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In this podcast episode, you're going to get an amazing conversation with a Director of the People and Experienced team over at VaynerMedia, not to mention someone who's helped that company grow from a few dozen employees to over 900 employees in just 9 years. While VaynerMedia is not the only company with that kind of growth, it is one of the few to do so while still keeping its culture and the company's "soul" in-tact and thriving.

We'll dive into how they managed to go through massive growth as a company while maintaining a great culture, as well as how Shirlee's unconventional career path can actually serve as a model and a great example if you feel like you're not exactly on the career path you want to be, or if you're second-guessing the path you've chosen.