Green IO
Gaël DUEZ
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Green IO with Gaël Duez explores how to reduce the environmental impact of our digital world. Guests from across the globe share insights, tools, and alternative approaches, enabling all responsible technologists, within the Tech sector and beyond, to build a greener digital world, one byte at a time.
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#24 - IT Sustainability in SaaS companies with Niklas Sundberg and Tereze Gaile
How do you decarbonize your operations when most of the action takes part outside of your organization? 🕵️
This is the issue SaaS companies face with IT sustainability. 🌱
In the latest Green IO episode I (Gaël Duez) sat down with Tereze Gaile to get insights from Salesforce’s approach. Tereze is the lead author of the “Sustainability Guide for Salesforce Technology”. We also partnered in this episode with Niklas Sundberg, author of “Sustainable IT Playbook for Technology Leaders” and a pillar of sustainableit.org to take a step back on Salesforce’s feedback and get a broader context.
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Sep 4, 2023
#23 Greenwashing and friends with Harriet Kingaby and Mathieu Jahnich
Our regular Green IO host Gaël Duez meets Harriet Kingaby and Mathieu Jahnich to get the low-down on greenwashing, and, more importantly, how to avoid it.
Mathieu Jahnich is a consultant and researcher, and also a lecturer at Sciences Po, Paris, where he teaches responsible communication & marketing on several Masters programs. Harriet Kingaby is a strategic communications expert who focuses on responsible marketing and communications at the intersection of advertising, human rights and climate change.
Together they cover multiple questions: How do you define greenwashing? How can companies effectively talk about their CSR actions and their move towards sustainability without falling into the trap of greenwashing? ...
With concrete examples of best practice, and real-life case scenarios, Harriet and Mathieu also touch on the legal landscape, and the current and forthcoming changes that all businesses must be aware of.
Don’t want to fall into the greenwashing trap? Listen in to find out more.
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Sep 1, 2023
#0 - Welcome to Green IO Season 2 by Gaël Duez
Hello everyone, welcome to Green IO the podcast for responsible technologists building a greener digital world, one byte at a time.
Why this podcast? What to expect in Season 2? Take a 5 minutes walk-through with our Host Gaël Duez 🎙️
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Jul 20, 2023
#22 Impact podcasters in Tech with Perrine Tanguy and Tristan Nitot
A special (northern hemisphere) summer one! An uncut, raw, spontaneous episode where Perrine, Tristan and Gaël discuss about podcasting in Sustainability, in Tech and in general! 🎙️
Enjoy it at the beach, in the moutains or in front of a warm fire if this is winter time for you 🎧
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Jun 27, 2023
#21 Greening Software 101 with Anne Currie & Arne Tarara
Are you ready to take a closer look at the environmental impacts of our code and join the movement towards green coding? What actions can we take to minimize the harmful effects of software development on our environment from an engineer stance as well as at company level?
That’s what we discussed in this episode on Green Software!
Join Gaël Duez to meet : Arne Tarara, CEO of Green Coding Berlin in Berlin & Anne Currie in London, writer of the much looked forward O’Reilly book “Building Green Software”.
➡️ Arne and Anne shared their insights on green computing practices. We tackled various topics related to :
- green software, including grass-root efforts,
- integrating sustainability in training,
- tools for reducing environmental footprints.
✅ Don't miss this episode to explore "Green Software" and gain valuable insights on the tech industry's environmental landscape and web sustainability.
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Jun 5, 2023
#20 E-waste: friend or foe in a circular economy with Jacqueline Mukarukundo and Vanessa Forti
What about the 53.6 million metric tons of e-waste generated worldwide ? Is it time for a global commitment to tackle the alarming 82% of e-waste that remains unrecycled? And how can we, as responsible individuals and global citizens, take action to address this critical issue?
That’s what we discussed in this episode on e-waste !
Join Gaël Duez to meet : Jacqueline Mukarukundo, co-founder of Wastezon in Rwanda and Vanessa Forti, Associate Programme Officer at UNITAR.
➡️ Jacqueline and Vanessa shared their insights on the complexities of e-waste and the steps needed for a more sustainable future.
✅ Don't miss this episode if you want to explore e-waste and gain valuable insights on creating a more sustainable future.
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May 15, 2023
#19 Worst Unsustainable Designs with Sandy Dähnert and Michael Anderson
What would be the three most harmful website design practices ? What are the actions that you can’t take without the client’s approval ? How could you convince your boss or customers on this sustainable journey ?
That’s what we discuss in this episode on sustainable design !
