The Unforgiven West Indians with Ashley Gray
49 min

While Apartheid was still keeping South Africa from cricket, a bunch of West Indian rebels toured there in the early 80s. They are known as the Unforgiven, and that is the name of Ashley Gray’s book on them. For this episode we focus on two Jamaicans, Herbert Chang and Richard Austin. Both very talented players who ultimately took the money, and then lived dark lives afterwards.


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You can find Ashley Gray on twitter, and this is his book [The Unforgiven: Missionaries or Mercenaries? | Kindle Store] (

If you enjoyed Herbert Chang’s track, check it out here: [The Coming of Jah / Dub - Herbert Chang & King Tubby] (

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81 All Out - A Cricket Podcast
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The toxic side to the 'Australian Way': a chat with Jarrod Kimber
In this episode, we chat with journalist, blogger, author, podcaster, vlogger – or in short, the Mark Waugh of cricket coverage – Jarrod Kimber. We focus on a piece Jarrod wrote last year titled 'The Ugly Australian: the evolution of a cricket species'. He talks about his formative experiences with sledging and hyper-aggression at the club level and how his views on behavior and moral codes have changed over time. No other team treats cricket as a team sport like Australia does, says Jarrod, but they also stretch the limits of what team-mates must do. Talking Points: * The island that is Australian cricket - with moral codes and 'good bloke, bad bloke' conventions that combine into the 'Australian Way' * Club cricket in Australia in the 1980s and 1990s - when the game was sometimes a violent, contact sport * The atmosphere at Australian cricket grounds in the pre-2000s * The culture of Australian cricket that built up to Sandpapergate * The two sides to Allan Border's legendary quip to Dean Jones in the furnace of Madras in 1986: 'let's get a tough Queenslander out here' * Cameron Bancroft and the demands of young players fitting in * The ruthless punishments handed out post Sandpapergate * How David Warner would have been seen in the Australia of the 1980s * The drinking culture in Australian cricket * The vastly different culture around Australian women's cricket Participants: Jarrod Kimber (@ajarrodkimber), Patreon  Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee) Related: Reverse-swing: cricket's ball-tampering in plain sight - Jarrod Kimber, ESPNcricinfo The problem with the Australian Line of Control - Sharda Ugra, ESPNcricinfo Crossing the Line - Gideon Haigh's book post Sandpapergate Steve Smith's Men - Geoff Lemon's book post Sandpapergate Man, Manlier, Manliest - Geoff Lemon, The Cricket Monthly When a tie was a victory for Border's battlers - 81allout podcast with Michael Sexton Kumar Sangakkara welcoming Shaun Pollock to the crease in the league game of the 2003 World Cup Warwick Armstrong keeps Frank Woolley waiting - Arunabha Sengupta, Justin Langer's bail-nudging incident in Sri Lanka - YouTube video Brad Haddin dislodging the bails before the ball hit the stumps - YouTube video
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