Making Friends as an Interracial Couple #13
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This week on It’s Not All Black and White, Cera and Matthew discuss the accidental phenomenon that their new friends that they have made together have been primarily other interracial couples. They discuss:

  1. Friends in early life for Cera and Matthew
  2. Making friends in 20s and 30s
  3. Non-diverse friendships growing up in racially homogenous places/communities
  4. Tinder racially profiled me
  5. White men dating black women
  6. Not long ago, we would have been illegal in Kenya AND the United States
  7. Aware of the fact that we are a minority as an interracial couple
  8. We are noticed, looked at, stared at, commented on when we go out
  9. In Kenya, meeting interracial couples wasn’t intnetional, but who our friends are
  10. Sharing unspoken, common experiences

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MATTHEW started his career as an accidental filmmaker. He wrote a “practice script,”  hoping one day he could write one that he could sell or produce. That script became his first film, “Senses of Place,” which went on to win awards on the film festival circuit and was distributed by FilmBuff. 

Matthew then moved to Hollywood where he eventually made nine feature films, eight documentaries, and worked with actors Carrie-Anne Moss, Zac Efron, Edi Gathegi, Melora Hardin and many more. He worked with producers Kevin Costner, Bill Borden – Academy Award winner Francis Ford Coppola and Oscar-nominated director Mike Johnson. He has even shared the screen with Josh Brolin, Neil Patrick Harris, Kane Hodder, Naveen Andrews, and many more.

Last year, he released the documentary film, “Hardball: The Girls of Summer.” Currently, he lives between California and East Africa, writing and developing new projects, while consulting on film and TV projects. 

Visit his website to see his work – or check him out on

CERA graduated from UCLA with a degree in International Development and Entrepreneurship in 2018, after living in Los Angeles for eight years. 

She grew up in rural Kenya and at the age of nine, she lost her childhood home to civil war. That forced her to move to a Nairobi ghetto, where she experienced a different kind of poverty.

This experience shaped her mission. She returned to Kenya to start Ecodunia, a social enterprise that makes a difference in the lives of the poor by creating work opportunities and educating girls from under-priviledged communities. Ecodunia is not only driven by profit, but with a mission to lift people out of generational poverty, while making beautiful, useful and sustainable products. 

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