Join Gaël Duez to meet : Michael Anderson, Frontend Web Developer at Initiva AB & Founder of Sustainable WWW in Sweden and Sandy Dähnert, experienced designer and host of the Green the Web podcast in Germany.
➡️ Sandy and Michael shared their insights on how to face the challenges regarding creating sustainable websites through the lens of Green IT.
✅ Don't miss this episode if you want to learn practical advice on how to create sustainable websites and how to convince your clients of the importance of sustainability in website design.
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Apr 25, 2023
#18 Deploying Sustainable IT under market pressure with Drew Engelson and Dominique Buinier
Can you deploy an impactful Sustainable IT strategy under market pressures? What if metrics are not there? What if your customers do not care? ..
To get feedback on these questions, join Gaël Duez to meet two great leaders : Drew Engelson, Starbuck’s Director of Engineering in Seattle and Dominique Buinier, OCTO's Chief Operating Officer and Chief Sustainability Officer in Paris.
✅ Yes, raising awareness and training teams is key. No eco-design is not more expensive. Yes, many side-benefits can be leveraged on the road to sustainability.
➡️ Dominique and Drew gratefully shared their experiences and their views on the do and the don't when implementing sustainability in a Tech company.
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Apr 11, 2023
#17 Tech Sustainability in Singapore with Ian Chew & Thibaut Meurgue-Guyard
Ready to explore the digital sustainability landscape of Singapore?
Travel there with Gaël Duez to meet Thibaut, the local representative of both the Climat fresk and the Digital Collage in Singapore and Ian, founder of Greenie web.
➡️ Join us for an insightful discussion as we delve into the Singaporean tech ecosystem and its sustainability landscape.
✅ Our guests share their views on the evolving domain of digital sustainability, achievements, and trends in IT sustainability in Singapore and in South-East Asia, as well as their perspectives on the main environmental crises.
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Apr 3, 2023
#16 Datacenter Sustainability with Stanislava Borisova and Benoit Petit
What if we unveiled the often overlooked environmental impact of data centers together ?
Travel with Gaël Duez to Sweden to meet Life Cycle Management expert Stanislava and to France to meet Benoît, co-founder of Hubblo and NGO Boavizta who works on impact evaluation and energy/material efficiency for businesses.
Join us for an eye-opening episode on how data centers can play a crucial role in building a sustainable digital future.
Together, we explore:
✅ The definition of data centers and their various types, including hyperscalers, enterprise data centers, and colocation data centers.
✅ Top tips and insights on how to make your data center operations more eco-friendly and reduce energy consumption.
✅ The automation and democratization of impact evaluation.
✅ The controversial topic of... cloud!
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Mar 21, 2023
#15 Data Tsunami with Gerry Mc Govern and Katie Singer
Did you know that 81% of a laptop's lifetime energy use will be consumed before its end-user turns it on for the first time ? 🤯
Gaël Duez travels to New Mexico, USA and Dublin to meet Katie Singer - acclaimed author of “A silent electronic spring", who has published many articles and a book about technology's impacts on nature and human health - and Gerry Mc Govern - well-known author of “World Wide Waste” - for an episode about the dark truth of the data tsunami and its catastrophic environmental effects. 🌍
Join us for a mind-blowing episode where we explore the dire need for sustainable data practices, and how we can take action to build a better future for our planet.
Together, we discussed :
✅ The high energy consumption involved in the production, consumption, and disposal of digital devices and data
✅ The relationship between efficiency in technology and its negative impact on the environment
✅ The importance of reducing waste as the primary strategy for mitigating the environmental impact of digital technology
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Mar 7, 2023
#14 Digital Cleanup Day with Ingrid Nielsen and Olivier Vergeynst
In this episode, we went across the world for Digital Cleanup Day. Our first guest, Ingrid Nielsen is based in Tallinn, Estonia and she has been working with Let's Do It World NGO for the last years in different capacities, as the head of Global marketing and communication, running initiatives regarding digital waste and other projects. “Let’s do it world” is the mother NGO of both World Cleanup Day - 50 millions participants worldwide and counting- and its digital offspring which is the Digital Cleanup day.
Our second guest, Oliver Vergeynst is based in Brussels, Belgium and he is the Director of the Belgian Institute for Sustainable IT since 2020. Together with the French and the Swiss institutes, they spearhead a lot of the research on Digital Sustainability while grouping both academics and professionals.
