In this episode, John and guest host Justin of Guardians of the Children MC, take on a horrific abuser of children (and the struggles of social distance interviewing!) William Kamm. This episode is dedicated to those who have been abused at the hands of Pastors and Priests everywhere. If you or someone you know is being abused please contact us at pulpitperps@gmail.com and we will listen, help or anything else you need.