Talking about Coaching
Yannick Jacob, Siawash Zahmat & Nicki Drab
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Does what it says on the tin: We talk about coaching. We, that is Yannick, Siawash and Nicki. We love coaching, collectively got a tonne of experience, knowledge and charm; and we all felt it was time to give something back to our wonderful coaching community. Whether you're a life coach, work with organisations or practice any other form of coaching, you can ask us anything and we'll discuss it for and with you so you can learn, grow and develop your practice and business skills!
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Jun 28, 2022
Deep Dive with Tessa Dodwell - Coaching a Lost Sense of Self: Retirement and Transitions
Welcome to this episode of Talking about Coaching, the podcast from coaches for coaches.
In this conversation, we get to know Tessa, whose life-long passion for psychology and transformation shifted her career in the fast-moving logistics sector into coaching for change and transformation.
She works with individuals as well as businesses, always looking for positive, forward-facing ways to create change, achieve outcomes, and finding the right next steps required to make change happen. She has a special interest in the 'lost sense of self' that often accompanies change and transition, and she often writes and presents on that topic.
Links:
Bridges Transition Model - William Bridges Associates (wmbridges.com)
Coaching approaches for a lost sense of self – hunt it down or let it be? - Coaching Practiced - (Wiley Online Library: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/9781119835714.ch16)
What is Kubler Ross Change Curve? | Stages & Advantages CMI (changemanagementinsight.com)
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May 5, 2022
Where are good places to advertise myself as a coach? Episode 47
It seems to be the oldest question in the book: How do I get more coaching clients. I have a valuable service to offer and my clients really benefit, but how do I get my message in front of them? Those who hate being on social media or going to networks events may be considering paid advertising as a potential route into creating new leads, and so today our resident coaches Nicki, Siawash and Yannick will be talking about where coaches might advertise, what advertising is really about, how it may fit into a wider marketing strategy, and how not to waste 20k on failed campaigns.
See also:
Episode 43: I sign up clients by talking to people. How can I create more conversations?
Episode 2: How do I get more clients?
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Apr 21, 2022
Group Coaching: what’s that about? Episode 46
More and more coaches are interested in working with groups. SOme of that is motivated by being able to make coaching more affordable, and hence accessible - perfect for coaches who want to put their fees up but concerned that coaching shouldn’t be exclusive. But working with groups comes with layers of added complexity and it can be quite elusive as to what it is and how it can work. From life coaching groups to working with leadership teams, it’s a broad range, and today our resident hosts Yannick, Siawash and Nicki will be shining a light on how we might understand group coaching, what group work might look like, some of the benefits and pitfalls, as well as some practical insight into how Siawash and Yannick structure and run their groups.
See also:
Episode 32: I want to charge more, but I don't feel confident that I'm worth it. Help!
Episode 33: I want to charge more. How can I increase my prices? (Part 2)
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Apr 7, 2022
My client’s goal is abstract and vague. How can I make it tangible and SMART? Episode 45
We’ve all been there: our client comes to coaching and present with something supre vague, like feeling more fulfilled, calmer, wanting a “better mindset”, or feeling more authentic. How might we work with something like that? Can we make such a goal more SMART (specific, measurable, achievable, relevant and time-bound)? Is that even desirable or of service to the client? In this episode our resident coaches Siawash, Nicki and Yannick discuss various ways to work with abstract goals, whether that’s making them more tangible, even measurable, or to explore what this goal is really about and to sit with the uncertainty and learn to trust the coaching process, even if it’s not as clear as we’d like it to be.
See also:
Episode 21: Can I coach clients without setting a goal?
Episode 3: How do I coach a client who comes to coaching with no agenda
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Mar 17, 2022
My client is not getting the results they came for. What do I do? - Episode 44
Most of us have been there: our clients are not hitting their targets, they’re not doing their work, in some way or another they’re not achieving what they came to coaching for. Is this your fault? The client’s? Do any of you need to work harder? How do you address this? In this episode of talking about coaching our residents Yannick, Siawash and Nicki are exploring how we might navigate such situations. We talk about contracting, how to make sure that your client is getting what they want, or perhaps what they need, we talk about what the purpose of coaching is and appreciate the range of coaching approaches, some more and some less fixated, oriented, or focused on results.
