In this week's episode, Sean and Mark sit down with Educational Leadership trainer and founder of GRJ Education, Gareth Johnson. Gareth talks them through the journey required to get to running their own business, resisting the call to follow the expected path and heading into the unknown with no fear. Along the way, they talk rugby, brass bands and what happens when you are called to choose between them. Find out more about GRJ Education at grj-education.com, and connect directly with Gareth https://www.linkedin.com/in/grjeducation/ (on LinkedIn here). If you enjoyed this episode, please leave feedback on iTunes, or send your feedback, comments and guest suggestions to Mark or Sean@noipodcast.show or send them to us via social media... Also - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-gallagher-94599a54 (Sean on LinkedIn) and https://www.linkedin.com/in/markversus/ (Mark on LinkedIn) https://twitter.com/noipodcast (@noipodcast // Twitter) https://instagram.com/noipodcast (@noipodcast // Instagram) See you next week. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/noipodcast/message --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/noipodcast/message