Jun 9, 2020
NZ has eliminated COVID. Is Australia on track to do it too?
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New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says she "did a little dance" when she found out her country finally had no more active cases of coronavirus.

It means that the country is able to pretty much roll back most internal restrictions, meaning New Zealanders can now do what they want.

So how far away is Australia from similar achievements?

On today's show:

* If NZ can be coronavirus free, is Australia far away?

* For those who did attend the protests on Saturday, when is a good time to get tested?

* My housemate emits long unguarded belches. Is there any COVID-19 risk?

And we're starting a new segment where we'll have a look at a country to see how it's going, and what's been happening with COVID-19. Today we're looking at Italy.
Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny
Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny
Policy Forum
Can Australia close the gap?
On this Democracy Sausage Extra, we talk to Indigenous experts Professor Ian Anderson AO and Dr Virginia Marshall about the new National Agreement on Closing the Gap, the importance of shared decision-making, and whether Australia is taking meaningful steps towards genuine reconciliation. Will the commitment of governments to sharing decision-making with Indigenous Australians through the new National Agreement on Closing the Gap be a turning point for Indigenous health and wellbeing? What does this agreement mean for the broader reconciliation agenda? And with little for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities in the recent Federal Budget, will governments ensure progress is supported financially in the wake of the COVID-19 crisis? On this Democracy Sausage Extra, we’re joined by Dr Virginia Marshall, the Inaugural Indigenous Postdoctoral Fellow at the Australian National University (ANU), and Professor Ian Anderson AO, former Indigenous health practitioner, senior public servant, and now Deputy Vice-Chancellor (Student and University Experience) at ANU. Ian Anderson AO is Deputy Vice-Chancellor (Student and University Experience) at The Australian National University. Before that, he spent three years leading Closing the Gap negotiations on behalf of the Australian government. Ian is a Palawa man from the northwest coast of Tasmania. Virginia Marshall is the Inaugural Indigenous Postdoctoral Fellow with The Australian National University’s School of Regulation and Global Governance (RegNet) and the Fenner School of Environment and Society. She is a Wiradjuri Nyemba woman from New South Wales. Martyn Pearce is a presenter for Policy Forum Pod and the Editor of Policy Forum. Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We’d love to hear your feedback for this podcast series! Send in your questions, comments, or suggestions for future episodes to You can also Tweet us @APPSPolicyForum or join us on the Facebook group. This podcast is produced in partnership with The Australian National University.   See for privacy and opt-out information.
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