Whistleblowing Now and Then
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Whistleblowing Now and Then is hosted by Anna Myers, Executive Director of the Whistleblowing International Network.
Join Whistleblowing Now and Then to hear about the most important issues of the day for whistleblowing, featuring interviews with experts, whistleblowers and advocates from around the world. Whistleblowing Now and Then is produced by Verity Loughlin, Communications Officer at WIN. The theme music is by the Routes Quartet and edited by Josh Brown.
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Mar 26, 2023
Culture & Justice: Europe and Latin America
Welcome to a special series of the Whistleblowing Now and Then podcast, called:
The Public Interest and National Security Whistleblowing: Looking Back, Thinking Forward.
This 3-part series is a collaboration between Whistleblowing International Network and Kaeten Mistry, Associate Professor of History at the University of East Anglia, and co-author of the book Whistleblowing Nation: The History of National Security Disclosures and Cult of State Secrecy.
This week’s episode looks at Europe and Latin America. Events in the UK and the US often dominate the agenda when it comes to secrecy and whistleblowing, but the debates and traditions outside the Anglosphere are a crucial part of the discussion. Today we explore these different secrecy cultures and the indigenous roots of concepts and civil society action. And we grapple with the role of historical memory and the legacy of authoritarian regimes.
To unpack this, we sit down with two leading experts on whistleblowing in Europe and Latin America. Bruno Galizzi, co-founder of the European Whistleblowing Institute, and Jean-Philippe Foegle, a jurist who was instrumental in drafting and passing the new French whistleblower law, which was adopted in March of 2022.
Additional Reading:
Le Monde – Lanceurs d'alerte, histoire d'un concept
A podcast by the prominent french newspaper Le Monde about the history of whistleblowers in the French context, and how the term “lanceur d'alerte” was coined.
Conseil d'Etat – Les droit d'alerte : signaler, traiter, protéger
A landmark report by the French council of state on whistleblowers, which inspired the 2016 “Sapin 2” law and contributed to the legitimization of whistleblowers in France.
Lanceur d'alerte :entretien avec Francis Chateauraynaud
An interview with Francis Chateauraynaud, the sociologist who coined the notion of 'lanceur d'alerte' in the 90's.
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Mar 5, 2023
USA: Secrecy Superpower
Welcome to a special series of the Whistleblowing Now and Then podcast, called:
The Public Interest and National Security Whistleblowing: Looking Back, Thinking Forward.
This 3-part series is a collaboration between Whistleblowing International Network and Kaeten Mistry, Associate Professor of History at the University of East Anglia, and co-author of the book Whistleblowing Nation: The History of National Security Disclosures and Cult of State Secrecy.
This week’s episode looks at the United States. A nation founded on the principles of free speech and open government, is today home to the largest state secrecy regime in human history. A country that does not permit national security officials making public interest disclosures, has nonetheless produced some of the most famous cases of national security whistleblowing that have made history such as Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, and Daniel Ellsberg.
Such cases have generated widespread debate about security and liberty, secrecy, and transparency, in the U.S. and internationally. Yet while public interest disclosures are commonly seen as whistleblowing in the public sphere, they are deemed to be “unauthorized disclosures” by the US government.
To unpack this, we sit down with two leading experts of whistleblowing and secrecy in the United States. Tom Devine, Legal Director at the Government Accountability Project and Sam Lebovic, Associate Professor of History at George Mason University, author of the prize-winning book Free Speech and Unfree News.
*Additional Reading*
*Citizenfour (2014)*
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A documentary concerning Edward Snowden and the NSA surveillance program.
*National Bird (2016)*
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A documentary following 3 whistleblowers including Daniel Hale who was a former National Security Agency (NSA) intelligence analyst who sent classified information about drone warfare to the press.
*United States v. Reality Winner (2021)*
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A documentary exploring story of 25-year-old NSA contractor Reality Winner who disclosed a document about Russian election interference to the media and became a target of the Trump administration.
*TOP SECRET: Our Classified Documents System Is [Redacted] | The Problem With Jon Stewart Podcast*
Jon Stewart and Matt Connelly discuss the U.S. classification system and system of secrecy.
*Whistleblowing and the Press Panel*
The keynote panel on ‘Whistleblowing and the Press’ at the conference Exposing Secrets: The Past, Present & Future of US National Security Whistleblowing and Government Secrecy, featured US intelligence community whistleblowers, Edward Snowden and John Kiriakou, and The Guardian journalist Ewen MacAskill, in conversation with Kaeten Mistry.
The Espionage Act Has Been Abused — But Not in Trump’s Case | Politico
Opinion piece by Jameel Jaffer, Executive Director of the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University, on the Espionage Act and the need for reform.
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Feb 19, 2023
Secrets: A Very British Affair
Welcome to a special series of the Whistleblowing Now and Then podcast, called:
The Public Interest and National Security Whistleblowing: Looking Back, Thinking Forward.
This 3-part series is a collaboration between Whistleblowing International Network and Kaeten Mistry, Associate Professor of History at the University of East Anglia, and co-author of the book Whistleblowing Nation: The History of National Security Disclosures and Cult of State Secrecy.
The podcasts will consider how secrecy and liberty, and security and openness became competing concepts within democratic societies. We’ll examine these questions within and across national and regional boundaries, looking at Europe, North America, and South America. We’ll delve into issues relating to the United States, UK, Spain, France, Argentina, and Chile, among others.