We dive deep into the thought process behind digital cleanup day, how to get buy-in for digital cleanup, how best to do digital cleanup, and who are the targets of this a…
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Feb 20, 2023
#13 - Lucile Vannier - Being the voice of IT Sustainability in a large corporation
In this episode, Gaël Duez stayed home in France to discuss gender equity in IT and building sustainability teams in large companies. His guests Lucille Vannier is one of the strongest voices in the French IT sector for gender equality. She is also the Strategy Deputy Director of the Sustainable IT Institute, which is the academic body spearheading most of the research in France on Digital Sustainability.
She provides serious advice for anybody who wants to follow her lead in advocating for a sustainable and equitable future in the IT space, with lots of resources to check out too! 🤓
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Feb 8, 2023
#12 Vineeta Greenwood and Gavin Shinfield - Digital Sustainability: The view from Agencyland
In this episode, Gaël Duez went to Argentina (or did he?) to discuss digital agencies. Guests Vineeta Greenwood and Gavin Shinfield share a passion for communicating sustainability in ways that their clients can connect to. Veterans of the B-Corp movement, they also prize collaboration and honesty, two keys to their success, and indeed our collective success in reaching our sustainability goals. Gaël invites them to play a short game that leads to long and meaningful answers … stay tuned 🤓
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Jan 25, 2023
#11 - Elin Hauge and Héloïse Nonne - How to tackle AI true environmental cost?
In this episode, Gaël Duez went to both Oslo and Paris. Elin Hauge and Heloise Nonne never met before but still they have a lot in common. Same huge experience in AI and Data management … and more important - the very reason you will enjoy having them on the show - same despise for buzzwords and lazy short-cutting thinking. A candid discussion where you can expect metaverse buzz being slashed and rule of three providing more answers than deep learning 😮
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Oct 31, 2022
#10 - Sören Enholm - How to navigate toward more sustainable digital equipment?
In this episode, we went to Stockhölm to meet Sören Enholm, TCO Certified CEO 🏷️. For 30 years, TCO has been assessing IT products reaching a whopping 10'000 references today 🤯. We discussed the environmental footprint of digital devices, natural and urban mining, how to secure a qualitative certification process, the current momentum in Digital Sustainability and much more.
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Oct 11, 2022
#9 - Tim Frick - Confessions from a trailblazer in Sustainable Design
In this episode, we went to Chicago to meet a legend: Tim Frick 🧙. The author of “Designing for Sustainability” and a relentless advocate of the B Corp movement told us about being a trailblazer in Digital Sustainability 🌱 for more than a decade. He also took the challenge to answer 10 questions on Sustainable Design in 20 minutes + an 11th “low-ball” one ☑️ . Eventually, we discussed how his company created an “impact business model” because “sustainable design can be a really broad topic” covering all the way to business model through Corporate Digital Responsibility principles and the B Corp labellisation 🏷️
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Sep 26, 2022
#8 - Anne Faubry and Tom Jarrett - Sustainable Design from the trenches
In this episode, we took a virtual Eurostar between Paris and London and met Anne Faubry, a Board Member of Ethical Designers ⚖️, and Tom Jarrett, a seasoned designer involved in the ClimateActionTech community where he designed its Branch online magazine 📰. Both are recognized thought leaders in the Sustainable Design field because they implement Sustainability from the trenches 👩💻. Based on their hands-on experience, we discussed demand-responsive design, Anne's guide to digital eco-design and how designers juggle today between many requirements from accessibility to security and sustainability 🤹.
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Sep 14, 2022
#7.b - Cameron Casher and Benjamin Davy - Cloud Sustainability beyond carbon emission
In this episode, we stay in Denver and Montpellier with Cameron Casher, Clean Tech Strategist at ThoughtWorks, and Benjamin Davy, Sustainability Director at Teads. Being both hands-on engineers 👨💻 and well-known voices in Cloud Sustainability 🌱, we decided to have this extra episode to go "beyond carbon" and talk about hardware, water consumption, recycling and resources exhaustion. The next challenges for any responsible technologists using Cloud services.
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Sep 5, 2022
#7.a - Cameron Casher and Benjamin Davy - Measuring the Carbon Footprint of Cloud computing from CCF to AWS, Azure and GCP sustainability dashboards
In this episode, we go to both Denver and Montpellier to meet Cameron Casher, Clean Tech Strategist at ThoughWorks, and Benjamin Davy, Sustainability Director at Teads. Being both hands-on engineers 👨💻 and well-known voices in Cloud Sustainability 🌱, they were the perfect match to assess the Sustainability dashboards provided by AWS, GCP and Azure as well as pro and con of Cloud Carbon Footprint, the open-source tool. Which one can truly help responsible technologists to assess 📏 their GHG emissions ?