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Mar 3, 2022
I sign up clients by talking to people. How can I create more conversations? Episode 43
Steve Chandler and his disciples teach us that coaching clients are created through conversations, and they encourage us to seek as many conversations as we can with the intent to serve whomever we talk to. Now what happens when we run out of people to talk to? Somewhat rephrased for the sake of space in today’s episode’s title, the original question for today is: “I ran out of people to talk to about coaching. How can I create more conversations that may lead to paying clients?”
Siawash starts us off by questioning the intent of the inquiry and along the way we discuss ways in which we might create more conversations, that, indeed, may lead to more paying clients, even though we may need to let go of being too attached to that being the outcome.
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*MORE DEEP DIVES into coaching at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite*
*SHORT EPISODES of Talking about Coaching addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching*
*You can also find us on all major podcast platforms.*
*If you'd like to SUPPORT WHAT WE DO, please consider a positive review, leave a comment or tell a friend or colleague about this episode.*
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*SEE GREAT COACHES IN ACTION by joining Yannick's Coaching Lab. Every 1st Tuesday of the month we invite an experienced coach for a 45min live coaching session, and you can be a fly on the wall! This is followed by conversations and Q&A with the coach and client as well as optional practice triads in breakout rooms during part 2 of the Lab. More info on upcoming events at https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs*
*Coaching Lab members have access to the entire vault of recorded coaching sessions (https://bit.ly/LabRecordings). You can sign up at https://bit.ly/CoachingLabMembership"*
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Feb 17, 2022
Leading questions - Are they bad? Episode 42
In this episodes we’re discussing leading questions, and whether they’re really a big no-no, as often taught in coach training programmes, or whether there may be some value in offering direction as a coach, or even to ask questions in a way that makes the client think they’ve come up with the solution themselves, empowering in some way, manipulative if you look at it differently. We discuss the range of leading questions, the ethics of consciously leading your clients, the weight of taking on the responsibility when we choose to lead our clients, and the importance of supervision as to avoid leading in an unconscious way.
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*MORE DEEP DIVES into coaching at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66D6uqPJhCznXNhc9Ba9jite*
*SHORT EPISODES of Talking about Coaching addressing specific questions: https://www.youtube.com/talkingaboutcoaching*
*You can also find us on all major podcast platforms.*
*If you'd like to SUPPORT WHAT WE DO, please consider a positive review, leave a comment or tell a friend or colleague about this episode.*
*You can also BECOME A PATREON at https://www.patreon.com/talkingaboutcoaching*
*SEE GREAT COACHES IN ACTION by joining Yannick's Coaching Lab. Every 1st Tuesday of the month we invite an experienced coach for a 45min live coaching session, and you can be a fly on the wall! This is followed by conversations and Q&A with the coach and client as well as optional practice triads in breakout rooms during part 2 of the Lab. More info on upcoming events at https://bit.ly/FutureCoachingLabs*
*Coaching Lab members have access to the entire vault of recorded coaching sessions (https://bit.ly/LabRecordings). You can sign up at https://bit.ly/CoachingLabMembership"*
*THANKS for being a coach. You're making the world a better place! *
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Feb 3, 2022
I keep slipping into coaching mode with friends. What do I do? Episode 41
Most coaches have experienced this: we’re with a friend, they tell us about a problem, dream or challenge they experience, and before we know it we’ve got our coaching hat on and asking questions, feeding back, clarifying, summarising or applying a process to help them figure this out. We likely didn’t ask for permission to coach them. We may be quite different with our coaching hat on and our friend somewhat irritated. Possibly they know us like that because we aren’t ‘doing’ coaching, we ARE coaches. Is it even a problem (as the question implies) or are we being an even better friend? How might this compare to other professions and when might it be appropriate to wear our coaching hat for a moment, perhaps even invite a friend into a formal coaching space? What are the pitfalls when we coach a friend? And how might we contract in such a situation? In this episode our resident coaches Yannick and Nicki talk about this and more, and we give special thanks to Alice for sending in the question!
See also:
Episode 16 - Am I giving too much value during my coaching consultations?
Episode 09 - Is it best to coach clients in person (compared to video or phone)?
