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Tune in to ‘Vocational Voices’, the official podcast of the National Centre for Vocational Education Research, to hear leading experts discuss current trends in vocational education and training (VET).
May 27, 2020
VET’s response to Industry 4.0 and the digital economy: what works
Digital skills are now essential for almost all occupations and workers in Australia. So how do we best incorporate them into VET courses? And how do we make sure our VET educators have the digital skills they need? Join Steve Davis as he talks to Suzi Kuti, Head of Organisation Development and Learning at Metro Trains Sydney, and NCVER researchers Michelle Circelli and Bridget Wibrow about what teaching digital skills means for VET educators. They also discuss the integration of digital skills into VET delivery and why digital skills should become a key component of foundation skills. This discussion refers to two good practice guides, Incorporating digital skills into VET delivery and Teaching digital skills: implications for VET educators published by NCVER on 10 June 2020.
Apr 28, 2020
The future role of public providers
Thirty years ago, the Australian VET system was on tenterhooks as two major reports were released into the management and costs of training for enterprises against a backdrop of award restructuring that was being championed at the time by the government. How do the projections and goals in these reports compare to the reality facing TAFE today? How has TAFE embraced fee-for-service, and are there myths and assumptions surrounding the size of the fee-for-service market and its efficacy or otherwise? Steve Davis talks to NCVER Managing Director Simon Walker, Robin Shreeve, Adjunct Professor at Federation University and President AVETRA, and Craig Robertson, CEO TAFE Directors Australia about the next evolutionary stage in fee-for-service in the VET sector.
Apr 14, 2020
Skills sets: their role now and into the future
Are skill sets likely to take on extra significance as Australia responds to the shifting workforce demands and challenges, particularly in the health sector during the COVID-19 pandemic? ? Looking ahead, can skill sets or micro-credentials play a role in getting vital competencies into the workplace so the economy can rebuild? To find out, Steve Davis talks to NCVER Managing Director Simon Walker and Director Employment, Education & Training at the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Jenny Lambert. They start by defining what skill sets and micro-credentials actually are and the role they currently play in the VET system.
Feb 24, 2020
Online VET: a good course of action?
Online learning can be just as effective as face-to-face instruction if it’s done well. But what makes for good quality and good practice? While subject withdrawal rates are higher and course completion rates lower for VET courses delivered entirely online, new research has shown that the outcomes for those students who do complete online courses are similar to those of other delivery modes. Steve Davis talks to NCVER Managing Director Simon Walker and NCVER Senior Researcher Dr Tabatha Griffin about how online VET courses are being delivered, the outcomes for those who do complete them, and why students may withdraw or not complete online courses.
Nov 12, 2019
Qualification design for the future of VET
Qualifications are an essential part of the VET system, and therefore a key consideration in the broader approach to VET sector reform. Join special guest Peter Noonan, Professor of Tertiary Education at Victoria University and Expert Panel Chair of the recent AQF Review, as he talks with Steve Davis and Simon Walker, Managing Director NCVER about the recently released Review of the Australian Qualifications Framework Final Report 2019. Discussion focuses on micro-credentials, identifying general capabilities, the Pathways Policy, and the proposed new qualification types or classification of VET qualifications.
Oct 22, 2019
Youth pathways: from school to work and everything between
New research has revealed how young people’s post-school pathways are diverse, individualised and complex. Steve Davis, Simon Walker Managing Director NCVER, and William Stubley CEO & Co-founder Year13, discuss if the reliance on ATAR, the Australian Tertiary Admission Rank, as our lens for evaluating educational achievements is too narrowly focused, and if so, what are some of the options for broadening our approach to understanding post-school pathways?
Oct 7, 2019
Training packages: meeting student needs?
Competency based training (CBT) is the model of curriculum at the heart of the VET system and for some it’s a shorthand way of referring to the system of VET training packages, but critics are arguing that the VET sector’s reliance upon training packages is failing to meet the real-world needs of students and industry due to how they define and therefore teach competency. Steve Davis discusses this topic with NCVER Managing Director Simon Walker and TAFE Directors Australia CEO Craig Robertson.
Aug 26, 2019
Unaccredited training and why employers use it
Why do around half of Australian employers look outside the nationally accredited VET system to provide their employees with training? To find out, Steve Davis talks to NCVER Managing Director Simon Walker and NCVER researcher Ian White, who discuss the reasons why employers choose unaccredited over accredited training, and whether it meets their skills needs.
