Democracy Paradox
Democracy Paradox
Mar 21, 2023
Josh Chin on China's Surveillance State
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It's hard to believe what was happening in Xinjiang and most Chinese people didn't believe, but now they do. A lot of them do.

Josh Chin

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Josh Chin is the Deputy Bureau Chief for China at the Wall Street Journal and the coauthor with Liza Lin of the book Surveillance State: Inside China's Quest to Launch a New Era of Social Control.

Key Highlights

  • Introduction - 0:38
  • Describing Xinjiang - 2:38
  • Social Engineering - 11:21
  • Privacy in China - 19:08
  • AI in China - 28:23

Key Links

Surveillance State: Inside China's Quest to Launch a New Era of Social Control by Josh Chin and Liza Lin

Read more from Josh Chin in the Wall Street Journal

"The Mandarin in the Machine" A review of Surveillance State in Journal of Democracy by Will Dobson

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