For some people, "facing the fire" isn't just a slick corporate metaphor - it's a real life part of their daily work. Jason Brezler knows this experience intimately, not only from his current role as FDNY Lieutenant in the 1st Division of New York City, but also as an officer in the U.S. Marines leading combat operations in Fallujah, Iraq, and Afghanistan. He's joined here by Jonathan Fader, a psychologist who drew on his years of experience with pro sports teams in New York - the Mets (MLB) and the Giants (NFL) - to help shape the FDNY's approach to mental performance. We talk about how the work started with some of the toughest performers in one of the toughest cities in the world - in a conversation so good we split it over two episodes! - and simple ways they learned to make it stick when the pressure was at its highest.