgos navigating somatics! Habit-soothed people realizing none of our practices feel authentic right now. We’re in exploration mode, our feelings are itchy, and we’re talking about tarot fatigue, changing spiritual practices, honoring our bodies when we have low energy, letting go, trauma-sensitive yoga, breathwork, and polyvagal theory. Shoutouts to our therapists and to anchoring our bodies in bright, visceral joys. We also share an oracle card reading for the energy to bring into this Spring [cleaning] season.
Mentioned in episode:
* Tarot folks we like: Zeta Zuri, Sarah Vrba, and Corina Dross
* WTF is Tarot? by Bakara Wintner
* Decks used: Brady Tarot and Urban Crow Oracle
* Anchored: How to Befriend Your Nervous System Using Polyvagal Theory by Deb Dana
* The Power of Breathwork by Jennifer Patterson
* Marshmallow root infusion
* Rise Up Remedies Organic Herb Farm
* Diana Rose’s tarot insights
* Later this year, we’ll be posting a downloadable description of the solstice candle practice that Kateri describes in this episode. This practice was created by Shanalee Hampton.
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Jan 18, 2022
Ep 4: Wind in the Willows
We talk about our adoration of Mole and Rat’s friendship in Kenneth Grahame’s classic, The Wind in the Willows, and why Toad can just eat a bag of *****. We also lust after Mr. Badger’s cellars and general domestic situation, dream about fictional food, and revel in how this book is a love letter to bioregion.
Mentioned in episode:
* The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame
* Chris Dunn’s illustrations for Wind in the Willows
* Vesper Flights by Helen Macdonald
* Sarah Andersen comics
* Evergreen Chase (part of the Shady Hollow series) by Juneau Black
* Fir needle shortbread
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Oct 20, 2021
Ep 3: It’s Death Season, and We’re Leaning In
It’s death season, we’re leaning in! Don’t worry, there’s still swearing. We start out with goddesses, take a long walk through our altar habits, and their connections to the dark moon. We discuss the intersectional practices of deathwork and herbalism, dig into grief and where it lives in our bodies, talk about our favorite ritual oils, and using oracle decks for clarification. Finding meaning is at the heart of this episode: where do we look for it? How can we uphold it for each other, and make more room to honor it?
Mentioned in episode:
* Intro to Thanabotony class from Cole Imperi
* Piñon Pine Sacred Resin Oil from Deschampsia
* Artemisia Trinity Oil from With/In Herbals
* Radical Remedies: An Herbalist's Guide to Empowered Self-Care by Brittany Ducham
* Lune Innate and Whispers of the Wolf Reiki ASMR on YouTube
* The lungs are associated with grief in traditional Chinese medicine
* Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters in the End by Atul Gawande
* Accompanying the Dying: Practical, Heart-Centered Wisdom for End-Of-Life Doulas and Health Care Advocates by Deanna Cochran
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Jun 21, 2021
Ep 2: Putting Men in Danger for Salty Duck
Pickled Scottish birds, Street Art and it’s ephemeral nature, bird song, holly for protection and boundary magic, cheese in Spain, fertility rocks, chalk path in England.
We begin by comparing notes on two books by naturalist and wanderer Robert MacFarlane, and we end by making a pact to eat pickled birds in Scotland. Along the way, we get into the reasons why we’re drawn to street art, ways to use holly in your magic practice, how bad we are at identifying bird songs, and what Kathy’s grandmother has to do with both Spanish cheese and fertility stones. We talk about friends we love, and we swear a bunch. It’s all pretty enjoyable.
Mentioned in the episode:
* Landmarks and The Old Ways, both by Robert MacFarlane
* Landscape artist Andy Goldsworthy
* Carolee, a California artist
* Donovan Beeson, a Chicago artist
* Street artists Jason Kofke, Shepard Fairey, Banksy, Jim Bachor, David Zinn, and our friend Shana Hampton
* Alexis Nikole, BlackForager on Instagram
* The Salt Path by Raynor Winn
* Dark Skies: A Journey Into the Wild Night by Tiffany Francis
* A Druid's Herbal for the Sacred Earth Year by Ellen Evert Hopman
* Celtic Tree Rituals by Sharlyn Hidalgo
* Perfect Chocolate Chip Cookie recipe by Christina Tosi
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Mar 24, 2021
Ep 1: Curious, Not a Narc
We talk about urban foraging and how that relates to focusing on small details and slowly gaining confidence in plant identification. We also explore how murder mysteries have influenced our herbalism education, the fear and allure of poison plant gardens, and the ever-relevant question of how to survive a zombie apocalypse. Lastly, Kateri talks about how she harvests and creates her conifer herbal oil.
*Mentioned in episode:*
* Miss Polly, a Portland herbalist
* Leafsnap app
* Pacific Northwest Medicinal Plants: Identify, Harvest, and Use 120 Wild Herbs for Health and Wellness by Scott Kloos
* Carolee, a California artist
* Rosemary & Thyme, BBC murder mystery and gardening show
* Rebecca Altman's conifer infused oil recipe
Intro & outro music: "Veracruz" by Quincas Moreira
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