Aug 12, 2019
The student journey: skilling for life
Steve Davis interviews a collection of presenters from the 28th National VET Research Conference ‘No Frills’, held on 10-12 July 2019 in Adelaide (80 mins) While every student's journey is different, more and more research and discussion underlines the importance of workers becoming lifelong learners so they can grow and evolve with their jobs. And more than ever before, Australia relies on the VET sector to play a critical role in making this happen. Hear from a variety of VET experts about their ideas and research as they discuss how Australia can tackle the many challenges of the changing world of work.TopicPresenterStart time Employability skills in entry level roles in STEM-rich and care/support industries Kate Perkins, ACER01.41 Life skills for a digital future Mori Hajizadeh & Kevin O’Leary, Australian Industry Standards13:00 Student outcomes in aged care and cookeryMelinda Brown, Skills IQ27:57 When is a worker truly competent? Training and assessmentMichael Hartman, Skills Impact38:21 RPL: difficulties & mitigating strategiesDeb Carr, Think About Learning & Helen Smith52:09 How can educators better support students with psychological-based individual differences?Cameron Williams, Black Dog Institute01:03:38 Student choice in a contestable market Don Zoellner, Charles Darwin University 01:13:43 To view the full conference program and abstracts, please visit Past events on the NCVER Portal.
1 hr 21 min
Jul 29, 2019
Apprenticeship rates - should you believe the hype?
It is hard to dispute that the apprenticeships model, which combines employment with formal training in a trade, is an effective way of developing skills while still earning a wage. So why do apprenticeship numbers appear to be so dire? To find out, Steve Davis talks to NCVER Managing Director, Simon Walker and National Australian Apprenticeships Association Chief Executive Officer, Ben Bardon, who reveal that the situation is more nuanced than recent media headlines might suggest. They start by discussing the difference between apprenticeships and traineeships, which can skew the perceived decline.
Jul 15, 2019
Industry 4.0 - what does it mean for jobs and skills?
How will Industry 4.0, or the Fourth Industrial Revolution as it’s also known, affect the jobs we do and how we train for them? To find out, Steve Davis talks to NCVER Managing Director, Simon Walker and AiGroup Head of Workforce Development, Megan Lilly. The challenge, they say, is to develop an agile skill base that can continually learn and grow, which means traditional education systems will also need to evolve.
Jul 15, 2019
What next for tertiary education? Some preliminary sketches
In this interview, Steve Davis talks with author Francesca Beddie about her paper, What next for tertiary education? Some preliminary sketches, which presents the culmination of the ideas discussed between prominent tertiary education thinkers who came together to reflect on the Committee on the Future of Tertiary Education report (the Martin report). These ideas are intended to generate discussion on the possibilities for the future of tertiary education in Australia. She emphasises the importance of going beyond the funding debate, to talking more broadly about how we should be educating our citizens in the 21st century. Original broadcast date: 25 August 2014
Jul 15, 2019
Industry currency and professional obsolescence: what can industry tell us?
In this interview, Steve Davis talks with researcher, Berwyn Clayton, about the report Industry currency and professional obsolescence: what can industry tell us?. The purpose of the study is to take an industry focused approach to investigating the issues of professional obsolescence and industry currency and how they apply to VET practitioners. Issues covered included, the importance of industry currency for practitioners training and assessing in the VET sector; strategies used by employers to keep trades people current with new technology and changing ways of working in various industry sectors; and strategies used by leading edge organisations to keep people up to speed with new knowledge and skills. Original broadcast date: 21 June 2013
Jul 15, 2019
The impact of schools on young people's transition to university
In this interview, Steve Davis talks with former NCVER Managing Director, Tom Karmel, about his report which uses data from the 2006 cohort of the Longitudinal Surveys of Australian Youth (LSAY) to investigate how schools influence tertiary entrance rank and university enrolment over and above young people's individual background characteristics. A point of discussion was the authors' finding that schools do matter and although young people's individual characteristics are the main contributors to university entrance, the school characteristics are responsible for almost 20% of the variation in tertiary entrance rankings. Original broadcast date: 24 April 2013
Jul 15, 2019
Educating oneself out of social exclusion
In this phone interview, Hielke Buddelmeyer, talks about his report which explores the impact of education and training on social exclusion using a multidimensional measure that focuses on seven domains. Education, he says, is a 'sleeper factor' in that it operates on many different levels and has an impact on the other six domains, such as health. Hielke also points out that the current focus on human capital, including social inclusion, follows previous market reforms that have been implemented to position Australia in changing economic times. Original broadcast date: 2 November 2012
