"Like Wonga.com on steroids".
The 56th episode The Scottish Independence Podcast is the second of the presentation-type podcasts that I've put out this week, next time we'll get back to the interviews.
This time the presentation comes from Business for Scotland and features former guest on the podcast Ivan McKee, who I'm sure you've been seeing on TV recently, and Michelle Thomson.
The presentation is called The Economic Case for Independence, and that quote with Wonga.com at the start was not referring to Scotland's prospects.
It's quite a long episode so you might want to divide your listening into sections.
Hope you enjoy.