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Jan 20, 2022
My client sees me as the expert. How do I manage the power dynamics? Episode 40
Some coaches set themselves up as the expert in a certain area or niche. Others work very hard to meet their clients at eye level as to facilitate a process in which they can create their own expertise and take full responsibility for the way forward. And by no means is this a black-and-white issue in coaching. Sometimes the client maneuvers us into a position of expert as to avoid responsibility or simply because expert advice is what they’re after. It can be a complex dynamic to navigate. In this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Yannick and Nicki discuss the various elements at play in such a situation, the risks and benefits of being (seen as) the expert, and how we might manage such a situation when it presents itself. We also invite coaches to reflect to what extent they contribute to this process and what they can do to prevent it (if, indeed, that’s what they want).
See also:
Episode 29 - I find it difficult to challenge my clients. What do I do?
Episode 23 - My client is asking for direct advice. What do I do?
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Dec 11, 2021
I have a hangover, do I need to cancel my coaching session? Episode 39
What started as a joke question after Nicki missed our last recording session became an interesting question about when to cancel a coaching session due to pain, feeling unwell or other distractions that may prevent us from being fully present with our clients. How much can we keep in our metaphorical box? At what point is it no longer appropriate to coach? How might we have that conversation? What’s at stake when we a) cancel or b) go ahead with the session? Do we need to disclose what’s going on for us? In this episode our resident coaches Yannick and Nicki have a much richer conversations than they had anticipated. Shout outs to Siawash who couldn’t make it today (non-hangover related ;) )
See also:
Episode 6 - What shall I wear as a coach?
Episode 25 - What are good metaphors to explain how coaching works?
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Nov 11, 2021
Episode 38 - Do I need to be obsessed or grind long hours to be a successful coach?
We hear this a lot from the coaches who are most visible on social media: In order to be successful you must be obsessed with coaching and/or with building a business. You must do the grind if you want to make it. Those who work the hardest are the most successful. Coaches who are obsessed with helping their clients, with personal development or with a particular style of coaching, those will be successful. It is often implied that those who are not obsessed or work 14 hours/day won’t make it. In this episode of the Talking about Coaching Podcast our resident coaches Siawash and Nicki talk about how we might define success, obsession or grind and offer some context on the discussion. We share some of our personal stories and approaches, challenge some of the success narratives out there and we offer a way to success without detriment to your wellbeing and livelihood.
See also:
Episode 33 - I want to charge more. How can I increase my prices? (Part 2)
Episode 24 - How can I scale my…
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Oct 14, 2021
What needs to be in my coaching contract? - Episode 37
Good contracting may be one of the most important skills of a successful coach. Most times when a coach feels stuck with a client, doesn’t know how to proceed or encounters a challenging situation, the answers lies in what you’ve agreed with this client. In this episodes of the podcast our resident coaches Yannick and Siawash talk about whether the contract needs to be written or verbal, we propose a range of topics we might want to (should?) include in this conversations (beyond logistics, finances and expectations) and we make offer some general insights into why it is so important to get this part of the relationship right, as well as a number of practical tips and advice on how this can be done.
See also:
Episode 36 - How do you start a coaching session?
Episode 21 - Can I coach clients without setting a goal?
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Sep 5, 2021
Deep Dive: Talking about Coaching with Ankush Jain: Coaching and The 3 Principles
Welcome to this episode of Talking about Coaching, the podcast from coaches for coaches.
This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person and we're talking to Ankush Jain, 6 figure coach, trained in the 3 principles approach, long term coaching client and colleague of the great Steve Chandler, and all-round excellent human being. I loved Ankush's vibe and found resonating with most of what he talks about. We had a wonderfully warm and inspiring conversation and I hope you'll be leaving this space as excited about coaching as I was when we hung up. You can learn more about Ankush and his work at
Ankush Jain Limited - Transformative Coaching
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Sep 2, 2021
How do you start a coaching session? - Episode 36
What’s your process for starting a coaching session? is a question we hear often. “Well, it depends” is often the answer. And that’s also the way this episode starts. Our resident coaches Yannick, Siwash & Nicki are illuminating what these factors are and talk you through how they start coaching sessions. Plus we’re inviting all listeners to share their own processes of how to jump into a coaching session with a client.
See also:
Episode 19 - How do you prepare for a coaching session?
Episode 35 - What do I need in my “Coaching Starter Pack”?
