Apr 23, 2020
How do we avoid the dreaded second (third or fourth) coronavirus wave?
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Whichever way you look at it, coronavirus is going to be with us for quite a while.

Elimination seems unlikely and overseas it’s infecting people in large numbers.

While cases remain low, there's always the risk of it reappearing.

So how do we avoid getting smashed by waves of coronavirus again and again and again?

On today's show:

* How do we make sure that our health system and economy doesn't get smashed every time there's a coronavirus wave?

* In a previous episode, Norman mentioned that coronavirus might come back in two or four years. Where would it go in between?

* Why do people often suffer more from COVID-19 in the second week?

And we are joined by two time Archibald Prize winner Del Kathryn Barton! She's here to talk about the Together In Art Kids project — an exhibition featuring kids' artwork about the coronavirus.

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How to Save a Planet
How to Save a Planet
Presenting: Drilled
Decades ago, the oil company Exxon made a decision that drastically changed our country’s response to climate change. At the time, the company’s scientists were warning about global warming and Exxon was investing in the research and development of renewable energy technologies. But instead of going down the path of pursuing renewables, a small group of powerful people decided to double down on fossil fuels. Today, we’re sharing the story of this inflection point, as told on the first season of the podcast Drilled. If you like what you hear, find Drilled in your favorite podcast app, or at Want more?  Read this article in Scientific American: Exxon Knew about Climate Change almost 40 years ago, and see more reporting on the topic on Twitter with the hashtag #ExxonKnew  Listen to the rest of the first season of Drilled. Also, check out the current season of Drilled. In the latest season, reporter and host Amy Westervelt is telling the story of a decades-long case between Chevron and an Indigenous group in Ecuador. It's a wild story with a lot of twists and turns that ultimately highlights just how far oil companies are willing to go to avoid accountability. Our podcast now has a patron saint Allow us to introduce you to Eunice Newton Foote, the scientist who discovered that adding carbon dioxide to the atmosphere would cause planetary warming. And she discovered this in 1856!! Check out this paper she published 164 years ago. She tried to warn us! #VoteClimate And lastly, the election ends in just a few days. Besides voting, you can still get involved at a local level. We recommend checking out Lead Locally — an organization whose mission is electing community leaders who are dedicated to stopping big fossil fuel projects & protecting our climate. They have info on the slate of local candidates they are supporting this election and you can even sign up to phone or text bank for them.
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