Jul 15, 2019
Shaken not stirred? The development of one tertiary education sector in Australia
In this 13 minute interview, Steve Davis talks with Leesa Wheelahan about the report Shaken not stirred? The development of one tertiary education sector in Australia. This report examines universities that offer a small amount of VET and private providers that offer both VET and higher education, building on previous research examining TAFE intitutes that offer higher education. This research suggests that mixed-sector and dual-sector providers are likely to become more important but they face specific challenges in the quality of their provision. While the sharp distinctions between VET and higher education are giving way to a more differentiated single tertiary education sector this is resulting in a more stratified and hierarchical structure as university providers become the 'comparator'. Original broadcast date: 17 January 2012
Jul 15, 2019
Attrition in the trades
In this 9 minute interview, Steve Davis talks with former NCVER Managing Director, Tom Karmel, about the report Attrition in the trades. This report investigates attrition in the trades by comparing the rate at which tradespeople leave their occupation with that of professionals. It also determines whether attrition is influenced by economic conditions, and if a trade can provide a good start to a career in the professions. The report concludes that attrition in the trades is no higher than in the professions; the rate of leaving particular occupations may vary, but overall the results between the two are very similar. The economic climate also makes little difference to the attrition rate. Original broadcast date: 18 November 2011
Jul 15, 2019
Outcomes from combining work and tertiary study
In this interview, Steve Davis talks with researcher Cain Polidano about the report Outcomes from combining work and tertiary study. This study investigates the motivations for and the education and employment outcomes from working while studying for both VET and higher education students. While, in general, tertiary students who work while studying are less likely to complete than those who do not, being employed in the final year of study significantly improves the chances of finding full time employment in the first year following study. Original broadcast date: 2 June 2011
Jul 15, 2019
Developing the child care workforce: understanding 'fight' or 'flight' amongst workers
In this interview, Steve Davis talks with researcher Tanya Bretherton about her report Developing the child care workforce: understanding 'fight' or 'flight' amongst workers. The early childhood education and care sector in Australia has long been characterised by low-skill/low-pay jobs. The current policy environment, however, may offer scope for the sector to move towards a path of skill growth. This report, based on case studies of four early childhood education and care providers, investigates how innovative employers are overcoming challenges in the sector to improve workforce development. Original broadcast date: 29 July 2010
Jul 15, 2019
The role of vocational education and training in the labour market outcomes of people with disabilities
In this interview, Steve Davis talks with researcher Cain Polidano about his report on the role of vocational education and training in the labour market outcomes of people with disabilities. Low levels of education generally among people with a disability is one of the factors contributing to their lower rate of labour market participation. What role vocational education and training (VET) plays in ameliorating this is the focus of this report. Using data from the Household, Income and Labour Dynamics of Australia surveys, the report finds that for people who are not working, completing a VET qualification does increase the chance of employment and more so for people with a disability. Original broadcast date: 23 March 2010
Jul 15, 2019
Apprenticeships and traineeships in the downturn
In this interview, Steve Davis talks with former NCVER Managing Director, Tom Karmel, about his report Apprenticeships and traineeships in the downturn. The essence of the apprenticeship is the contract of training - a legal contract between an individual, an employer and a training provider. The defining characteristic is the combination of employment and training. The purpose of this paper is to describe what we know about apprenticeships and traineeships, with a view to assessing the likely impact of the current economic downturn on them. Original broadcast date: 17 November 2009
Jul 15, 2019
Cultural dimensions of Indigenous participation in education and training
In this interview, Steve Davis talks with researcher Michael Dockery about his report, Cultural dimensions of Indigenous participation in education and training. This study provides an important innovation to the existing literature by explicitly attempting to measure 'cultural attachment' and its relationship with post-compulsory education and training. Original broadcast date: 4 November 2009
Jun 20, 2019
Is VET vocational?
In this interview Steve Davis talks with former NCVER Managing Director, Tom Karmel, about his report Is VET vocational?, which explores the issue of how vocational education and training (VET) is actually used in the labour market and in particular the match between what graduates study and the jobs they get. Original broadcast date: 29 July 2008