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Aug 19, 2021
What do I need in my “Coaching Starter Pack”? Episode 35
We’ve interpreted this question in two ways: 1) What do I need to start practicing as a coach? And 2) When a client signs up for coaching, what might I send them to get going and transition well into the process of coaching? So here we are talking about beginnings and how might get going when starting our coaching business or when starting to work with a new client.
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Aug 5, 2021
How can I create a steady stream of clients? - Episode 34
So many coaches dread doing “marketing”, being visible on social media, figuring out advertising, or going to network events, only to create a steady stream of clients for their coaching business. While there is no way around building bridges or creating touch points of some sort between you and prospective clients, there are many ways to do this, and in today’s episode our resident coaches Yannick & Siawash are talking about different pathways towards creating a steady flow of conversations and what you need to convert these into paying clients. In the process we’re reframing the terms “sales” and “marketing” and we’re offering ample advice and valuable ideas for how you can stabilize your income from your coaching work by learning some simple business practices and thinking about which of these might resonate with you.
See also:
Episode 02 - How do I get more clients?
Episode 24 - How can I scale my coaching business?
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Jul 22, 2021
Episode 33 - I want to charge more. How can I increase my prices? (Part 2)
Last episode we talked about why every coach can (even should) be confident about charging for the space they create for their clients. “Just” being there for and with them, offering our undivided attention, helps greatly and often works wonders. However, many coaches are keen to increase their prices but don’t feel confident about it. In this episode our resident coaches Yannick & Siawash are picking up the thread from the conversation we’ve started and talking about the many factors that play into our coaching fees. Offering lots of practical advice and encouragement for coaches who are earning less than £5000/month, we’re talking you through the following list of elements that will (even should) influence and guide the kind of fees you’re charging. We’re confident that by the end of this episode you will feel compelled, and have a lot of solid reasons to increase your current fees. These are:
* Client's ROI/the value that the client is walking away with
* Market…
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Jul 9, 2021
Deep Dive with Georgie Nightingall - The Power of Conversations (and how to create more of them)
Welcome to this episode of Talking about Coaching, the podcast from coaches for coaches.
This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person and we're talking to Georgie Nightingall, founder of Trigger Conversations and transformational life coach. I love Georgie's inspired thinking, the way she deeply contemplates and reflects and how she's learned to strike up conversations with strangers (which is a GOLDEN skill when it comes to creating a successful coaching practice. We're exploring a range of topics in this conversation, which, I'm sure, will leave you hungry for more.
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Jul 1, 2021
I want to charge more, but I don't feel confident that I'm worth it. Help! Episode 32
Lots of coaches would like to charge more for their coaching, but don’t feel confident that they’re worth the money. This can have a variety of reasons such as our own money stories, what the word “sell” means to us, and often a lack of some basic technical skills with regards to how we talk to our clients and how we run consultations. We believe every coach can (even should) be confident about charging for their time and the space they create for their clients. “Just being there” for and with them, offering our undivided attention, helps greatly and often works wonders. However, many coaches are keen to increase their prices but don’t think that their coaching is worth it. In this short episode our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki are laying the groundwork for a longer conversation about how to raise our prices.
See also:
Episode 33 - I want to charge more. How can I increase my prices? (Part 2)
Episode 05 - How much should I charge for coaching?
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Jun 17, 2021
Coaching while walking: Is walk&talk a viable approach? Episode 31
Even before we were hit with a global pandemic, coaching while walking, walk’n’talk, coaching in nature and other forms of being outside of a coaching “room” have sparked our interest. Now, more than ever, coaching clients outside has become relevant to many coaches. That’s why in this episode our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki are discussing the benefits and pitfalls of coaching clients while walking. Done well your clients are in their bodies and there’s lots to be picked up on on a somatic level. You’re working shoulder-to-shoulder and this creates a wonderful dynamic. Elements you encounter on your walk can be used for the coaching work or as metaphors or here-and-now moments of learning and insight. Done badly it can seem unprofessional and awkward. So let’s talk about it. If you’ve done some walk-and-talks, we look forward to you sharing your input and experiences on this topic.
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Jun 3, 2021
I find it really hard to end sessions on time and often go over. What can I do? Episode 30
A surprising majority of coaches we talk to regularly go over the agreed time for their coaching sessions. At the very least it happens occasionally. In therapy it’s a big no-go! Coaches seem to be a lot more relaxed about this, some even plan going over time into their contract and are more flexible. What we do know is that it affects our relationship and the boundaries we create in some form or another, and so in today’s episode our resident coaches Yannick Jacob, Siawash Zahmat and Nicki Drab are talking about time, boundaries and some really practical advice on how we can end sessions on time, as well as when it may be important to go over.
