All good therapists are in therapy. But were you ever curious about what treatment looks like for us? In this episode of From the Ashes we bring back Jeff Grossman to talk about how we stay on top of our own mental health. We'll share some stories from the American Group Psychotherapy Association and the Center for Group Studies that highlight the work that we do to stay on top of our game. From fighting with famous group leaders to having air sex Jeff and I will be pulling back the curtain on some of the weird and wonderful experiences we've had in the pursuit of excellence.