Language of God
Language of God
Oct 29, 2020
61. Alister McGrath | Doorway to Wonder
44 min

Alister McGrath joins Jim Stump to talk about his book Born to Wonder. McGrath describes his early conversion to Christianity as feeling like he walked through a doorway—his new found faith gave him a fresh perspective when looking at the world. But instead of being content with standing just inside the doorway, he found that there was a whole world worth exploring. After many decades of deep exploration he has come away with a higher tolerance for uncertainty, even in the midst of all the knowledge and wisdom he has found.

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Renovaré Podcast with Nathan Foster
Renovaré Podcast with Nathan Foster
Roger Fredrikson (w/ Dallas Willard + Richard Foster) — Beyond Sin Management
Richard Foster: [00:02:52] Renovare and what we do is not about personalities. And that's one of the reasons that we always work as a team, because then the various gifts of the people of God can come forward and we can live and move in that and be strengthened by it. Of course, the life in the kingdom must always be enfleshed. And that does take people. And we're so thankful for the various ones that teach me and teach you and help us all. Roger Fredrickson is one of those kinds of persons. When I first was considering a move to Wichita, Kansas to teach at a university there. I mean, I thought Wichita, Kansas was the end of the earth. And, it's not, I want you to understand that. So we're lovely place. It is not the end of the earth, though you can see it from there. And, very wisely the college president when Carolyn and I went there to just be together and think about this idea. He invited Roger and Ruth Fredrickson to meet with us and have dinner. I'll tell you that president knew exactly what he was doing. I immediately fell in love with those two people. They just had the ability to kind of put their arms around the city in the world and people and everything. It was a great blessing. Roger had come to that city of Wichita to pastor a church that had really been broken. There'd been a church split. You understand about those things? I bet. And a great human, which facility downtown, probably seat a few thousand and there was just a couple hundred folk left. After many people had left and built a very big facility. And I watched Roger take that church. He wrote a book about it, called _The Church That Refused to Die_. And I watched that. And then whenever I could, I would just try to slip in. I remember once coming, Roger doesn't even know this. I came to their new year's Eve service. Just sat there, just cause I wanted to soak in that life. Just the life of God. And Roger's the only person who has ever been able to get me onto a committee. You do know that Bible verse...God so loved the world that he did not form a committee. But Roger got me on a steering committee to bring Leighton Ford for a campaign in the city. I just watched how he threw his arms around the city. We'd meet in Hispanic churches. We meet in all kinds of places and our steering committee and how the love begin to flow. And then the last service. And then after that service, we went over to the church that had split away from Roger's church and the hostility was such they wouldn't allow each other to go to the other church building, even just walk in the building. And, uh,= I just stood there amazed as we shared thanked each other. And then Roger stood up and said, you know, you all know what's going on between our two churches. And then he turned to wonderful pastor that other church. And he said, I believe it's time to bury the hatchet. And he walked over and hugged that man. And I thought the kingdom of God has come near. See, and that's Roger Fredrikson, he's speaking to us this morning and I know he will point us to life in the kingdom of God and what that means. Roger come bless you. Roger Fredrikson: [00:06:36] I had a friend who sometime ago gave me a statement that flies in the face of what Richard said. It deals with a dilemma that we often get in once in a while get into the church. I was walking in San Francisco along the golden gate bridge. When a man I saw a man about to jump off. I tried to dissuade him from committing suicide and told him simply that God loved him. A tear came to his eye. I then asked him, are you a Christian or a Jew or a Hindu or what? He said, I'm a Christian. I said, me too, small world... protestant or Catholic. He said, Protestant. I said, me too, what denomination? He said Northern Baptist. I said, well, me too. That's amazing. Northern conservative Baptist, or Northern liberal Baptist? He said Northern conservative Baptist. I said, I don't believe it. Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist or Northern conservative reform Baptist? He said Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist. I said remarkable, Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist, great lakes region or Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist Eastern region. He said Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist, great lakes region. I said a miracle Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist, great lakes region of 1879 or Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist. Great lakes region of 1912. He said Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist. Great lakes region of 1912. I said, die heretic and I pushed him off Now in the face of this. Let me just say before the session began, we either laugh or cry about that. Don't we. I met the