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May 20, 2021
I find it difficult to challenge my clients. What do I do? - Episode 29
No decent coach enjoys making their clients uncomfortable. And yet, in order to grow fast, our clients often need to leave their comfort zone and venture into uncharted territory. An important part of the process is for the coach to offer questions and observations that may challenge the client’s beliefs or worldview. Many coaches, especially at the beginning of their journey, shy away from challenging confidently and to offer this in a way that’s productive. In this episode our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss why challenging is important, how it can be done constructively, and we explore various theoretical models and practical metaphors for how this can and should be done in service of the client’s agenda.
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May 10, 2021
Deep Dive with Sasha van Deurzen Smith: Existential Coaching
This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person. We're talking to Sasha van Deurzen Smith, existential coach, Programme Leader of the MA in Existential Coaching at the New School for Psychotherapy and Counselling, daughter of Emmy van Deurzen and one of the first coaches with a Masters in Existential Coaching. We've got a lot to talk about and we hope you'll enjoy our philosophical and yet very practical musings on coaching.
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May 6, 2021
I feel responsible for my client's success. Am I? - Episode 28
Many coaches carry the weight of feeling responsible for their clients’ success (or lack thereof). We hear about this often in supervision. When it takes longer than planned for their clients to reach their goal or they get frustrated along the way, many coaches ask: Could I have done more? What did I do wrong so that this client doesn’t achieve what they set out to do? What if they ask for their money back or leave me a bad review? Am I good enough? What else can I do to get them to move forward?
The weight of taking on too much responsibility can weigh heavily on a coach, and so our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki thought it was important to address this question and talk about the extent to which we share responsibility for our clients’ success or failure. What can and what can we not control or influence? How far are we willing and able to go with our support? What did we promise and contract at the beginning?
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Apr 22, 2021
How can I structure an effective coaching session? Episode 27
What is effective coaching? And what does an effective coaching session look like? How would you structure a session for an effective outcome? What’s the process? Much of the answers to these questions depend on individual context, but effective coaching also has many elements in common. In this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss their takes on effective coaching, how structure provides safety for clients and coaches alike, and why particularly those who are new to coaching will appreciate a clearly structured session to guide them towards an effective outcome. WIth time and maturity, effective coaching may take on many forms and we draw some of these learnings out as we reflect on our fresh, 4-year and decade-long experience, respectively.
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Apr 20, 2021
Deep Dive with Eric Larson: Coaching, Play and Infinite Games
This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person. We're talking to Eric Larson, coach of 15 years and with over 10.000 hours on his back. We're exploring the importance of play in coaching both as a technique as well as a rich metaphor for how people approach life. We talk about finite games, infinite games, how to figure out the "rules" and lots more.
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Mar 13, 2021
What’s your advice for coaching via Zoom?
When the CoViD-19 pandemic peaked in 2020, most coaches started working exclusively online, and so our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki decided to share some of their most asked-about tips and tricks for running coaching sessions via video conferencing. We’ll talk about lighting, eye contact, external cameras, and how we don’t need to buy fancy equipment to make coaching work effectively online.
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Mar 13, 2021
How can I structure an effective coaching session?
What is effective coaching? And what does an effective coaching session look like? How would you structure a session for an effective outcome? What’s the process? Much of the answers to these questions depend on individual context, but effective coaching also has many elements in common. In this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss their takes on effective coaching, how structure provides safety for clients and coaches alike, and why particularly those who are new to coaching will appreciate a clearly structured session to guide them towards an effective outcome. WIth time and maturity, effective coaching may take on many forms and we draw some of these learnings out as we reflect on our fresh, 4-year and decade-long experience, respectively.
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Jan 28, 2021
What are good metaphors to explain how coaching works?
Explaining what coaching is (and isn’t) is an important part of the process for coaches who set up the working alliance and contract for an effective coaching space. Metaphors can help tremendously to help clients grasp and understand coaching. Since there’s a broad range of what coaching might look like and entail and everybody seems to have their own definition and approach, our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki decided to each share one metaphor that they sometimes use to explain the differences between coaching, therapy, mentoring, consulting, teaching and being a friend. In the process we’ll talk about surfing, driving a car and mountaineering, and we find that these metaphors are richer and more versatile than we had thought.
