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The Third Substantive
Deon sits down with his friends to talk about their debate experiences, common mistakes at the secondary school level and the lessons they have learnt along the way.
Jun 14, 2022
20-- Suneeti Sreekumar: "Breaking was a bonus, but it was never the final objective..."
The finale of Season 2 is very much a "lost" episode-- it was supposed to be released in September of 2021, but it stayed in the vault for a good 9 months beyond that due to my other commitments. I spoke to Suneeti Sreekumar, ex-President of NJC Debate and current Oxford Law undergraduate, back in August to talk about her experiences in NJC Debate across 6 years. She talked about the challenges of keeping afloat a debate club with little access to resources, the surprises and turmoils along her journey, and what current batches of NJC-ians and other debaters can take away about how to run a debate society at the pre-university level. (P.S Many apologies to Suneeti, who had to wait many months for this episode to be released!) Also coming up-- Season 3! The first episode of the new format (a serialized conversation with two stalwarts of the SG circuit across multiple episodes) will be released in only a matter of weeks. Till then, stay tuned! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
1 hr 5 min
Jun 30, 2021
19-- Balachander Prashanthi: "We play too many board games... after training at NTU"
The outgoing President of NTU Debates, Bala, joins Deon on the podcast to talk about her time at NTU, her best memories, and how NTU has changed across 4 years. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Jun 2, 2021
18-- Ariel Lim: "Debating has been one of the biggest things to help me speak up"
Ariel Lim pops by the podcast to talk about her (as-yet-unfinished) journey in Debate! She talks to Deon about debating for over a decade, the joys she has had on the journey, and how to sustain an interest and passion in debate. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Jan 23, 2021
17-- Wisha Jamal: "When our coaches said the WSDC lineup might change, we thought they were joking..."
Wisha Jamal, an incredible debater from Yale-NUS, stops by to recount her experiences in debating, including as a member of the Pakistani WSDC team in 2017 and 2018. She talks about how it was like being thrown into the WSDC squad last minute, the difficulties of travelling to debates, and her experiences in the Singapore circuit. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Jan 2, 2021
16-- Chen Beiqi: "Treat others with kindness... you'll become a better debater"
Chen Beiqi was one of only 14 judges to judge the open semi-finals at WUDC 2019. An accomplished CA and debater, she drops by the podcast to talk about her experiences as a judge, Chinese debating and how to engage better as a whip speaker. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Nov 14, 2020
15--Tan Yao Kun: "I would count my blessings when it comes to SIM Open Trainings..."
Yao Kun, the ex-President of SIM Debate Club and a well-known Chief Adjudicator of Singapore tournaments, drops by to share his long journey to get to where he is today, as well as misconceptions around social welfare and poverty. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Oct 29, 2020
14-- Nadya Tan: "Debating is 50% about being a better speaker, and 50% about having a strong community..."
Nadya Tan is the architect behind the Lasellian Debate League, an extremely successful charity debate tournaments at the pre-tertiary level. She has retired from competitive debating, but continues to pen down her thoughts about the sport at https://amateuranalysisblog.wordpress.com/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Oct 9, 2020
13-- Farhan Musa: "Don't take life too seriously... learn how to be comfortable with yourself"
Farhan Musa is an accomplished debater, coach and CA of multiple schools' tournaments in the debate circuit. He swings by the podcast to reflect on his debating journey, his experiences with racial issues in Singapore, and how he learnt to be authentic when navigating the debate community. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
1 hr 3 min
Sep 12, 2020
12-- Joel Law: "I've taken away a lot of patience and compassion when it comes to handling people..."
Joel Law swings by to discuss his path to the DA(S) Presidency, what is next for the DA, his experiences as a coach and knowledge gaps most debaters have about the LGBTQ+ community. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Aug 31, 2020
11-- Cavan Tay: "The most important thing is to form a healthy relationship with the sport..."
