Becoming Better or Going Deeper? How Real Change Happens (Dane Ortlund)
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In this episode, Dane Ortlund discusses why we, as children of God, can remain hopeful—even when our journey toward Christlikeness is painfully slow, and encourages us to wake up every morning confident in God’s love and grace.

Dane Ortlund is the author of Deeper: Real Change for Real Sinners.

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