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Nov 5, 2020
How not to get scammed when choosing a coaching business course?
Nicki wanted to give her coaching practice a business boost and asked us how to choose the right kind of programme out of the jungle of available courses online. Without advertising any specific courses or programmes, in this episode we’re talking about the criteria and questions that are important to consider before making such a choice. We’re talking about how to find out which programme might be a good match, how to make sure you’re not getting scammed or sucked into large investments by a charismatic salesperson or marketing material. And we’re hearing first-hand about one coach’s journey through the jungle of business programmes. We’d love to hear your perspective on this. Do join the conversation!
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Oct 28, 2020
Can I coach clients without setting a goal?
Marina is one of the many coaches who I recently talked to about how essential goal setting is to our work as coaches. Can we coach someone without having a clear agenda? Does it need to be SMART (specific, measurable, achievable, relevant and time-bound)? Is it okay if the goal emerges along the way? What if it’s vague? Should we spend time making it more specific? Is it still coaching if we start a conversation without having a clear anchor to our work? In this episode of Talking about Coaching our hosts Yannick Jacob, Siawash Zahmat and Nicki Drab are exploring all of these questions and more and we’d love to hear your perspective too!
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Oct 22, 2020
How do I work with silence? It freaks my client out!
Silence - one of the most powerful interventions during a conversation. Yet, so many people are deeply uncomfortable when nobody’s talking. Many coaches, especially when they’re starting out, are overly concerned with providing value or not to make the client feel uncomfortable, that they often fill silences quickly during a coaching session. Sometimes it’s best to speak, sometimes it’s best to hold an uncomfortable silence. What do coaches need to know about how to use silences in their practice? How might we contract for it? When are they not useful? And is it still coaching if we were to spend the majority of our time not talking? This and more we discuss in today’s episode. We hope you find value in it.
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Oct 15, 2020
How do you prepare for a coaching session?
Imola asked us how we prepare for a coaching session, so in this episode we each share a few things we do ahead of seeing a coaching client that help us prepare for our sessions. We’d love to hear what you’re doing to prep for your sessions and coaching clients.
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Oct 8, 2020
How do I make sure my coaching client is a good fit?
Coaching stands and falls with the quality of the relationship between coach and client. And then there are hundreds of different coaching approaches and millions of different coaches and coachees. How do you make sure your client is a good fit? How can you tell that the service you have to offer will be a good match for your client’s wants and needs? In this episode our resident coaches Yannick Jacob, Nicki Drab and Siwash Zahmat discuss how you can make sure that you’re working with the right kind of client.
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Oct 1, 2020
How do you set your coaching fees?
Assunta asked us the question that many new coaches have on their mind. It can be difficult to ascertain how much to charge for their coaching services. Some coaches jump in with high ticket fees, others coach for free until they find the confidence to charge for sessions. Following up from Episode 5, in this episode Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss the most important factors that play into setting your prices and suggest practical ways that will help you decide how much to charge your clients for coaching.
For more talk about fees check out Episode 5 (How much should I charge for coaching?) and Episode 7 (Is any coach worth $5000?)
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Sep 9, 2020
Am I giving too much value during my coaching consultations?
Kelly asked us whether it may not be advisable to provide too much value during her consultations as she had a few clients who ended up getting what they need from the first session and then didn’t sign up for the actual coaching. In this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Yannick Jacob, Siwash Zahmat and Nicki Drab discuss what plays into this, how we might navigate a situation in which the client gets so much value they consider not signing up for a coaching package or further sessions and how we might use this as an opportunity.
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Sep 9, 2020
How do I make best use of accountability in coaching?
Accountability is a powerful motivational force. Feeling accountable to someone is a major driver of behaviour for many people. We said we will do it, so we want to keep our word, not embarrass ourselves, preserve our integrity or whatever else is driving us towards the result. Most people work well with deadlines. Sometimes it is enough for a client to have the next session booked in to feel accountable. But there is a lto more we can do as a coach to harvest the power of accountability in our coaching. However, there are also downsides around key issues such as dependency, responsibility or or how it may affect the coach-client relationship, so we need to tread carefully when using accountability in our coaching. In today’s episode we’ll be talking about the benefits and pitfalls of working with accountability as a coach.