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Aug 24, 2022
#6 - David Mytton - Bringing reliable and transparent information to Green IT
In this episode, we go to London and meet David Mytton the co-founder and CEO of Console and also an academic doing his PhD on sustainable computing in Oxford University 🎓. All David’s work follow a consistent thread that could be described as “Effective Sustainability requires reliable and transparent information”. Under this angle, we discussed the environmental impact of datacenters and why the estimates vary so much, the accuracy of carbon footprint calculators for websites as well as the choice of language and CI/CD when we aim to develop greener code 👩💻.
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Jul 18, 2022
#4.b - Chris Adams - An overview of initiatives and latest trends in Digital Sustainability
In our April’s episode, we went to Berlin and meet Chris Adams, an "environmentally focussed tech generalist" as he likes to describe himself. From the early days of Rail Europe to the Green Web Foundation of which he is the executive director, Chris has always been passionate about environmental topics. In the Digital Sustainability field, Chris is such an old-timer that we decided to split our interview in two parts!
In this second part, we discussed Digital Sustainability in general, past trends as well as expected developments. Chris also shared with us a mountain of references and people to follow in order to learn more about how to green the Web and beyond.
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Jun 29, 2022
#5 - Hannah Smith - Greening WordPress: it's not all black and white
For this episode we went to South England, near Exmoor national park, to meet Hannah Smith aka hanopcan. She is one of the most vocal sustainability advocates in the WordPress community as as in many others from Climate Action Tech to the Green Web Foundation. She will blow your mind with her pragmatic and efficient approach and will help you make almost 40% of all the words websites greener.
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Jun 7, 2022
#4.a - Chris Adams - A fossil-free internet by 2030? How to deploy Green Hosting and Cloud Sustainability to achieve it?
In our May’s episode, we went to Berlin and meet Chris Adams, an "environmentally focussed tech generalist" as he likes to describe himself. From the early days of Rail Europe to the Green Web Foundation of which he is the executive director, Chris has always been passionate about environmental topics. In the Digital Sustainability field, Chris is such an old-timer that we decided to split our interview in two parts!
In this first part, after taking the time to know Chris a bit better and how he burnt 20M$ in VC, we discussed at length about Green Hosting and Cloud Sustainability. And we deep dived in a step by step approach to green ops greatly helped by the questions coming from the Tech community following Green I/O. A warm thank you to them.
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May 2, 2022
#3 - Elisabeth Mouchy - From hackathon to sprints: how to reduce the carbon footprint of a dating app
In this episode, we went to Paris and met Elisabeth Mouchy. In 2013, Elisabeth co-founded Delighted, the Spotify for art in San Francisco. Now, she is now Product Director at Meetic, the multi-awarded dating service. She is super open to provide feedback and insights on Digital Sustainability, a topic she has helped ramp-up at Meetic. We will see how to make sustainable the move toward greener product management. And the way Meetic has tackled painpoints ranging from "Where do I start" to "How to avoid the end-of-the-world versus end-of-the-month dilemna?".
This episode has benefited from the support of a dozen of digital product experts across Europe. A warm thank you to them.
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Mar 30, 2022
#2 - Sandra Sydow - Using collective intelligence to raise awareness
For the second episode of Green I/O, I met Sandra Sydow. She is a natural-born European: borned French, having studied in Sweden, worked in Germany where she married and now living in the UK for almost 10 years.
Sandra has an impeccable track record at PHD as a Managing Partner where she thrived making complicated things easy to understand in digital marketing and working for global brands like Airbus, HP or Expedia. 2 years ago, she decided to dedicate her communication and pedagogical skills to fight climate change. She co-founded the climate pitch and became a Board member at the Digital Collage.
In this episode, we did not deep dive into a specific area like Green Hosting or Green AI but we focused on the most important asset in any Digital Tech company: humans! And the challenges we face when it comes to raising awareness about the increasing ecological footprint of our digital world. And transform it into concrete actions.
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Mar 3, 2022
#1 - Fershad Irani - Using website performance to green the web
For the first episode of Green I/O, I interviewed Fershad Irani a web performance expert and restless advocate for a low carbon web in his newsletter "Optimized".
He helps environmentally conscious companies ensure their websites are fast, optimised for performance, and have a low carbon impact. Based in Taipei after graduating in Sydney, Fershad also contributes to open-source projects like OpenSpaceData and is an active member of the climateaction.tech community, where I discovered his work. He has recently launched 'Are my third parties green?' a much-needed tool to give some visibility to the sustainability of third-party requests on the web.
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