The season premiere of The Third Substantive Season 2 features Cavan Tay, Secretary of the Debate Association. He talks about his unorthodox journey into the world of debating, how he worked his way through the ranks, and the lessons he has learnt from 4 years in the sport. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Jun 6, 2020
Episode 10: Daniel and Luke on Corporate Culture, the Stock Market, and Debate Retirement
The season finale features the show's first three-way conversation, as Daniel and Luke talk to Deon about how the stock market operates (and how it is different from the economy), the perils of corporate culture, and navigating the right time to retire. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
May 31, 2020
Episode 9: Vedant Sandhu on approaching Minority motions, being an ally and Novice debating
The current Debate President of NUS, Vedant, joins Deon to talk about his experience as a minority in Singapore, how to approach motions about quotas and affirmative action, privilege and being an ally, and the state of Novice debating and what needs to be done to promote debating to newcomers at the university level. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
May 24, 2020
Episode 8: Ng Ray on Insights into Psychology and Cliquing in the Debate circuit
Ray joins Deon for Episode 8 to discuss a few psychology concepts, like Operant Conditioning, the Self-Fulfilling Prophecy and the nature of trauma and attention. They then delve deep into a meta-commentary of the state of the Singapore Debate Circuit. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
May 16, 2020
Episode 7: Ariel Tan on Liberalism and Communitarianism, Judging Critiques, and Receiving Feedback
Ariel swings by the podcast to discuss law and morality, problems with arguments involving rights and self-actualization, and the tension between liberalism and communitarianism. She and Deon then talk about issues with judging, stock arguments and valuing your self-worth through debating. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
May 8, 2020
Episode 6: Loy Guan Peng on Communication Principles
To begin the second half of Season 1, Deon is joined by Guan Peng, who discusses communication principles and how they can be applied to debating, the MAWA man, government censorship, and Wikileaks. They then discuss the problem of stuttering that many young debaters face, and suggest some ways to overcome it. More episodes can be found on thirdsub.podbean.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Apr 25, 2020
Episode 5: Royston Long on Model United Nations and Oldham Cup Round 5
For the mid-season finale of The Third Substantive, Deon talks to Royston Long about his experiences as a MUNner, both from the perspective of the organizer and the participant. They then delve into several topics, including the WHO's response to COVID 19, how to read and analyse information on Wikipedia, and Fake News. The differences between MUN and Competitive Debating are also dissected. More episodes can be found at thirdsub.podbean.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Apr 18, 2020
Episode 4: Ernest Lee on Conceptions of Humanitarian Intervention and Oldham Cup Round 4
It's not every day that the podcast is visited by an Oxford University top student! Ernest Lee speaks to Deon about humanitarian intervention, assumptions that limit the scope of competitive debating, and the foundations of feminism and its relationship to militarism that underpin the Round 4 motion of Oldham Cup. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Apr 10, 2020
Episode 3: Linus Chen on the Realities of Environmental Policies (and Oldham Cup Round 3 w/ David Boo Koh)
In this episode, Linus Chen talks to Deon about the various policy proposals to protect the environment, and their strengths and limitations especially in the context of Singapore. In a wide ranging and engaging discussion, they touch on a wide variety of commonly seen strategies, like Carbon Taxation, Individual Activism and the Paris Agreement. Afterward, David and Deon attempt to discuss Round 3 of Oldham Cup, but soon hit many different speed bumps. Show notes for this episode can be found on thirdsub.podbean.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
1 hr 7 min
Apr 4, 2020
Episode 2: Ernest Sng on Pseudo-Mathematical Concepts and Oldham Cup Round 2
Ernest Sng drops by to discuss commonly used pseudo-mathematical concepts and their relevance, as well as how debaters can benefit from understanding and applying these concepts better. They discuss Round 2 of Oldham Cup (about progressive individuals and their recommended behavior in weak democracies), and reminisce on the self-indulgence of secondary school debating. Full Show Notes can be found on thirdsub.podbean.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
Mar 28, 2020
Episode 1: David Boo Koh on the Basis of Power and Oldham Cup Round 1
David Boo Koh sits down with Deon to talk about theoretical frameworks of how power is derived and executed, Marxist and Weberian conceptions of power, and symbolic violence. They discuss the Round 1 motion for Oldham Cup 2020, and explore the limitations of the current formats of debating in encouraging intellectual curiosity. Full Show Notes can be found on thirdsub.podbean.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message
1 hr 3 min
Mar 24, 2020
Episode 0: Trailer
On every episode of "The Third Substantive", Deon will interview one of his friends to discuss anything and everything under the sun. Get ready for diverse, engaging, and most importantly, frank conversations about typical arguments and strategies he's heard over many years. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/deon-kiew/message