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Jul 9, 2020
How do I deal with last-minute cancellations or no-shows?
You’re sitting there, all ready to coach, but your client isn’t turning up. Or you’ve prepared for your coaching session and blocked the time in your calendar, perhaps even said "no" to other clients or friends, but then your client cancels at short notice. How do you deal with this kind of scenario? We’re here to shed some light on what’s important to consider when this happens to you and offer some practical suggestions in how to deal with these situations.
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Jun 25, 2020
Do I need a niche?
One of the most frequently asked questions of coaches who are just starting out is whether they need a very specific niche in order to be successful at signing up new clients. Some coaches will argue that it’s best to niche as narrow as you can, so that your clients know you’re speaking directly to them. Others will tell you that they are simply “life coaches” and they work with anyone on anything and operate successfully. And then there’s anything in between. So it’s a confusing subject and today we’re trying to shed some light on it, talk about the various ways in which we might niche and discuss the question of whether we need a niche at all when running a coaching business.
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Jun 11, 2020
Do you take notes during your sessions?
Some coaches take copious notes during their coaching sessions. Others never write anything down. Many write reflections after their coaching sessions to keep track of actions, achievements or specific contexts that they then review before the next meeting. In this episode we discuss note taking and how it can aid or hinder the coaching process and relationship.
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May 28, 2020
What’s the best coaching package?
Some coaches work session by session on a pay-as-you-go basis. Most coaches, however, work with their clients as part of a series of sessions packaged together and sold as a unit. Some call it their coaching programme, coaching offer, coaching journey or coaching package. The question we are discussing in this episode is how to best package your coaching sessions and whether that’s a good idea to start with as well as how you would know how many sessions a client needs to get what they want from the coaching.
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Apr 30, 2020
Coronavirus Special - How can coaches navigate the COVID-19 pandemic? (Part 2)
The current coronavirus pandemic has shook most of us. Some coaches are busier than ever as they help clients make sense of what’s happening and transition into a new way of life or business. Others struggle severely to keep their businesses and psychological wellbeing afloat.
Over the past few weeks we’ve talked to a lot of coaches about what we can do to help our communities, how we can serve our clients in this time of need, tips and techniques for our businesses and a whole range of other topics to help coaches and clients navigate this crisis.
Join us for a special edition of Talking about Coaching in 3 parts. If you have anything to contribute please don’t hesitate to make your voice heard. And if you’ve got any follow up questions, we’re open to another special.
All our best wishes for you and your clients!
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Apr 30, 2020
Coronavirus Special - How can coaches navigate the COVID-19 pandemic? (Part 1)
The current coronavirus pandemic has shook most of us. Some coaches are busier than ever as they help clients make sense of what’s happening and transition into a new way of life or business. Others struggle severely to keep their businesses and psychological wellbeing afloat.
Over the past few weeks we’ve talked to a lot of coaches about what we can do to help our communities, how we can serve our clients in this time of need, tips and techniques for our businesses and a whole range of other topics to help coaches and clients navigate this crisis.
Join us for a special edition of Talking about Coaching in 3 parts. If you have anything to contribute please don’t hesitate to make your voice heard. And if you’ve got any follow up questions, we’re open to another special.
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Apr 30, 2020
Coronavirus Special - How can coaches navigate the COVID-19 pandemic? (Part 3)
The current coronavirus pandemic has shook most of us. Some coaches are busier than ever as they help clients make sense of what’s happening and transition into a new way of life or business. Others struggle severely to keep their businesses and psychological wellbeing afloat.
Over the past few weeks we’ve talked to a lot of coaches about what we can do to help our communities, how we can serve our clients in this time of need, tips and techniques for our businesses and a whole range of other topics to help coaches and clients navigate this crisis.
Join us for a special edition of Talking about Coaching in 3 parts. If you have anything to contribute please don’t hesitate to make your voice heard. And if you’ve got any follow up questions, we’re open to another special.
All our best wishes for you and your clients!
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Feb 20, 2020
My client talks like a waterfall. How can I coach them?
An interesting challenge we come across in our work as coaches is when our client talks so much we barely get a word in. How can we coach them to keep them focused and on track without (rudely?) interrupting them or missing out on important information?
