Crappy to Happy
Crappy to Happy
Nov 1, 2020
Living shamelessly with Mich and Zara from Shameless
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Cass Dunn talks to Michelle Andrews and Zara McDonald, co-hosts of the Shameless podcast about navigating the chaos and magic of being in your 20s. They discuss how they've handled their extraordinary success (and accompanying criticism), the smart conversations that we can have about 'dumb stuff', and the importance of backing yourself to achieve your goals.

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