Dec 3, 2020
28: Resurrection of Jordan Peterson (w/Jeff Brown)
Play • 1 hr 53 min

This week we inaugurate “The Conspirituality Ticker,” a weekly bullet-point rundown on the ongoing pandemic of influencers who spread medical misinformation to sell disaster spirituality. We’ll also continue with “The Jab”, our segment on conspirituality-driven vaccine hesitancy.

The big news this week is the resurrection of Jordan Peterson. After surviving a medically-induced coma in a Russian rehab facility, and then COVID on top of that, Peterson has re-emerged, weakened but resolute, as both hero and provocateur. The announcement from Penguin Canada that his new book of another dozen self-help rules prompted Penguin employees to protest their involvement in an emotional town hall.

In this episode, we’ll dive into Peterson’s imaginarium. We won’t totally discount his button-down commonsensical advice, but we will explore how it has lent intellectual support to the alt-right. Is he a conspiritualist pioneer as he wars against the Neo-Marxist Cabal and dreams of a Jungian promised land? Matthew will add a view from Peterson’s hometown of Toronto, where the messianic prof has been open about his ambitions in right-wing Ontario politics. Julian interviews dissociation debunker Jeff Brown, who champions “enrealment,” and has a heartfelt critique of what he calls the “new cage” movement.

02:21 Conspirituality Ticker

27:22 The Jab

36:35 Jordan Peterson Reborn

1:16:18 Interview with Jeff Brown

All music by EarthRise SoundSystem (Duke Schommer + Derek Beres)

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Show Notes

JZ Knight Called for ‘Military Coup’ After Biden Took Lead in Presidential Bid

Defiant Night: Hundreds Gather at Pier Bowl for Mask-Burning Rally

Toronto public health shuts down Etobicoke restaurant for allowing indoor dining in defiance of COVID-19 measures

Adam Skelly’s GoFundMe

Skelly hauled off by the po-po

Skelly hauled off by the po-po

$15,000 Fine After Secret Hasidic Wedding Draws Thousands of Guests

Splitting 5 to 4, Supreme Court Backs Religious Challenge to Cuomo’s Virus Shutdown Order

Supremes’ opinions

Canadian Bar Association on c16, which Peterson didn’t understand

Peterson co-presents with Proud Boy founder Gavin McInnes

Peterson boosting Tanya Granic Allen. (Matthew neglected to report that Peterson raising Allen’s profile helped make her kingmaker in the ON Conservative leadership race. She threw her votes to Ford, promising Catholic support. He then rewards that support by reinstituting a sex-ed curriculum for public schools that was written before the internet.)

BBQAnon tweet from Tanya Granic Allen.

Bernard Schiff mourns his depressive and paranoid friend Jordan

Jordan Peterson’s 10-step process for stronger writing

Jordan Peterson on why you need to clean your room

Is Jordan Peterson’s carnivore diet really healthy?

Nathan Robinson on “the intellectual we deserve

A Field Guide to JP’s Political Arguments

Peterson tells Camille Paglia why one can’t control crazy women

Gender: A Wider Lens Podcast
Gender: A Wider Lens Podcast
Stella O'Malley & Sasha Ayad
6 - Gender Intervention: Treatment or Experiments?
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Anya Kaats
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Sarah Steel
Fire This Time
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Weird Studies
Phil Ford and J. F. Martel
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