Working with young children brings you a new perspective on life. How to be more childlike, how to find your joy, how to live life to the fullest. But does it transfer to adults who leave the sector? In this episode we catch up with Hisham, a former male educator of color (toddler educator) on why he left, what ECE taught him, and some of the transferable skills he has taken from ECE to his new field. 

Nick Terrones (he/him) is a former educator at Hilltop Children's Center and Educator Institute where he has worked with toddlers for the last 10+ years implementing Anti-Bias Curriculum. He now serves as the director of Daybreak Star Preschool at United Indians of All Tribes in Seattle, WA. He’s a Los Angeles raised Mexican-Native-American with a passion for equity, plants, the ukulele, and raising awareness to the need of a gender-balanced workforce in ECE.

Mike Browne (he/him) is the Senior Community Engagement Manager for Hilltop Children's Center and Educator Institute. He’s a New York raised, Afro-Caribbean, former collegiate athlete, working towards dismantling White Supremacy and forms of oppression in our society.

Hilltop Children's Center and Educator Institute is a reggio-inspired preschool, afterschool program, and equity-focused professional development institute in Seattle, WA, on the traditional lands of the first people of Seattle, the Duwamish People.