Darnell Fine and Jessica Jones Talk Black Joy, Rage, and Imagination
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This week on the show we are trying something new, Trevor and I are rotating co-hosting duties with our core team members from the Learning That Transfers team. This week features co-host Nichelle Pinkney, who is our social studies specialist and currently works as an instructional coach and curriculum specialist for a large school district in Texas. 

So this conversation was pretty special. We had two guests on to discuss diversity, equity, and inclusion, but it was really to me about the Black experience, and I personally learned so much. I’m still thinking about the concept of “validation” of different people’s experiences, different people’s views of what is professionalism, what is success, even what is possible. What was your big takeaway from our chat? 

 What I loved is how they were so unapologetically black in a time when many fail to be. The idea that despite the historical oppression of blacks we have the opportunity to imagine new possibilities and unearth so many levels of potential through studying and celebrating black culture and ingenuity.

 I simply love the idea of imagining the type of reality, the type of community we can build, one that honors the inherent dignity and worth of every human being, one where all people are able to fully be who they truly are, one where people seldom use power to dominate or control other people’s lives. And this conversation was a great part of my personal journey in trying to help to bring that type of reality to life. We hope you enjoy. 

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