Today’s episode is entitled, “Secrets: A Very British Affair.” We speak to Martin Bright, Editor-at-Large at Index on Censorship, and Maurice Frankel, Director at Campaign for Freedom of Information, about public interest whistleblowing, government transparency, and state secrecy in the United Kingdom.
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In addition to the podcast series, we share resources supporting those working on issues relating to whistleblowing, the public interest, and strengthening civil society organisations.
Below are some resources related to Episode 1.
*Briefing on the National Security Bill - Protect*
This briefing (2022) outlines the concerns of Protect, the UK’s whistleblowing organisation and legal advice centre, about new offences in the new National Security Bill that may criminalise whistleblowing where it involves disclosures to foreign regulators and journalists.
*Introducing a public interest disclosure defence - Matrix and Mishcon de Reya LLP*
This briefing paper by lawyers from Matrix and Mishcon de Reya, sets out the basis for the introduction of a public interest disclosure defence for breaches of the Official Secrets Acts (“OSAs”) or any replacement Espionage Act.
*When We Speak (2022)*
'When We Speak', directed by Tas Brooker, follows 3 whistleblowers: Katherine Gunn, Rose McGowan, and Helen Evans. By cutting between these stories, Brooker highlights their common threads, abuses of power, and exploited vulnerabilities. Crises of conscience, painful examinations of where one’s loyalties lie. We hear the motivation behind the decision to blow the whistle, and we see its dramatic fallout. The film offers a human perspective, on what can often be quite an abstract discussion. You can listen back to the Whistleblowing Now and Then episode with Director Tas Brooker here.
*Official Secrets (2019)*
Official Secrets is a film based on the case of whistleblower Katharine Gun who worked as a linguist at the UK’s government communication headquarters (GCHQ). In 2003, she intercepted an email from the US National Security Agency - an email asking GCHQ to assist the US in their efforts to legitimise a war on Iraq. She made a copy of the memo – given anonymously to a journalist at the Observer – as she believed revealing the proposed bugging and blackmail tactics might Support the show
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Nov 1, 2022
Episode 6: Tas Brooker, Director of 'When We Speak', Whistleblowing Documentary
On this week's episode WIN's Communications Officer, Verity Loughlin is joined by Tas Brooker - the director of the upcoming whistleblowing documentary 'When We Speak'.
Tas has been working as a producer across Film and TV for over 15 years. Her work has spanned everything from music, film, and cars to hard-hitting documentaries such as Channel 4's Dispatches, and the BBC's Panorama. In 2016 Tas co-founded the production company, Wiser Films, with Jim Wiseman.
'When We Speak' follows 3 whistleblowers; Katherine Gunn, Rose McGowan, and Helen Evans. By cutting between these stories, Brooker highlights their common threads, abuses of power, and exploited vulnerabilities. Crises of conscience, painful examinations of where one’s loyalties lie. We hear the motivation behind the decision to whistleblow, and we see its dramatic fallout.
Verity and Tas discuss the process of gaining trust and working with whistleblowers to tell their stories, the personal cost these women faced not only professionally but financially for speaking out as well as the role journalists play in handling whistleblower stories.
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Jun 23, 2022
Episode 5: Vladimir Radomirović and Dragana Matović, Founders of Pištaljka
To celebrate World Whistleblower Day 2022, Anna Myers interviews Vladimir Radomirović and Dragana Matović the founders of whistleblowing platform Pištaljka. They discuss how and why they decided to set up Pištaljka, challenges they experienced along the way and the important relationship between whistleblowers and journalists. Support the show
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Jan 19, 2021
Episode 4: Samantha Feinstein, Staff Attorney and Deputy Director of the International Program at Government Accountability Project
In advance of the inauguration of Joe Biden, Vigjilenca Abazi interviews Samantha Feinstein, Staff Attorney and Deputy Director of the International Program at Government Accountability Project. They discuss Samantha's work and recommendations for the incoming administration. Plus Anna Meyers reflects on the podcast's first year. Support the show
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Nov 19, 2020
Episode 3: Tom Devine, Legal Director at the Government Accountability Project
How has COVID-19 impacted whistleblowing? Vigjilenca Abazi interviews Tom Devine, Legal Director at the Government Accountability Project. The Government Accountability Project's mission is to promote corporate and government accountability by protecting whistleblowers, advancing occupational free speech, and empowering citizen activists.Support the show
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Sep 14, 2020
Episode 2: Marcin Waszak, Senior Specialist at the Stefan Batory Foundation
How has COVID-19 impacted whistleblowing? Vigjilenca Abazi interviews Marcin Waszak, Senior Specialist at the Stefan Batory Foundation. The mission of the Stefan Batory Foundation is to build an open, democratic society in Poland and in Central and Eastern Europe.Support the show
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Aug 4, 2020
Episode 1: Elizabeth Gardiner, Chief Executive of Protect
How has COVID-19 impacted whistleblowing? Anna Myers interviews Elizabeth Gardiner, the Chief Executive of UK charity Protect who have been advising whistleblowers and working with employers to achieve speak up best practice for over 25 years.Support the show
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May 25, 2020
Trailer | Whistleblowing Now and Then
Listen now to the Whistleblowing Now and Then trailer with an introduction from Anna Myers.Support the show
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