Self Love (Not the Fun Kind!) and Empty Nests
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Self Love (Not the Fun Kind!) and Empty Nests. Susie and Steve talk about self love (not the fun kind!), maintaining good self esteem and social media as a force for good. And it's Father's Day! We riff on empty nesters and how parents become people again. Guest Daniel Bowen (dad of two) talks about the joy of getting to choose his own music and sadness as kids move on and out. 

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