Creating Change In An Established Church | #010
Play • 1 hr 25 min
When you are a leader, change is hard. When you are a young leader in an older established church, change is really hard. We talk about it.

We also talk about healthy living as a pastors and discuss the elephant in the room: weight loss. We also discuss Pence’s RNC speech and how he remixed a passage in Hebrews.

We close the show answering the controversial question, “Does pineapple belong on pizza?”


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