What We're Missing in our Conversations About Leadership
37 min

In 2015, Jim published the book, Lead So Others Can Follow. It was a call for a different kind of leadership, what he calls "Spiritual Leadership."

In this episode, we discuss the church's current interest in leadership topics and what is missing from those discussions. Jim shares how he came to recognize the need for leadership to flow out of a personal spiritual depth and why ministers must find better ways to unite these two parts of themselves. 

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