Michael and Kristel speak with author and psychologist Melanie Joy about Speciesism and Carnism. Melanie walks us through how animals of different species are treated differently, and how that doesn't make sense in a holistic world and the psychology involved in what we eat. She has several books; Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs and Wear Cows as well as Beyond Beliefs: A Guide to Improving Relationships and Communication for Vegans, Vegetarians, and Meat Eaters. We are so grateful for the insights she shared into the culture surrounding veganism and carnism and what we can do to change it.
How Melanie's vegan journey started 2:51
Carnism: an overarching belief system 7:37
The results of carnism 16:35
How to break away from carnism 20:25
The changes that bring Melanie hope 33:04
"Also, I encourage people to think of themselves as vegan allies, right? It is not black and white. ... You can be a non-vegan, you can be as vegan as possible and still be what I call a vegan ally." 21:14