My absolute superstar friend Natalie Fougere joins me on this episode and we go head to head about our completely different interests and preferences as mental health professionals—aka, she talks about how much she hates therapy 😂. But also the incredible, amazing things she’s been able to pursue in community-based work after she made a brave decision to leave a position of security. We talk about the disgusting burnout of therapists/counsellors during the pandemy and explore the challenges (& awesome things) happening at the micro- and macro-level of mental health care.
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