In this episode our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki talk about ways in which we can contract to interrupt, how important it is to frame our coaching space and agree on how we work with out clients and how we can respectfully get a foot in the door of our clients' growth.
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Feb 6, 2020
Is it better to coach clients in person than online or on the phone?
Trainee coaches often ask: "Is it better to see coaching clients face-to-face as compared to video calls like Zoom or Skype or telephone coaching?".
Even experienced coaches have, in my experience, often not really reflected on how and why they work the way they do. It just so happened that they do most of their coaching the way they do and it's worth zooming in on this interesting topic.
Truth is all formats have their pros and cons and in today's episode we're discussing what some of these are. What are your preferences?
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Jan 23, 2020
I think my coaching client might need therapy. What do I do?
You may have been in this scenario before: A client approaches you for coaching but along the way you get the feeling that they might be in need of a therapist. Maybe there's a past trauma, they want to delve deeper than you feel comfortable or perhaps you're at your wit's end and feel they need a different sort of intervention. How far can you go? Where's the line? How can we know? What to say? And who makes the rules anyway?
In this episode our resident coaches Siawash, Nicki and Yannick discuss the topic of coaching vs. therapy.
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Jan 9, 2020
Is any coach worth $5000 per session?
Some coaches charge tremendous amounts for a single session. We've heard various different versions of the above question over the years and wanted to address how in some instances this is justified while in others you're probably being scammed.
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Jan 9, 2020
How should I dress as a coach?
In this episode Nicki, Siawash and Yannick are discussing what to wear as a coach and whether there are any rules or guidelines. We tell some entertaining anecdotes and talk about why it does and doesn't matter what you wear as a life or buiness coach.
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Dec 12, 2019
How much should you charge?
In this episode we're talking about a question we hear often from coaches who are starting out: How much should I charge for my coaching services? This is a complex question and there are many answers. We hope to provide some interesting angles on the question that can help you figure out the right amount and different pays to charge for your coaching.
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Nov 28, 2019
Do you give your clients homework?
In this episode we're discussing whether it's helpful to assign clients homework, growth actions or other exercises to do between sessions as to help them grow.
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Nov 7, 2019
Is it important to be qualified, certified and accredited?
In this episode we share our views on whether it's important to get a coaching qualification and whether it's necessary to be certified and accredited in order to be a good life or business coach. We come across this question often when talk about coaching with other coaches. It's also a topic that comes up often for coaches in supervision. Opinions vary considerably so we wanted to discuss it. Let us know what you think! Support the show
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Nov 7, 2019
How do I deal with a coaching client who comes to the session with no agenda?
In this episode we consider some different approaches for coaching a client who comes to their first coaching session with no agenda, no goal and perhaps no real hunger to work on themselves.
Especially when you're starting out as a coach and your fees are relatively low or perhaps you coach pro bono as part of your training, this is a common issue for life coaches.
Coaches in organisations also face this issue often as the client in the room is not paying for the service and so they can be less committed to the process.
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Nov 7, 2019
How do I get more coaching clients?
This is probably the most asked question by coaches, certainly the one we see most often on forums, groups and when we coach other coaches who are trying to build their businesses. How do we get to help more people? How can we create conversations with prospects so that we get to work with them? How can we sign up enough clients so that we can live off of our coaching skills?
The answer is complex and there's no one right way to do this. In this episode we start the conversation by opening up some ideas on how this could be done. Rest assured this question will come back often.
Here's a helpful chapter from Yannick's book on how to get more clients. Completely free and direct download, no sign up necessary: http://www.coachingandmediation.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Yannick-Jacob-Establishing-an-existential-coaching-practice-Routledge-2018-Review-Copy.pdf
Hope it helps!
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Nov 7, 2019
Introducing "Talking about Coaching" - The podcast for coaches by coaches
Here we are, talking about coaching.
We, that is Yannick Jacob, Positive Existential Coach, Supervisor and former Programme Leader of the MSc Coaching Psychology at the University of East London; Siawash Zahmat, 6-figure High Performance Coach and founder of the Muslim Coaching Academy, Nicki Drab, recently qualified life coach, professional photographer and representing all coaches new to the field.
In this episode we're introducing why we're doing this and who we are. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/talkingaboutcoaching)
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