pastor of the Metropolitan Baptist church again, who serves the church now in Texas, Phil Lineberger. Where are you? Come down here, please. Just for a minute. Will you, as Richard has indicated, one of the great spiritual experiences of my life was when Metropolitan Baptist. And I want to say this in deep love, a great Southern Baptist church. And our tattered First Baptist church, American Baptist gathered for worship, which Richard, each other. (Banter) I want to say this man had the courage to go to a board of deacon. Some of whom said we don't want to go into a church building that was stolen from us. And our people said we don't want to drag out old dead bones again. And somehow we said to them, we pray each Sunday, forgive us our debts. As we forgive our debtors, we cannot do that and live this uptight way we're living. And out of a came a reconciliation service. Phil, I've carried you in my heart ever since. In fact, in my study, I've got the picture of the two. It was greeting one another, and I want to bless you and thank God for you. I really think in a way, that's my speech. I'm going to be very, very personal with you at the outset. Not because I want your pity just to state a fact. Two-and-a-half years ago.... I was diagnosed with leukemia and I want to say that by love and prayers, a marvelous oncologist and sophisticated medication I'm doing very well. Ruth. And I greet each day with joy and wonder and gratitude. Now resources come in at a time like this, because I went through several days of the dark night of the soul, Saint John of the cross said. But in the midst of it, there were assurances and prayers and love. And finally a profound new sense of the presence of God. The Renovare office shipped me--it was a great package--the third chapter of the divine conspiracy, which deals with what Jesus knew, our God-bathed world. I sat down one night and started to read that I was so entranced and overcome. I at times wanted to shout. I wanted to weep because there came to me after all these years of preaching about the kingdom-- intellectually understanding the kingdom and I having intimations of the kingdom--there came to me a great new awareness of the wonder and the intimacy of the presence of God's kingdom in which I have rejoiced. And in many ways, grown in these last years. Strange and amazing things happen. I was driving back from the hospital in a park that we call McKennan park. A boy was coming home from school. It's a simple thing. He had a knapsack over his back. He had a lunch bucket in his hand and he was just dancing. And I just stopped. And almost with tears of joy, watch that boy dance with freedom. And I thought about Jesus' incredible statement, unless you become as a little child, you'll in no wise enter the kingdom of heaven. And I said, Lord, I thank you that I see the kingdom all about me. And since then, in all kinds of interesting, amazing unexpected places I have seen and experienced that kingdom for which I thank God. The sad thing and the things I want to say briefly here, girl, out of a love and a passion for the mandate, say it, the mainline church and the institutional church to which, and I, and I recognize we come from many different backgrounds here, but that…
47 min
Bible Thinker
Bible Thinker
Mike Winger
20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 12)
My video on why I think the death penalty is biblical. Please hear me out and if you disagree share why in the comments. 0:00 Introduction 1. 0:04 Is there a conflict between being pro-life and pro-death penalty at the same time? 2. 3:54 Can you address what John means when he says that certain sins lead to death and some do not (1 John 5: 16-17)? Is there evidence in this passage that suggests you can lose your salvation? 3. 7:37 When, in the research process, do you (1) know you have read enough secondary literature to comment on the topic and (2) become confident enough to share your conclusion with thousands of people? 4. 12:40 Are there any verses in the Bible where it clearly states or implies that rights (life, liberty, and property) are inalienable and inherently possessed, as opposed to being dependent on self-ownership? 5. 19:03 God answered Hagar directly. Both her and many others before and after Christ. Do you think God sometimes uses the still small voice today, or only directly through the Scriptures? (Hebrews 1:2) 6. 24:53 Do you think that macro evolution is consistent with Scripture, since evolution works by death? As sin entered the world through Adam and through sin entered death (Rom 5: 12, Rom 8: 21-22). 7. 29:06 In 1 Corinthians 14: 22, Paul says tongues are a sign for non-believers and prophecy is a sign for believers. The next verses seem to flip it though. I can't make sense of it but I wondered your take on it. 8. 32:50 My parents think religion is stupid and I don't want to evangelize to them because they'll judge me and say that I'm stupid. Is that ok, or should I try anyway? If so, how? 9. 35:47 How would you understand the numbers in Revelation 7: 4? What does it mean by "144,000 were sealed"? Does it mean only 144,000 are faithful Christians? 10. 41:11 In 2 Peter 2:6, is the example of Sodom & Gomorrah literal? Does it mean that on the final day of judgment the ungodly will literally be condemned to extinction like they were? 11. 43:58 Is the Athanasian Creed biblical (specifically the first part which seems to imply that one cannot be saved without believing the doctrine of the Trinity)? 12. 45:53 Is it biblical to say that all temptation comes from Satan and the demonic? Or can temptation also come from your sinful self? 13. 50:23 Is there biblical support for having monarchies today? What attitude should we have toward monarchy, specifically? 14. 52:48 What is your view on the Creation account given in Genesis? Some people hold to a young earth, but with modern science, that seems unlikely. Questions then arise such as: did Adam and Eve exist? 15. 59:22 Were Old Testament believers born-again? Could they be called (during their lives) "children of God" as Christians can be called nowadays? 16. 1:02:06 Are nerdy hobbies (comics, movies, games, etc.) reconcilable with Christianity? Or should we discard them and use our time in other ways? 17. 1:04:21 My pastor teaches that we are "little Gods" from the word of faith movement. I have disagreed with him in private conversation about this and he is firm in his belief. How important is this issue to salvation? 18. 1:05:43 How does Israel in the Bible correlate to the present day political state of Israel? Are the promises for Israel meant for Israel today? 19. 1:07:39 Is there a difference between the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven? If yes, can you explain it for me? 20. 1:09:04 What do you think of “dual covenant theology” (the belief that Jews can be saved without believing in Jesus due to their special covenant with God)? Every Friday at 1pm PT Here’s how you get your questions answered in the Q&A 1) Please reread your question before you ask to ensure that it will make sense to me. Clarity is paramount. 2) Wait till we go live before asking. We don’t take questions until then. 3) Put a “Q” at the beginning of your question. 4) Please only ask once, our mods are checking the chat continually. 5) I’m truly sorry if I’m unable to get to your question. I know its a bummer, but I am doing my best. 6) If you arrive late we may have already gathered 20 questions. Please check the live chat to see if we are full on Qs. Thanks! My website
1 hr 16 min
Soteriology 101: Former Calvinistic Professor discusses Doctrines of Salvation
Soteriology 101: Former Calvinistic Professor discusses Doctrines of Salvation
Leighton Flowers : Professor of Theology, Director of Youth Evangelism for
Potter/Clay Analogy De-Calvinized
Dr Flowers walks through all the scriptures referencing the Potter/Clay analogy to demonstrate the error of the Calvinistic interpretation in Romans 9. To SUPPORT this broadcast please click here: DOWNLOAD OUR APP: LINK FOR ANDROIDS: LINK FOR APPLE: Go to for all your software developing needs! Show them some love for their support of Soteriology101!!! To ORDER Dr Flowers Curriculum “Tiptoeing Through Tulip” please click here: To listen to the audio-only be sure to subscribe on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play or one of the other podcast players found here: For more about Traditionalism (or Provisionism) please visit Dr Flowers’ book, “The Potter’s Promise” can be found here: Dr Flowers’ book, “God’s Provision for All” can be found here: To engage with other believers cordially join our Facebook group: For updates and news follow us at: www.facebook/Soteriology101 Or @soteriology101 on Twitter Please SHARE on Facebook and Twitter and help spread the word! To learn more about other ministries and teachings from Dr Flowers go here: To become a Patreon supporter or make a one-time donation:
45 min
Quick to Listen
Quick to Listen
Christianity Today
Spiritual Formation as COVID-19 Gets More Depressing
We’re right on the cusp of the holiday season. Except this year it doesn’t feel much like it. Each day this month, thousands of American—record numbers—have tested positive for COVID-19. Even as several vaccines are now on the horizon, many public health authorities have asked Americans to not reunite with extended family over Thanksgiving, requests that will no doubt continue during the Christmas season.  Millions of people have already spent hours more this year inside, apart from their loved ones, houses of worship, and beloved activities. While the summer offered many a respite from their homes, the arrival of cold weather will likely keep people there. This bleakness, of course, comes on the heels of a year of postponed weddings, never organized baby showers, and drive-by birthday parties. And, of course, one of the year’s most agonizing elements has been the disparity with which community and individuals have adopted and practiced social distancing and mask-wearing. These relationship tensions have had both personal and societal polarizing effect.  This week on Quick to Listen, we discussed the reality between the joyous expectations of the holidays—and the darkness we’re all feeling this year with Chris Hall, the president of Renovare, the spiritual formation organization started by Richard Foster. Hall is also associate editor of the Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture and has written a great four volume series of books on what we can learn from the early church, and was one of CT’s theology editors and advisers. He joined global media manager Morgan Lee and editorial director Ted Olsen to talk about growing in your relationship with God and practicing spiritual disciplines during a pandemic.   What is Quick to Listen? Read more Rate Quick to Listen on Apple Podcasts Follow the podcast on Twitter Follow our hosts on Twitter: Morgan Lee and Ted Olsen Learn more about Renovaré Music by Sweeps Quick to Listen is produced by Morgan Lee and Matt Linder The transcript is edited by Bunmi Ishola Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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